India v England Test Series Tipping Competition

2021 India v England Tipping Competition Rules:

1.
Pick 2 (two) batsmen and 2 (two) bowlers from both India and England whom you think will score the most runs and take the most wickets.
You get both batting and bowling points per innings so a bowler who scores runs has both batting and bowling scores added together.
e.g.
Kohli, Pujara, Ashwin, Bumrah
Burns, Root, Broad, Bess

2.
Pick 1 (one) fielder from each team; excluding wicket keepers for most catches in the Series.
It can be a bowler (for c&b) if you want.
e.g.
Gill, Stokes

3.
Select which wicket keeper will take the greatest number of catches, stumpings and run outs combined for each Test.
If a wicket keeper is injured then the replacement keeper's figures shall be used.
e.g.
Pant or Buttler... or "the same" amount of dismissals.

4.
Predict the Toss:
a) Who wins the toss?
e.g.
England

b) Winning captain's decision - bat or field?
e.g.
Bat

5.
a) Predict the 1st Test result.
e.g.
India

Selections must be posted a minimum one (1) hour before the commencement of each Test. No PM reminders shall be sent.


Scoring:

1.
1 point for every run scored by your nominated batsmen. Add together for each Test.
Bonus 20 points for 100 runs.
extra 25 points for 150 runs.
extra 40 points for 200 runs.
extra 50 points for 250 runs.
extra 60 bonus points for 300+ runs.

Note: the batting & bowling score bonuses accumulate so;

Batting:
100 runs = 120 points. A player scores 127 + 20 = 147 points.
150 runs = 195 points. A player scores 176 + 20 + 25 = 221 points.
200 runs = 285 points. A player scores 243 + 20 + 25 + 40 = 328 points.
250 runs = 385 points. A player scores 282 + 20 + 25 + 40 + 50 = 417 points
300+ runs = 445 points. A player scores 309 + 20 + 25 + 40 + 50 + 60 = 504 points.

Bowling:
20 points per wicket with a bonus 50 points for a 5-fer.
An extra 35 points for 6-fer, 40 for 7-fer, 45 for 8-fer, 50 for 9-fer.
An extra 100 bonus points for a 10-fer.

5 wickets = 100 + 50 = 150 points
6 wickets = 120 + 50 + 35 = 205 points.
7 wickets = 140 + 50 + 35 + 40 = 265 points
8 wickets = 160 + 50 + 35 + 40 + 45 = 330 points
9 wickets = 180 + 50 + 35 + 40 + 45 + 50 = 400 points
10 wickets = 200 + 50 + 35 + 40 + 45 + 50 + 100 = 520 points

Caught and bowled = 20 points for the wicket + 25 bonus points for the catch = 45 points.

2.
Fielder catches: Your nominated fieldsmen earn you 25 points per catch and 25 points for a run out.

3.
Wicket keepers: 50 points for correct selection. e,g. - Pant or Buttler.
Or if you think they will take the same number of total dismissals per innings - then nominate "the same" = 50 points.
If they take the same number of catches and stumpings (combined) and you've picked either one of the keepers - then 25 points only.

4.
a) Correctly predict who wins the toss = 15 points
b) Correctly predict what the winning Captain decides to do = 15 points - only for those with part a) above correct; no points if your a) was incorrect.

5.
a) Correctly predict the winning team for each Test = 75 points.
b) If you guess all 4 Test Match outcomes correctly then there is a further 125 point bonus = 300 + 125 = 425 points.
Note: Correctly predict a "Draw" = 75 points

If one (or more) of your selected players gets injured during a match or is dropped from the Test side after a match, then you’ll have the opportunity to select replacement players – either as it happens - for the injured player or before the next Test commences (for a player who gets dropped). Doesn’t have to be the actual substitute player – it can be somebody else already in the team. However, you don’t receive any of their previous points – you must start accumulating points from scratch with them.

*****

February 05-09: 1st Test at M.A. Chidambaram Stadium, Chennai. England won by 227 runs. (0-1)

February 13-17: 2nd Test at M.A. Chidambaram Stadium, Chennai. India won by 317 runs. (1-1)

February 24-28: 3rd Test at Sardar Patel Stadium, Ahmedabad. India won by 10 wickets. (2-1)

March 04-08: 4th Test at Sardar Patel Stadium, Ahmedabad. India won by an innings and 25 runs. (3-1)

*****

Good Luck!

Full Squads - First Two Tests

India:

Virat Kohli *, Ajinkya Rahane, Rohit Sharma, Mayank Agarwal, Shubman Gill, Cheteshwar Pujara, KL Rahul, Hardik Pandya,
Rishabh Pant †, Wriddhiman Saha †, Ravichandran Ashwin, Kuldeep Yadav, Axar Patel, Washington Sundar, Ishant Sharma,
Jasprit Bumrah, Mohammed Siraj, Shardul Thakur.


England:

Joe Root *, Moeen Ali, Dom Bess, Stuart Broad, Rory Burns, Jos Buttler †, Zak Crawley, Ben Foakes †, Dan Lawrence,
Jack Leach, Ben Stokes, Olly Pope, Olly Stone, Dom Sibley, Chris Woakes, Jofra Archer, James Anderson.

1. Pujara, Pant, Ashwin, Kuldeep
Pope, Root, Bess, Archer

2. Pope
Pujara

3. Pant (or Saha if he plays)

4. India, bat

5. India win

Great stuff, Pee Jay. You're still my favourite Aussie.

Batting - Kohli & Pujara / Root & Buttler

Bowling - Ashwin & Kuldeep / Leach & Archer

Catchers - Kohli & Stokes

Keeper - Buttler

Toss - India & bat

Winner - India

1. Rahane, Kohli, Ashwin & Bumrah
Burns, Root, Leach & Archer (would have picked Stokes instead of Archer but unsure if he'll bowl)

2. Pope & Gill

3. Buttler

4. England, bat

5. India win

Gill, Kohli, Ashwin, Bumrah
Pope, Root, Leach, Moeen (Archer if Moeen is not selected)

Pope
Kohli

Pant - Whoever keeps for India

England, bat

India win (by a lot)


Cheers PJ!

1) Rohit, Pant, Ashwin, Yadav
Root, Stokes, Archer, Anderson/Broad

2) Root and Gill.

3) India's wicketkeeper.

4) India to win the toss and bat.

5) India win.

Thanks again, you're a saint.

Lot of guesswork in this given all the rotating etc...but will be fun, no ?

Bat/Bowl India  Kohli Pujara Ashwin Bumrah
England            Root Stokes Broad Bess

Catches  Root and Rahane
WK Pant

England win toss and bat (Surely Root is due !)

England win !   Just to be different

Bat/bowl
Kohli, Rohit, Ashwin, Bumrah
Root, Stokes, Leach, Archer

Catches
Root and Kohli

Keeper
Buttler/Foakes

England win toss and bat

First test - India win

Cheers for this PJ

1.
Pujara, Kohli, Ashwin, Bumrah
Stokes, Root, Leach, Moeen (Archer if Moeen doesn't play)

2.
Root
Rahane

3.
Pant/Saha

4.
India, bat

5.
India

Great stuff king_carlos... it's good to have you on board!

Thanks James and everyone else too.

I sent out a scatter gun bulk PM to quite a few folk. Hopefully we can get over a dirty dozen on here.

Cheers, PJ.

Detailed consideration this afternoon. Names out of a hat this evening.

guildfordbat wrote:Cheers, PJ.

Detailed consideration this afternoon. Names out of a hat this evening.

Yes, me too, Guildford.

I might wait until the afternoon (tomorrow) here when the final teams are announced; although I have most of my selections at the top of my head.

Thanks for the invite PJ

Batting
Kohli, Pujara, Root, Stokes

Bowling
Ashwin, Yadav, Leach, Moeen

Catch - Kohli, Root

Keeper - Pant

Toss - England and bat

1st test - India win

Thanks Afro. Great to see you on here!

Pal Joey wrote:Great stuff king_carlos... it's good to have you on board!

Thanks James and everyone else too.

I sent out a scatter gun bulk PM to quite a few folk. Hopefully we can get over a dirty dozen on here.

Cheers for setting it up Joey. Whilst I harbour few hopes for England over the course of the series I do at least think we have the individuals to play very good cricket in parts. I think we will be beaten by a better side in too many sessions to really challenge the series but should be capable of winning enough sessions when we get it right to potentially nip a Test and keep things interesting.

Regardless of the end result I do think this England side are on an upward trajectory and as long as we don't see absolute drubbings by an innings I don't think losing in India to this India team will represent too much of a blow to that progression.

Queue England all out for 150 in 2 and a half sessions tomorrow followed by then India making 700 batting for 2 and a half days over weekend...

Eng
Stokes & Butler
Moeen and Woakes
If no Moeen, then Leach
If no Woakes then Curran

India
Gill & Rohit
Sundar and Ashwin

WK
Pant

Catchers
Pujara & Stokes

TOSS
Indian win the toss and bat first
Result
India win

1. Pujara, Kohli, Ashwin, Kuldeep
Stokes, Root, Bess, Archer

2. Stokes, Kohli

3. Buttler

4. India, bat

5. India win

Strange doing this and not being able to cut and paste 'Starc and Cummins'. Anyway, here goes!

1. Kohli, Pujara, Ashwin, Bumrah
Root, Pope, Bess, Leach (or Broad/Anderson)

2. Pope
Kohli

3. Pant (or Saha)

4. India, bat

5. India win.

guildfordbat wrote:Strange doing this and not being able to cut and paste 'Starc and Cummins'. Anyway, here goes!

1. Kohli, Pujara, Ashwin, Bumrah
Root, Pope, Bess, Leach (or Broad/Anderson)

2. Pope
Kohli

3. Pant (or Saha)

4. India, bat

5. India win.

I considered Pope there at short leg with Leach as primary spinner and India's right-handers. If Leach bowls well his orthodox ball should challenge the outside edge and arm ball challenge the inside edge bringing Pope in to play.

I plumped for Root in the slips with Archer, Broad and Anderson though. How well India play spin might have been a small factor too admittedly!

Alarmed to see cricinfo suggesting seven changes to the England team from Galle...

Apart from this just sounding weird (never change a winning team ?) it makes this comp a problem ! Don't want to be doing this at the toss . So , PJ : if my England bowlers are removed from the show I will replace as follows :

Broad becomes Anderson first , then Woakes.
Bess becomes Moeen , then Woakes , then Anderson. If that all makes sense...

Yes, I've been reading that too, alfie.

Makes our task a bit harder but once the final teams are announced, probably just after the toss, then at least we'll all have more certainty.

I see KP_Fan has already correctly predicted Washington Sundar (possibly) in for Axar Patel (injured knee) but he also has Curran (not sure which one?) in there as a replacement for Woakes... if Woakes is selected.

Anyway... your order of preferences above is noted.

alfie wrote:
Broad becomes Anderson first , then Woakes.
Bess becomes Moeen , then Woakes , then  Anderson.

The same degree of flexibility for final selections applies to everyone else of course - once we know exactly whom will take the field.
Quite a few of us have some combination of Ali, Bess and Leach or Archer, Broad and Anderson.

I'm obviously still treating Stokes as an all-rounder... whether he bowls much or not. Pretty sure he'll have to roll the arm over for a few spells.
Root also has some scope for collecting some extra points if he appears next to the umpire with his golden arm too.

1.
Gill, Kohli, Ashwin, Kuldeep
Root, Stokes, Bess (then Ali), Broad (then Anderson)

2. Kohli, Pope

3. Pant

4. England, bat

5. India win

Duty281 wrote:1) Rohit, Pant, Ashwin, Yadav
Root, Stokes, Archer, Anderson/Broad

2) Root and Gill.

3) India's wicketkeeper.

4) India to win the toss and bat.

5) India win.

Thanks again, you're a saint.

Washington instead of Yadav, then.

Duty281 wrote:

Duty281 wrote:1) Rohit, Pant, Ashwin, Yadav
Root, Stokes, Archer, Anderson/Broad

2) Root and Gill.

3) India's wicketkeeper.

4) India to win the toss and bat.

5) India win.

Thanks again, you're a saint.

Washington instead of Yadav, then.

Thanks Duty.

England:

Dom Sibley, Rory Burns, Dan Lawrence, Joe Root *, Ben Stokes, Ollie Pope,
Jos Buttler †, Dom Bess, Jofra Archer, Jack Leach, James Anderson


India:

Rohit Sharma, Shubman Gill, Cheteshwar Pujara, Virat Kohli *, Ajinkya Rahane,
Rishabh Pant †, Washington Sundar, R Ashwin, Shahbaz Nadeem, Ishant Sharma, Jasprit Bumrah

KP_fan wrote:Eng
Stokes & Butler
Moeen and Woakes
If no Moeen, then Leach
If no Woakes then Curran

India
Gill & Rohit
Sundar and Ashwin

WK
Pant

Catchers
Pujara & Stokes

TOSS
Indian win the toss and bat first
Result
India win

No Currans in India at present , KP_fan. Better replace Woakes , eh ?

So just to confirm everyone's picks - please let me know if you want to make a late change. This is what I've got so far.


Players in bold require a replacement. Post your choices up here or PM me as soon as you can.


Ind Bat / Ind Bowl / Eng Bat / Eng Bowl /Ind Field - Eng Field / WK / Toss - Decision / Winner

Olly:
Pujara Pant / Ashwin Sundar / Root Pope / Bess Archer / Pujara Pope / Pant / India - bat / India

Tino:
Pujara Kohli / Ashwin Sundar / Root Buttler / Archer Leach / Kohli Stokes / Buttler / India - bat / India

Soul Requiem:
Kohli Rahane / Ashwin Bumrah / Burns Root / Archer Leach / Gill Pope / Buttler / England - bat / India

JDizzle:
Gill Kohli / Ashwin Bumrah / Root Pope / Archer Leach / Kohli Pope / Pant / England - bat / India

Duty:
Rohit Pant / Ashwin Sundar / Root Stokes / Archer Anderson / Gill Root / Pant / India - bat / India

Alfie:
Pujara Kohli / Ashwin Bumrah / Root Stokes / Bess Anderson / Rahane Root / Pant / England - bat / England

King Carlos:
Rohit Kohli / Ashwin Bumrah / Root Stokes / Archer Leach / Kohli Root / Buttler / England - bat / India

James100:
Pujara Kohli / Ashwin Bumrah / Root Stokes / Archer Leach / Rahane Root / Pant / India - bat / India

Afro:
Pujara Kohli / Ashwin Sundar / Root Stokes / Bess Leach / Kohli Root / Pant / England - bat / India

KP_Fan:
Rohit Gill / Ashwin Sundar / Root Buttler / Stokes Leach / Pujara Stokes / Pant / India - bat / India

Dolphin Ziggler:
Pujara Kohli / Ashwin Sundar / Root Stokes / Bess Archer / Kohli Stokes / Buttler / India - bat / India

Guildfordbat:
Pujara Kohli / Ashwin Bumrah / Root Pope / Bess Leach / Kohli Pope / Pant / India - bat / India

Pal Joey:
Gill Kohli / Ashwin Sundar / Root Stokes / Bess Anderson / Kohli Pope / Pant / England - bat / India

Superflyweight:
Pujara Rahane / Ashwin Sharma / Root Buttler / Leach Anderson / Gill Root / Buttler / - / India

Gooseberry:
Rohit Kohli / Ashwin Bumrah / Root Stokes / Leach Anderson / Pujara Stokes / Pant / - / India


Notes:

If you see anything which doesn't look right to you - please let me know.

Assuming those who selected Kuldeep - I've replaced with Sundar - unless you want someone else. Please let me know.

I move Stokes to be my bowler please
Stokes and Leach bowlers
Butler and Root as batsmen

KP_fan wrote:I move Stokes to be my bowler please
Stokes and Leach bowlers
Butler and Root as batsmen

Sure Boss... all good.

Just edited your picks in the list above.

Will replace Kuldeep with Sundar as you suggest PJ

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Will replace Kuldeep with Sundar as you suggest PJ

Thanks Olly. Done.

Pal Joey wrote:

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Will replace Kuldeep with Sundar as you suggest PJ

Thanks Olly. Done.

I'm happy with that also, Pee Jay.

Thanks champ.

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

Pal Joey wrote:

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Will replace Kuldeep with Sundar as you suggest PJ

Thanks Olly. Done.

I'm happy with that also, Pee Jay.

Thanks champ.

Morning mate. Thanks for that. Fixed up there now.

Ill take Sibley and Root as my England batsmen, will post the rest of my picks later

Gooseberry wrote:Ill take Sibley and Root as my England batsmen, will post the rest of my picks later

Reckon we can give you a KP_fan deal , goose

If PJ agrees ?

Wouldn't be a tipping competition without a goose so hope we can strike a deal...

Wouldve had Root and Stokes Leach and Anderson for England I reckon.

India Kholi Rohit Bumrah Aswhin

Catchers Stokes and Pujara

Keeper Pant

India to win (not now but thats my honest pick)

Toss a coin see if I got t right? Whoever won obviously bat first, thast a given.

alfie wrote:

Gooseberry wrote:Ill take Sibley and Root as my England batsmen, will post the rest of my picks later

Reckon we can give you a KP_fan deal , goose

If PJ agrees ?

Wouldn't be a tipping competition without a goose so hope we can strike a deal...

They're on 134 runs combined right now after 69 overs... so how about 50% or 67 points... but you have to stick with Sibley for the whole series?

That would make you 17 points behind equal last place on 84 points (after 69 overs). Sound good?

However, I'll need your other picks very soon - before something happens out there.


Ah... I see you've posted above - we'll go with that. Minus the toss, etc.

Wouldnt have taken Sibley ... Stokes would have been my honest pick

Gooseberry wrote:Wouldnt have taken Sibley ... Stokes would have been my honest pick

Don't worry... all sorted.

I have given you a 20 point penalty for the 40 points (for both of the only two wicket takers so far)... but from now on you get both Ashwin and Bumrah points. I hope I'm not being too severe - (I trust your honesty) but I'm sure you'll make up ground fast.

I'll stick with Archer for this match PJ.

Soul Requiem wrote:I'll stick with Archer for this match PJ.

Yes. I have Archer for you.

You're doing well, Soul... you are the clear leader by 33 points; courtesy of Joe Burns.

Afro: I'm assuming Bess as your replacement for Ali... please let me know if this is what you want.
Also please confirm your replacement for Kuldeep - it'll be Sundar unless I hear otherwise.

Yep, fine for me. Bit late for confirming the Indian bowler, I know but might well have gone for that anyway, and defo would have done Bess instead of Moeen

Thanks PJ

Afro wrote:

Afro: I'm assuming Bess as your replacement for Ali... please let me know if this is what you want.
Also please confirm your replacement for Kuldeep - it'll be Sundar unless I hear otherwise.  

Yep, fine for me. Bit late for confirming the Indian bowler, I know but might well have gone for that anyway, and defo would have done Bess instead of Moeen

Thanks PJ

Cool Afro! So Bess for Ali confirmed and stick with Sundar.

Points Table
1st Test, Day 1:

271 Soul Requiem [271] *#
238 Alfie [238] *#
238 JDizzle [238] *#
238 King Carlos [238] *#
208 Guildfordbat [208]
208 James [208]
198 Afro [198] *#
198 Pal Joey [198] *#
188 Gooseberry [188]
168 Dolphin [168]
168 Duty [168]
168 Olly [168]
168 KP_Fan [168]
168 Superfly [168]
168 Tino [168]

* denotes correct pick England win toss
# denotes correct pick England elected to bat

Average score: 200 [200]

First figure - accumulative score / accumulative average score
Second figure in [brackets] - daily score / daily average


Wow! That looks like a Tour de France GC with clusters of groups all battling it out chasing the leader!

Soul Requiem was the only one who had Joe Burns hence his 33-point lead. Well done!  

No need to panic for the rest of us though. The unfortunate late wicket of Sibley will see positions spread around more tomorrow. I hope.

Gotta love the symmetry though. Everyone has an "8" in their score - except Soul.
The average score is actually 199.53 but it has been rounded up to a neat "200".

Thanks everyone for getting your picks in and helping me sort out your preferences.
It wasn't easy with the late team announcements but we all did well and we're all set to go for this First Test now.

STOP THE COUNT!!!

Soul Requiem was the only one who had Joe Burns hence his 33-point lead. Well done! clap

Burns or Sibley

Soul Requiem wrote:STOP THE COUNT!!!

We're comin' to getchya!

KP_fan wrote:Soul Requiem was the only one who had Joe Burns hence his 33-point lead. Well done!  clap

Burns or Sibley

Nobody had Sibs.

That was like watching pure gold being poured down a drain hole. I'm sure we're all kicking ourselves!

I am underneath a huge pile of men.