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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Tue 04 Aug 2020, 10:52 pm

We have our 20 as Fulham take the playoff spot and we welcome back West Brom, Fulham and, most importantly to the nation (apparently) Leeds.

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Post by Duty281 on Thu 20 Aug 2020, 4:27 pm

Opening day fixtures released:

Crystal Palace v Southampton (12 Sep)
Fulham v Arsenal (12 Sep)
Liverpool v Leeds United (12 Sep)
Tottenham Hotspur v Everton (12 Sep)
West Bromwich Albion v Leicester City (12 Sep)
West Ham United v Newcastle United (12 Sep)
Brighton v Chelsea (14 Sep)
Sheffield United v Wolves (14 Sep)
Burnley v Manchester United (later date)
Manchester City v Aston Villa (later date)

The two Manchester clubs have their opening fixtures postponed due to their involvement in European competition.

I make Liverpool favourites to win the league again, but interestingly enough the bookmakers have City as the even money favourites, with Liverpool out at 7/4. Man United, who just came off one of their worst PL seasons in terms of points + wins if not finishing place, are laughably priced as 8/1 third favourites.

Hopes for the season:

1) Most importantly, Covid-19 fades away, no disruption to the season and we get back to crowds attending games by the end of the season. Even if it's just small crowds, filling up 25% of the ground (no jokes about certain clubs, please!).
2) Better quality. Last season was the worst PL season in terms of quality since Leicester won the league. The teams from about 15th-20th last season were garbage in terms of quality and entertainment value. Hopefully, West Brom and Fulham and Leeds will add value to the division.
3) Minimal VAR failures. And zero goal-line tech failures!
4) Leeds get relegated. Here's hoping.
5) A close title race would be nice, but I think Liverpool win it again by 10+ points.

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Post by Soul Requiem on Thu 20 Aug 2020, 4:30 pm

Duty281 wrote:

I make Liverpool favourites to win the league again, but interestingly enough the bookmakers have City as the even money favourites, with Liverpool out at 7/4. Man United, who just came off one of their worst PL seasons in terms of points + wins if not finishing place, are laughably priced as 8/1 third favourites.


What is laughable about the third placed form team being priced at 8/1, seems reasonable to me.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Fri 21 Aug 2020, 2:50 pm

Liverpool seem a good price considering the rest they’ve had and the quality they showed. Easier end of season and missing all the pressure of the Europe stuff this summer.

We’ve got such a horrible fixture list to start with that any hopes of having a quiet year are gone, it’ll be another relegation battle.

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Post by Duty281 on Thu 27 Aug 2020, 12:07 pm

I see, since I wrote the above, that United have drifted to 16/1 to win the league, which is getting closer to fairness. Would put Manchester United out at around 33/1 to win the league, personally. They're a long way behind City/Liverpool, and have probably slipped behind Chelsea during the off-season. Would be surprised to see United placed higher than 4th this year, they could struggle to make even that if Tottenham come good again.

At the other end of the table, difficult to see Fulham or West Brom doing anything of note. But there's so many poor teams in the bottom half of the table that one or both could be reprieved.

In good news, there'll be no more drinks breaks and it's back to three substitutions, not five. Increased use of VAR pitchside monitors too.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/aug/06/premier-league-clubs-reject-chance-to-continue-with-five-substitutions

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Post by Duty281 on Sat 29 Aug 2020, 6:41 pm

Arsenal win the community shield on penalties, in the same month they won the FA Cup.

The one year the FA could have skipped the 'curtain-raiser'.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sat 29 Aug 2020, 7:59 pm

Duty281 wrote:Arsenal win the community shield on penalties, which gives them huge #momentum thanks to Arteta’s #project. This in the same month they won the FA Cup, building on the habit of #wins that will give them huge #confidence.

The one year the FA could have skipped the 'curtain-raiser'.

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Post by Duty281 on Sat 29 Aug 2020, 11:55 pm

Well they've got two trophies in one month, so I reckon they're literally #unstoppable now.

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Post by Duty281 on Wed 09 Sep 2020, 7:51 pm

So the season starts on Saturday, predictions from 1-20:

Spoiler:

1 - Liverpool
2 - Man City
3 - Chelsea
4 - Tottenham
5 - Man Utd
6 - Everton
7 - Leicester
8 - Wolves
9 - Arsenal
10 - Southampton
11 - Palace
12 - Leeds
13 - Newcastle
14 - Aston Villa
15 - Sheffield United
16 - Burnley
17 - West Ham
18 - West Brom
19 - Brighton
20 - Fulham

Still think Liverpool will comfortably win the league, and wouldn't be surprised to see Chelsea pip City to second. The final top four spot will be very tightly contested, and it's imperative for Tottenham that Kane and Son stay fit and in good form. Relegation is tough to call - I think if any team I've listed from 13 down were relegated, I wouldn't be surprised about it.

Should be quite a decent season. A number of clubs have made some exciting signings, and seeing the likes of Werner, Havertz, Allan, Rodriguez, and Van de Beek in the PL will be excellent. Here's hoping it stays Covid-free.

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Post by daraghj82 on Thu 10 Sep 2020, 9:53 am



looking forward to the new season, hoping leeds are comfortably mid table , Chelsea might push city and Liverpool closer as they've made some good signings

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Post by westisbest on Sat 12 Sep 2020, 8:23 am

1, Man City
2, Liverpool
3, Chelsea
4, Man Utd
5, Arsenal
6, Spurs
7, Leicester
8, Wolves
9, Everton
10, Saints
11, Sheffield Utd
12, Palace
13, Villa
14, Newcastle
15, Leeds
16, West Ham
17, Burnley
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18, Brighton
19,Fulham
20, Baggies

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Post by Just John on Sat 12 Sep 2020, 8:59 am

I think the Burnley bubble with burst this year. Probably Burnley, WBA and Fulham.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sat 12 Sep 2020, 1:35 pm

I can’t remember what I predicted but I’m sure I had Liverpool champions, same top four as last year and Fulham, West Ham and West Brom to go down.

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Post by Duty281 on Sat 12 Sep 2020, 6:01 pm

Neither team wants to defend competently at Anfield, 2-2 after 30 minutes.

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Post by Duty281 on Sat 12 Sep 2020, 7:25 pm

Fun game, finished 4-3 to the champions because Leeds conceded two dumb penalties.

Klopp presumably won't be happy about the terrible defending from his side.

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Post by Just John on Sat 12 Sep 2020, 9:46 pm

Routine win at West Ham for the Toon. Hammers are woeful

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Post by Duty281 on Sun 13 Sep 2020, 2:13 pm

I enjoyed watching Andy Carroll barrel into everyone. Hope Southgate was watching.

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Post by Beer on Tue 15 Sep 2020, 2:54 pm

Duty281 wrote:I enjoyed watching Andy Carroll barrel into everyone. Hope Southgate was watching.

Why? Is he looking for a striking coach?

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Post by Duty281 on Sat 19 Sep 2020, 7:30 pm

Atrocious performance from Manchester United this evening, as they got torn apart by Palace at home. They'll need more than Sancho to bolster their team.

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Post by Jeff Navarro on Sun 20 Sep 2020, 7:38 pm

Chelsea 0-2 Liverpool. Christensen sent off just before half time for rugby tackling Mane. Mane scored twice, latter after another horror show from Kepa - who’s arguably the worst goalkeeper I’ve ever seen.

Chelsea might have signed every attacking player going, but without a proper goalkeeper and defence they’ll achieve nothing.

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Post by Duty281 Yesterday at 6:01 pm

Didn't think there'd be anything more dramatic than United's 100th minute winner this weekend, but West Brom are 3-0 up against Chelsea after 28 minutes. Erm

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Post by Jeff Navarro Yesterday at 6:08 pm

I think it’s ridiculous that Lampard thought a 36 year old Thiago Silva was the solution to that dreadful defence. I saw Silva in his prime at AC Milan and he long since diminished from that standard. Wasting £61m on Havertz was ludicrous, should’ve signed an elite CB.

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Post by Duty281 Yesterday at 7:45 pm

Chelsea got it back to 3-3 in the end. Work to do for Frank.

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Post by JDizzle Yesterday at 11:27 pm

Think there could be a lot of results like that for Chelsea this year! Hopefully the new GK and Chilwell could make a difference but a genuine DM to balance the midfield is still needed.

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