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Post by BigGee Tue 10 Nov 2020, 1:40 am

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Italy v Scotland
Autumn Nations Cup

Stadio Artemio Franchi
Florence
Italy

Saturday 14th November 2020
KO 12.45

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There is a very rarely documented medical condition where visitors to Florence, on stepping off the train, gaze around and go wow, or words to that effect, then promptly drop dead. Post Mortem reveals no obvious cause of death and the assumption is that they were simply overwhelmed by the beauty of Florence.

Hopefully the Scotland team won't be visiting the sites and wonders of this amazing city prior to the match and they can concentrate on dealing with the less overwhelming beauty of the Italian team in front of them. No messing about know, wheras in the 6n we were cagey and badly in need of a result, this time, we are a confident team who need a performance as much as a result, following our ground out win, important as it was to the development of this team, down in Wales.

We also need to show that we can rotate our squad around a bit and still pack a punch and this is likely to be the game to do that in, seeing as a few of our stars might be in need of a rest. Injury is going to play a part in seeing who is picked as well, with both our front line FHs missing for this one, which surely means that Duncan Weir is the most nailed on selection in the squad. He has been a bit of a talisman against Italy in the past, winning a game we did not deserve to with an outrageous drop goal a few years back.

Italy, always looking for something to prove though and are always game, though they, as Scotland did before them, struggle to play a full 80 minutes at this level without tiring badly and ending up with a loopsided score board at the end of the game. They are bringing some new players through though and the clubs continue to improve. There day will hopefully come, only please not this saturday!

I fancy we will see a much changed Scotland team this time, with a strong bench.

My guess at the team:

1. Keeble - two good cameos off the bench, surely deserves a start and Sutherland maybe needs a rest
2. Mcinally - looked hungry against Wales and Brown had a poor game
3. Berghan - slowly moving into the back up TH role
4. Skinner
5. Toolis
6. Ritchie
7. Cowan
8. Fagerson M - if fit, Thompson if not
9. Horne G - deserves a start
10. Weir - We are all looking forward to seeing that hair
11. VDM
12. Johnson
13. Harris
14. Maitland - Graham gets a rest
15. Jones H

Subs:

Bhatti
Turner
Fagerson Z
Gray J
Du Preez - has played well in his cameos
SHC
Lang - FH cover
Hogg/Kinghorn - which will allow Jones to move to 13 at some point in the second half



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Post by NeilyBroon Sat 14 Nov 2020, 1:35 pm

Well well well. We were definitely the worse side that half. Looks like we should be taking a leaf from Italy's book in terms of support! First time in a while we've been bullied up front too. Hope there's a good half time talk!
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Post by 123456789. Sat 14 Nov 2020, 1:39 pm

I'm a tad worried about this. They're matching our pack and our backs are unbelievably stodgy. Weir needs to step up a tad.

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Post by Heuer27 Sat 14 Nov 2020, 1:41 pm

Ball carrier is being left exposed. Italy picking them off almost at will. They need to support much better and up the aggression.
Errors compounding errors.
It’s like the old Scotland.
Phase play in the right areas of the pitch. Too much headless chicken stuff at the minute.

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Post by BamBam Sat 14 Nov 2020, 1:42 pm

VDM is the kind of player I'd love to see on the Lions, looks lethal going forward but with the current head coach his defence will need to be up to scratch too. Not seen enough of him to know how that side of his game is at the moment

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Post by Heuer27 Sat 14 Nov 2020, 1:43 pm

Front five need to eat some wheatabix at half time

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Post by NeilyBroon Sat 14 Nov 2020, 1:44 pm

Yep, very frustrating. We need an attack plan without Finn and I'm yet to see it! This is where I miss Vern. The structured attack and offloads have just gone down the drain. Price needs to step up too, it's just been poor on the whole. Brilliant from Italy though, great to see them playing with a smile.
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Post by Heuer27 Sat 14 Nov 2020, 1:46 pm

And prime sports can feck right off. It’s Scotland v Italy at the moment, not England v Georgia all day. The commentary is so slanted

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Post by bsando Sat 14 Nov 2020, 1:47 pm

Well hopefully a better second half

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Post by NeilyBroon Sat 14 Nov 2020, 1:47 pm

Heuer27 wrote:And prime sports can feck right off. It’s Scotland v Italy at the moment, not England v Georgia all day. The commentary is so slanted

They got the score wrong literally just as the first half finished 🤣
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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 14 Nov 2020, 1:47 pm

Heuer27 wrote:And prime sports can feck right off. It’s Scotland v Italy at the moment, not England v Georgia all day. The commentary is so slanted

About to say the same thing. Game on a knife edge who cares about talking about style points against georgia?

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Post by Heuer27 Sat 14 Nov 2020, 1:49 pm

At least the half time talk went well

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama Sat 14 Nov 2020, 1:50 pm

Agh these errors, ffs!

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Post by NeilyBroon Sat 14 Nov 2020, 1:50 pm

Heuer27 wrote:At least the half time talk went well

Italy's certainly did!
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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 14 Nov 2020, 1:53 pm

Probably a forward pass there at the end. Some lovely passing before that though.

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Post by tigertattie Sat 14 Nov 2020, 1:53 pm

Nice hands from Harris. Something. I never thought I’d say
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Post by 123456789. Sat 14 Nov 2020, 1:53 pm

yeah think this will be chalked off

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Post by NeilyBroon Sat 14 Nov 2020, 1:54 pm

Meatball!!! The try he was born for!
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Post by BigGee Sat 14 Nov 2020, 1:54 pm

Probably was forward

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Post by NeilyBroon Sat 14 Nov 2020, 1:55 pm

Premature. He just can't get the staff!
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Post by tigertattie Sat 14 Nov 2020, 1:55 pm

I don’t think Johnson was expecting Harris to be able to get the ball to him
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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 14 Nov 2020, 1:58 pm

Lol bizarre.

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:00 pm

Had me screaming at him to put the ball down there!

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:00 pm

Harsh by Wayne Barnes. Trundles over the line.

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Post by BigGee Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:01 pm

We dederved it though

14-14

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Post by Heuer27 Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:01 pm

Faegerson from 40yrds. 😁

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Post by NeilyBroon Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:01 pm

Feel bad for Italy on that one, good lesson for kids though, don't stop playing until you know there's a penalty!
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Post by tigertattie Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:03 pm

I’d put Sam HC on. Price is having a meh game at best
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Post by 123456789. Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:04 pm

I think the ref should be looking at the fish hook

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Post by tigertattie Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:06 pm

Ffs Jonny. Watch where yer feet are
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Post by BigGee Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:07 pm

VDM looks dangerous on every touch

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Post by NeilyBroon Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:08 pm

Harris is our defensive, maul and knock on specialist...
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Post by NeilyBroon Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:11 pm

Horrible feeling this is Italy's day, 20 mins to go...
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Post by Heuer27 Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:13 pm

NeilyBroon wrote:Horrible feeling this is Italy's day, 20 mins to go...

Felt that from the start. They just want it more.

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Post by Mcsweens Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:14 pm

VDM still has to work on his defence

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Post by NeilyBroon Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:14 pm

Time to get the replacements on. Need a change up. SHC definitely, pains me to say it but Lang may tighten us up a bit in defence for Weir.
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Post by Mcsweens Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:15 pm

Not convinced about that 5m scrum - ref saw deceptive camera angles

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Post by NeilyBroon Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:17 pm

Harris may be a defensive rock but he has to be with the amount of turnovers he concedes!
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Post by Mcsweens Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:23 pm

YASS

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Post by NeilyBroon Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:24 pm

Great try. Turners contribution was superb too!
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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:25 pm

Looks bad for polledri.

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Post by Heuer27 Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:26 pm

Turner made that one. He has to be pushing for the backup slot at 2. All action ball carrier which we are badly missing.

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Post by BigGee Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:26 pm

Pressure told for that try

Itsly going to miss Polledri

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Post by NeilyBroon Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:27 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:Looks bad for polledri.

Hopefully just precautionary but is never nice to see. Especially a player who has contributed so much to the match
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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:30 pm

Welcome back SHC, always too good a player to have been away from international rugby so long. Glad he’s finally got himself back on track!

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Post by Mcsweens Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:31 pm

Kinda expect weir to score a droppie soon!

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Post by Heuer27 Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:35 pm

Tommy Allan sliced his leg on the hoarding. Probably a result of the very small and narrow pitch.

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Post by Mcsweens Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:35 pm

Turner has been good

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Post by BigGee Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:36 pm

Looked like a try

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Post by BigGee Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:36 pm

Perfect try

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Post by Heaf Sat 14 Nov 2020, 2:38 pm

Italy maybe a bit unlucky - all came from a knock-on call from a line out that looked like it had been knocked back by Johnny Gray unless I missed something?

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