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Post by Filo8 Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:07 am

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y ddraig goch wrote:Jac Morgan is leaving the Scarlets for the Ospreys to go and learn his trade off Tipuric. Big loss for the Scarlets but makes sense with Dan Davies, Josh Macelod, and James Davies still on the books. Jac looks like a future Welsh international so it might be a good move for Wales in the long run with the Ospreys finally starting to live up to their potential with a return to the top level of Europe given the players on their books.

Davis and Davies aren’t that good, McCleod is very good but has awful luck with injuries lately. Scarlets’ supporters can’t see why Jac is being let go. Boyde was another good 7 that they let go.

Ospreys are a long way off their potential if last night is anything to go by.
He isn't 'being let go', he's apparently an Ospreys fan and wants to leave despite the offer on the table.
Considering the conditions, the young players in key positions, and the momentum killing refereeing performance (for both sides), Ospreys came out of it with a victory which is what they needed to help secure champions cup rugby next season.
I think it would be better to judge them as of next season when, if all the murmurs are to be believed, we will have a higher proportion of games played with full strength sides.

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Post by GeordieFalcon Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:20 pm

Seems to be a good young attacking full back. Wuss fans are not happy to be losing him.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:32 pm

Nick David does seem to be very highly rated. Not seen him play I don't think but he's had some age grade representation and at 22 should be prime age to kick on. Brown is a tough act to follow.

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Post by The Oracle Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:59 pm

Dwayne Peel named scarlets head coach with Worcester’s Matt Sherratt joining Blues instead.
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Post by Heaf Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:37 pm

London Irish sign SA hooker Mike Willemse from Edinburgh ...

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Post by LordDowlais Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:08 pm

AWJ has signed a one year contract with Ospreys.

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Post by GeordieFalcon Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:11 pm

Carl Fearns confirmed to Falcons with immediate effect.

Good signing...but we need to clear out alot of back row now...we have too many


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:14 pm

Carl Fearns signs for Falcons with immediate effect.

Happy with bringing him on board, but another backrower??? Maybe he can play prop.

6. Wilson
7. Graham
8. Fearns

Is a scary backrow mind.....or we put out:

6. Welch
7. Hardie
8. De Walt

(I won't do the front 5).

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:15 pm

Haha...beat me to it GF! I should use my mod super powers and delete yours Laugh


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Post by GeordieFalcon Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:20 pm

Laugh Laugh Laugh

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Post by GeordieFalcon Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:23 pm

6 Fearns
7 Wilson / Graham
8 Chick

Get shot of Hardie, De Walt and put the money in to the front row.

You still have Welch, Basham / Farrar / Marshall to cover....

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:49 pm

I don't think Chick is quite up to it yet GF, maybe a bench option. Big fan of De Walt though.

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Post by GeordieFalcon Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:30 pm

You see I think Chicks looking Better and better. I think he's a much better all round 8 now. And his carrying this season since he came back from injury has been very good...

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Post by propdavid_london Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:32 am

Fearns was excellent when he left the prem.
I am sure I read something about him pushing for the 'players player' of the year for a couple of seasons in the T14 too! Not sure if I imagined that or not.
In any event, a quality player.

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Post by Kingshu Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:33 pm

Connacht sign Irish qualified Mack Hansen from Brumies.

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Post by GeordieFalcon Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:36 am

i see Jake Kerr has been released by Tigers, Sam.
I thought he was a young hope?

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Post by formerly known as Sam Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:55 am

GeordieFalcon wrote:i see Jake Kerr has been released by Tigers, Sam.
I thought he was a young hope?

I like him as a player. Decent lineout though can flulff his line on occasion, huge work rate in the loose very much in the Scottish mold of the hooker being almost an additional flanker. Borthwick just didn't seem to fancy him. Positive words though which would probably indicate that he had the right approach but just wasn't what Borthwick was looking for.

The hookers we've gone for under Borthwick are good at the scrum and the rolling maul. Anything after that's a bonus. Montoya, Youngs and the journeyman Clare who to be fair has played out of his skin for us, he does very much have limitations but he works hard and is good in the areas Borthwick likes. The writing was on the wall for Kerr when we picked up Nick Dolly from Coventry, he's 21 a former England age grade hooker and looks more in line with what Borthwick wants.

Kerr will rock up at a Scottish team shortly and no doubt do well. Well I hope he does well he's seemed likeable during his time at Tigers and was liked by the fans for his tenacity.

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Post by king_carlos Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:32 pm

I rate Kerr. He impressed early then slipped into the position many young players (particularly tight five forwards) can where he needed to work on a few things to keep improving but struggled for game time to prove if he had improved. A lot of guys in their early to mid-twenties end up in that limbo and it must be very frustrating as a young player that's working hard.

It infuriated me a couple of seasons ago when the direly out of form Youngs and Polota-Nau (one of my favourite players at his peak) were playing ahead of Kerr but underperforming whilst taking up a ridiculous amount of salary cap in what is on average the lowest paid position in the Premiership. Hooker was the focus of my ire around Tigers diabolical recruitment for a while!

With Montoya joining as a genuinely world class first choice, Youngs re-finding his form and signing a contract with a salary more in keeping with the player he now is, Clare performing far above what was expected, Nic Dolly an affordable project and the impressive Archie Vanes coming out of the academy our hooker stocks have done a u-turn from overpaid and underperforming to very well balanced.

A shame to see Kerr go but he needs to play and was 4th choice here with the 3 ahead of him now actually there on merit of recent performances.

I hope Jake ends up at Edinburgh. Selfishly, as I live there and would love to see him progress at the new baby Murrayfield. I also think he'd slot into that squad very well and get game time, especially with Willemse leaving.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:08 pm

king_carlos wrote:

It infuriated me a couple of seasons ago when the direly out of form Youngs and Polota-Nau (one of my favourite players at his peak) were playing ahead of Kerr but underperforming whilst taking up a ridiculous amount of salary cap in what is on average the lowest paid position in the Premiership. Hooker was the focus of my ire around Tigers diabolical recruitment for a while!

This. I didn't want TPN because I thought he was passed it got told on the official forum how wrong I was and... what a waste of money. Youngs well that was different as things were happening off the field that I can't blame him for being effected by.

Kerr deserved more of a chance at the time but had the misfortune of MOC as head coach. A man so far out of his depth he couldn't see the surface followed by the Murphy limbo period. I honestly think he'll be a success north of the border and you'll enjoy watching him Carlos. As that's two Edinburgh hookers announced as going they must need another.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:23 pm

Owen Williams now being linked with Wuss.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:07 am

mikey_dragon wrote:Owen Williams now being linked with Wuss.

They are allegedly desperate to acquire an 8 and a flyhalf. Owen Williams won't be cheap he'll be the sole marquee signing I'd imagine. He seemed to accept that injuries meant he wasn't going to be a regular Wales international when he took the money in Japan instead of going back to Wales. I doubt he'd risk his body by coming back to the Prem for anything short of a good pay day. Staying in Japan would be good financially and we've seen it lengthen players careers that have had injuries.

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Post by Margin_Walker Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:34 pm

Worcester sign Sione Vailanu from Wasps.

Ben Meehan leaves LI with immediate effect for personal reasons

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Post by king_carlos Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:09 pm

Still 2 marquee players next season. I'd imagine that Duhan will definitely fill one spot for Worcester.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:04 pm

king_carlos wrote:Still 2 marquee players next season. I'd imagine that Duhan will definitely fill one spot for Worcester.

Is there? I thought we were down to one spot for next season.

Worcester are apparently having a mammoth clear out with as many as 20 players going. They are being linked with Sutherland and generally splashing the cash this summer on a serious rebuild.

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Post by RiscaGame Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:30 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:Owen Williams now being linked with Wuss.

Confirmed.

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Post by king_carlos Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:41 am

formerly known as Sam wrote:
king_carlos wrote:Still 2 marquee players next season. I'd imagine that Duhan will definitely fill one spot for Worcester.

Is there? I thought we were down to one spot for next season.

Worcester are apparently having a mammoth clear out with as many as 20 players going. They are being linked with Sutherland and generally splashing the cash this summer on a serious rebuild.
Yep. The senior ceiling comes down to £5m for the 2021/22 season but stays at 2 marquee players. Then for 2022/23 it's £5m senior ceiling and 1 marquee player.

The agreement to reduce the cap in light of covid was only agreed by all the shareholder clubs on the stipulation it went back to "at least" £6.4m from the 2023/24 season as well so there will only actually be one season with the cap down at £5m and just the one marquee player.

I believe the marquee dispensation is planned to remain at one player a season after the cap goes back up in 2023/24 but I'm not certain on that to be honest.

The cap this season is still at £6.4m and 2 marquee players but with the wage cuts agreed by most (or is it all now?) clubs last season I'd guess every club is well below that at present anyway.

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Post by GeordieFalcon Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:34 am

Pablo Matera has signed for the Crusaders...big signing that.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:01 am

GeordieFalcon wrote:Pablo Matera has signed for the Crusaders...big signing that.

Well that'll be interesting to watch. Might see him kick on again, he's developed in one hell of a player in recent years.

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat May 01, 2021 10:15 am

GeordieFalcon wrote:Pablo Matera has signed for the Crusaders...big signing that.

Saw that, what a great signing for them

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Post by mikey_dragon Mon May 03, 2021 12:14 pm

It’s been rumoured for a while but now it looks like a done-deal, Ospreys are signing Michael Collins - WQ through a grandparent. It looks like they’ll also been singing his teammate Jack Regan, formerly of Ulster.

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Post by propdavid_london Wed May 05, 2021 3:15 pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/56998171
This snuck in under the radar a bit!
Replacement for Lang I guess

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Post by Collapse2005 Wed May 05, 2021 5:37 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:It’s been rumoured for a while but now it looks like a done-deal, Ospreys are signing Michael Collins - WQ through a grandparent. It looks like they’ll also been singing his teammate Jack Regan, formerly of Ulster.

Yeah saw that about Regan. He was one of two Irish men playing in Super rugby NZ. Son of a famous Offaly hurler.

Hope he does well.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Wed May 05, 2021 6:04 pm

propdavid_london wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/56998171
This snuck in under the radar a bit!
Replacement for Lang I guess

I presume Tommaso will retire from international rugby now. Quins have needed some good flyhalf cover so this move makes sense.

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Post by Hazel Sapling Wed May 05, 2021 8:08 pm

Nic Groom has signed for LI until the end of the season.

He was allowed to leave Edinburgh early and the move to LI makes sense for him to attempt to earn a contract for next season should he wish to stay in the UK.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Thu May 06, 2021 7:20 am

Slightly disappointed to see LI sign Nic Groom instead of giving some youngsters a chance in a season where there's no relegation.

Lee Blackett has confirmed that Wasps have a new front row worth of players signed but not announced and has said they are looking for two locks and a 6/8 that can jump in the lineout. Leaving it a bit late to do business but sounds like they'll be making announcements soon.

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Post by Margin_Walker Thu May 06, 2021 7:36 am

formerly known as Sam wrote:Slightly disappointed to see LI sign Nic Groom instead of giving some youngsters a chance in a season where there's no relegation.

Lee Blackett has confirmed that Wasps have a new front row worth of players signed but not announced and has said they are looking for two locks and a 6/8 that can jump in the lineout. Leaving it a bit late to do business but sounds like they'll be making announcements soon.

I was slightly surprised by it too. Fully expected them to get a Groom type player in next season, but thought we may finish the season with the cover we have. Unless Phipps has picked up a niggle we don't know about.

Couple of Young 9s at the club who have had virtually no rugby this season with Covid doing away with the minor competitions like the Prem Cup and Phipps/Meehan proving extremely durable. Brand is the older of the two, but he's been leapfrogged in the pecking order by Englefield who they clearly rate fairly highly and is more of a classical 9 with better basics.

Short term Groom gives us two experienced options in the position, but I think they should have taken the risk on this one.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Thu May 06, 2021 9:18 am

I remember Brand from his under 20s days and I'd imagine that he'd be ideal for LI as an impact sub particularly with the attacking style they play with. Very quick player. Doesn't surprise me that there's another one ready to come out of the bumper LI academy already either.

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