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Post by rugby racing and beer on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 8:05 pm

Another game about to kick off, worth making a thread.

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Post by rugby racing and beer on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 8:06 pm

Prediction: Ireland by 3.

Tasty game ahead.

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Post by rugby racing and beer on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 8:16 pm

Great start by France. Little Dupont in with the opening score. Game on.

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Post by rugby racing and beer on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 8:17 pm

Oh wow, horror show from France. Absolute self destruct button.

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Post by rugby racing and beer on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 8:19 pm

Tough, tough call from Barnes on Ireland there. That's a penalty try to my mind.

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Post by Brendan on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 8:24 pm

The breakdown is very vicious.

Two teams up for it

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Post by rugby racing and beer on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 8:26 pm

A lovely technical decision there that will set Iirhs hearts all a-flutter: a maul held up, but driven over the line at the last moment to ensure Ireland keep possession and win the scrum v.

Champagne rugby in the city of love...

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Post by rugby racing and beer on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 8:27 pm

French physicality looks impressive. Ireland will have to do more than just offer a blunt battering ram today if they want to take the title.

Can't believe this Irish team could win the 6Ns tbh. It's not been a vintage year. France have been the best team but...wow...that Scotland game.

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Post by Scottrf on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 8:28 pm

Why does JD keep talking about going for the post?

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 8:28 pm

Scottrf wrote:Why does JD keep talking about going for the post?

And in the last game. And now moore. Strange. They cant keep up with the laws.

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Post by Scottrf on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 8:29 pm

Sorry I meant Moore. But yes previous games too.


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Post by rugby racing and beer on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 8:29 pm

Nice score. Ireland level it up and just make the yellow card pay.

Should have been a penalty try tbh, Barnes has done the Irish dirty with that one.

Game on once more.

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Post by rugby racing and beer on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 8:30 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:
Scottrf wrote:Why does JD keep talking about going for the post?

And in the last game. And now moore. Strange. They cant keep up with the laws.

Oof, this is embarrassing.

They're playing under the old laws because...wait for it...this tournament started back in February.

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Post by rugby racing and beer on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 8:31 pm

Shocking French play at times already. The sublime and the crud. Sacrebleu...

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Post by rugby racing and beer on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 8:33 pm

Dupont is one of the few NH players where you can reasonably make the claim that they're the best player in their position in the world, fair play. World class talent.

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Post by Scottrf on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 8:34 pm

rugby racing and beer wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:
Scottrf wrote:Why does JD keep talking about going for the post?

And in the last game. And now moore. Strange. They cant keep up with the laws.

Oof, this is embarrassing.

They're playing under the old laws because...wait for it...this tournament started back in February.
I’m sorry, what crap. It’s immediate not based on when a competition starts.

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Post by rugby racing and beer on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 8:36 pm

Scottrf wrote:
rugby racing and beer wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:
Scottrf wrote:Why does JD keep talking about going for the post?

And in the last game. And now moore. Strange. They cant keep up with the laws.

Oof, this is embarrassing.

They're playing under the old laws because...wait for it...this tournament started back in February.
I’m sorry, what crap. It’s immediate not based on when a competition starts.

Wrong. Can't say any more than that. You're plain and simply wrong.

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 8:38 pm

As it stand ireland on 19 points according to the bbc...

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Post by Duty281 on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 8:41 pm

What a lovely try. Really well worked and great refereeing to keep the advantage going.

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Post by rugby racing and beer on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 8:42 pm

Oof, Barnes giving a penalty try to France. Controversial stuff.

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Post by Scottrf on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 8:44 pm

rugby racing and beer wrote:Wrong. Can't say any more than that. You're plain and simply wrong.
Prove it?

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Post by rugby racing and beer on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 8:56 pm

Brave by Ireland. Shades of the QF v NZ where they turned down points for the corner. Too early to be chasing the game...

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Post by rugby racing and beer on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 8:59 pm

Yep, brave but stupid. Should have taken the kick. 1 point behind going in to half time would be a good result.

France look good. Can't see Ireland doing this. Or maybe...who knows, it's so close. Poor call with that kick though. Shows a lack of leadership.

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Post by Brendan on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 9:04 pm

Should have gone for the sticks

Build the score.

We will see if France keep up this level of aggression or if they will start to give away more penalties.

Great game to finish on though.

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Post by rugby racing and beer on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 9:10 pm

France tired dramatically against Wales in the second half last week. If Ireland play their territory game and box clever they could squeeze the 7+ point win out of this game but decisions like that at the end won't help.

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Post by rugby racing and beer on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 9:16 pm

Fair play, that's an absolutely gorgeous try. Loose kick to backfield and France score an absolute magical try on the counter. Vintage France.

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Post by Heaf on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 9:17 pm

Interesting point by MJ in the break re the France YC - if the Irish player knocked the ball forwards before the French player batted it out shouldn't it have been a scrum France as the knock-on came before the penalty?

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 9:17 pm

Wish we could have a good ref like Barnes, the guy is class. Irish hate now incoming....

Pretty good play by France. Nothing special, simple game plan, very effective. I think France play how Pivac wants Wales to play but France actually look good.

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Post by rugby racing and beer on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 9:17 pm

Heaf wrote:Interesting point by MJ in the break re the France YC - if the Irish player knocked the ball forwards before the French player batted it out shouldn't it have been a scrum France as the knock-on came before the penalty?

No, a penalty overrules a knock on, particularly so for deliberate foul play.

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Post by rugby racing and beer on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 9:19 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:Wish we could have a good ref like Barnes, the guy is class. Irish hate now incoming....

Pretty good play by France. Nothing special, simple game plan, very effective. I think France play how Pivac wants Wales to play but France actually look good.

You think? Interesting. Could have sworn I said exactly that last week... Wink

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Post by Heaf on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 9:19 pm

Only for foul play surely - and I thought that meant stuff like punching someone?

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 9:19 pm

Can France win the tournament if they score another try?

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Post by rugby racing and beer on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 9:20 pm

That decision to turn down the kick in front of the posts is looking worse and worse by the minute for France. The old Robshaw curse has clearly got its hooks in - "let's do what we did against NZ to prove we aren't chokers and to rid the ghosts and...oh dear, oh no, wait we're losing sight of the other team...". Bad decision.

France now 12 points up with 3 tries on the board. Is it out of the question that they could tear it up and end up winning the title as they deserve to?

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 9:21 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:Can France win the tournament if they score another try?

Have to win by 31 and score 4 tries.


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Post by rugby racing and beer on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 9:22 pm

Yeah I think Ireland a f'ing this up. Can't deal with the French power.

If France get a 4th try before the final quarter we have an interesting conclusion to this game.

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 9:23 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Can France win the tournament if they score another try?

Have to win by 32 and score 4 tries.

Ah okay, quite a task for France. So the fact they won against England doesn’t come into it?

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Post by Heaf on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 9:25 pm

Nope - points difference first I think then tries scored

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Post by Brendan on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 9:25 pm

rugby racing and beer wrote:
Heaf wrote:Interesting point by MJ in the break re the France YC - if the Irish player knocked the ball forwards before the French player batted it out shouldn't it have been a scrum France as the knock-on came before the penalty?

No, a penalty overrules a knock on, particularly so for deliberate foul play.

It is only a knock on if the Irish player doesn't re-gather, the dileberate play by the French player made it impossible illegally.  If he had done it legally then the conversation would have been different.

Or that is how I understand it

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Post by rugby racing and beer on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 9:25 pm

Momentum was with France there. Good kick, but I do think the corner was the better option.

Game is slipping away from Ireland though, absolutely. Not sure they can deal with the French counter attack even if they do get field position and control of the ball.

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Post by Scottrf on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 9:27 pm

Brendan wrote:
rugby racing and beer wrote:
Heaf wrote:Interesting point by MJ in the break re the France YC - if the Irish player knocked the ball forwards before the French player batted it out shouldn't it have been a scrum France as the knock-on came before the penalty?

No, a penalty overrules a knock on, particularly so for deliberate foul play.

It is only a knock on if the Irish player doesn't re-gather, the dileberate play by the French player made it impossible illegally.  If he had done it legally then the conversation would have been different.

Or that is how I understand it
This makes sense. It's only a knock on if it touches the floor or another player and this touch is not taken into account in the same way you ignore an illegal tackle for a penalty try call.

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 9:27 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Can France win the tournament if they score another try?

Have to win by 32 and score 4 tries.

Ah okay, quite a task for France. So the fact they won against England doesn’t come into it?

Nope. Believe its points from wins etc. Then point difference. Then tries scored. Then a shared championship.

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Post by Heaf on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 9:28 pm

Brendan wrote:
rugby racing and beer wrote:
Heaf wrote:Interesting point by MJ in the break re the France YC - if the Irish player knocked the ball forwards before the French player batted it out shouldn't it have been a scrum France as the knock-on came before the penalty?

No, a penalty overrules a knock on, particularly so for deliberate foul play.

It is only a knock on if the Irish player doesn't re-gather, the dileberate play by the French player made it impossible illegally.  If he had done it legally then the conversation would have been different.

Or that is how I understand it

I guess that could be right - so he could have just touched it and been OK ...

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Post by rugby racing and beer on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 9:29 pm

3 converted tries for Ireland with no response from France would see them win the title - level on points difference, but the try bonus point would give it to them overall.

Can't see that happening, though.

France have momentum now.

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Post by Brendan on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 9:32 pm

Ireland have loss unless they get 3 tries and won by a point

It seems Ireland haven't adapted

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Post by Brendan on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 9:33 pm

Well done Henshaw, only 2 more to go

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Post by rugby racing and beer on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 9:33 pm

France just look too strong.

In the end I think we're going to see the two teams cancel each other out. France might get another 1, possibly 2, tries. But not enough for the 30+ point difference

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Post by rugby racing and beer on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 9:34 pm

Best game of the weekend so far by a mile. Hopefully both teams have a real crack now, open up and play running rugby.

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Post by Brendan on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 9:35 pm

Suddenly only 8 pts behind but I still think France will score again before Ireland.

So many mistakes

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 9:37 pm

Murray and Sexton haven’t been great today. They’re probably the sort of half-backs you’d like to come off the bench for 20-30 minutes. I’ll put my neck out there... Cooney and Byrne should be starters Very Happy

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Post by Scottrf on Sat 31 Oct 2020, 9:38 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:Murray and Sexton haven’t been great today. They’re probably the sort of half-backs you’d like to come off the bench for 20-30 minutes. I’ll put my neck out there... Cooney and Byrne should be starters Very Happy
They haven't been great for half a decade.

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