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Post by The Oracle Wed 31 Mar 2021, 9:49 am

On the other Lions thread I was quite critical of the notion of a Lions squad based on equal representation. I feel it should be the coaches who get to pick the players they will ultimately coach. However, thinking about it in my head and the players I would choose for Wales was quite fun so thought I’d start this thread.

So......... lets say we have a 40 man Lions squad to allow a big ‘bubble’ for injuries and rotation, etc. Here’s a chance to pick the 10 players from your own nation who you think should go. Have a go at picking 10 from other nations too if you like but if we focus on our own then we can put together the groups of 10 in a few days and see where we are. We might have too many in one position and might then need to ‘trade’.

(I’m hoping this stays civil OK Laugh)
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Post by The Oracle Wed 31 Mar 2021, 9:49 am

So I’ll go first.  Here’s my 10 for Wales:

Wyn Jones
Ken Owens
Alun Wyn Jones
Josh Navidi
Justin Tipuric
Taulupe Faletau
Gareth Davies
Dan Biggar
Liam Williams
Josh Adams/Louis Rees Zammit (can’t decide - both have their merits)

(Edit: can’t count and chose 11! So have removed George North)
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Post by R!skysports Wed 31 Mar 2021, 9:58 am

Scotland

Zander Fagerson
Rory Sutherland
J Gray
Hamish Watson
Finn Russell
Sean Maitland
Chris Harris
Stuart Hogg
Huw Jones
Duhan van der Merwe

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Post by BamBam Wed 31 Mar 2021, 9:59 am

Maro Itoje
Tom Curry
Anthony Watson
Jonny May
Kyle Sinckler
Owen Farrell
Sam Underhill
Luke Cowan Dickie
Mako Vunipola
Joe Marler if available

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Post by The Oracle Wed 31 Mar 2021, 9:59 am

Risky, that’s the exact same 10 that I chose for Scotland when I did this in my head! OK
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Post by No 7&1/2 Wed 31 Mar 2021, 10:02 am

LCD
Sinckler
Itoje
Launchbury
Curry
Farrell
May
Watson
Marler
B vunipola.

If marler says yes.

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Post by Old Man Wed 31 Mar 2021, 10:07 am

No 7&1/2 wrote:LCD
Sinckler
Itoje
Launchbury
Curry
Farrell
May
Watson
Marler
B vunipola.

If marler says yes.

It will be a party, I am sure he would want to go

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Post by Soul Requiem Wed 31 Mar 2021, 10:09 am

Itoje
Curry
May
Watson
Marler
Kruis
Underhill
Cowan-Dickie
Sinckler
Launchbury

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Post by BamBam Wed 31 Mar 2021, 10:14 am

The Oracle wrote:Risky, that’s the exact same 10 that I chose for Scotland when I did this in my head! OK

I would have had Ritchie as one of my 10 Scots

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Post by No 7&1/2 Wed 31 Mar 2021, 10:14 am

Old Man wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:LCD
Sinckler
Itoje
Launchbury
Curry
Farrell
May
Watson
Marler
B vunipola.

If marler says yes.

It will be a party, I am sure he would want to go

Professionally he would want to go. He's aware of the pressure he and his family would face however.

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Post by BamBam Wed 31 Mar 2021, 10:55 am

So the early composite squad .. I've only included the consensus England players for now

LH - Sutherland, Jones, Marler
Hooker - Owens, LCD
Tighthead - Sinckler, Fagerson
Lock - Itoje, Gray, Jones
Back row - Navidi, Tipuric, Faletau, Watson, Curry

Scrum half - Davies
FH - Biggar, Russell, Farrell
Centre - Harris, Jones
Back 3 - Maitland, Hogg, Duhan, May, Watson, Williams

Others mentioned - Underhill, Mako, Billy, Launchbury, Kruis, Adams, LRZ

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Post by bsando Wed 31 Mar 2021, 11:27 am

In order of must go, to less so..

Hogg
Watson
Z Fagerson

Those three for me should tour.

DVDM
Sutherland
Russell
J Gray
Ritchie
Harris

A selection of those six players should tour depending on how generous Gatland is feeling, all of them would be very useful to have.

Maitland
Redpath
Jones
Price
M Fagerson
McInally
Brown
Turner
Cherry
Kebble

Outside chances but unlikely to tour.

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Post by The Oracle Wed 31 Mar 2021, 11:32 am

I’ll take a stab at an Ireland 10 for the squad.  Feel free to rubbish my picks as I’m not on the ‘inside’:

Healy
Furlong
Porter
Henderson
Beirne
Stander
Murray
Sexton
Henshaw
Stockdale
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Post by George Carlin Wed 31 Mar 2021, 11:41 am

Surprised that Phil Vickey is making none of these lists.
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Post by lostinwales Wed 31 Mar 2021, 11:43 am

George Carlin wrote:Surprised that Phil Vickey is making none of these lists.

I can understand them going for youth over experience in some cases, although obviously not in the case of Healy.

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Post by The Oracle Wed 31 Mar 2021, 11:53 am

George Carlin wrote:Surprised that Phil Vickey is making none of these lists.

He’s at that stage of his career where he’s just blowing too hot and cold for me. A bit more consistency and he might be in with a shout. I mean, he was anonymous the other week vs Ireland.
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Post by LordDowlais Wed 31 Mar 2021, 12:03 pm

could we do this, but we have to pick a 15 man squad without any players from your own nation ?

Here's my go:-

Dave Kilcoyne
Rob Herring
Tadhg Furlong
Tadhg Beirne
Maro Itoje
Hamish Watson
Tom Curry
Billy Vunipola
Connor Murray
Johnny Sexton
Robbie Henshaw
Bundi Aki/Gary Ringrose
Anthony Watson
Duhan Van de Merwe/Earls
Stuart Hogg

Cannot decide on two positions.

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Post by Hazel Sapling Wed 31 Mar 2021, 1:27 pm

40 man squad with 10 from each (should be roughly even split between forwards and backs for each country)

LH: Marler, Wyn Jones, Sutherland
HK: George, Owens, McInally
TH: Furlong, Porter, Fagerson
LK: Itoje, Ryan, Beirne, Henderson, J Gray, Lawes or Launchbury
BR: Ritchie, Watson, Curry, Navidi, Tipruric, Faletau, Stander, Doris

SH: Murray, Youngs, Davies
FH: Sexton, Russell, Biggar

Centres: Henshaw, Harris, Farrell, Slade/Tuilagi/Joseph, JD2
Back 3: Hogg, L Williams, LRZ, May, Watson, VDM

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Post by flyhalffactory Wed 31 Mar 2021, 2:10 pm

In my opinion

Got Tickets
1. Hogg
2. Watson
3. Fagerson Z
4. Sutherland

In the free bar area
5. Russell
6. Ritchie

In the departure lounge
7. DVDM
8. J Gray
9. Harris
10. Redpath

Had an email that there's a possible flight out to SA
Maitland
Jones
Price
Fagerson
McInally
Turner
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Post by WELL-PAST-IT Thu 01 Apr 2021, 8:35 am

If the rumours are correct, Marler may have other things to do. Now that the BeeB have sacked all the Question of Sport team, he is s a favourite to take Dawson's place.
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Post by doctor_grey Thu 01 Apr 2021, 10:50 am

WELL-PAST-IT wrote:If the rumours are correct, Marler may have other things to do. Now that the BeeB have sacked all the Question of Sport team, he is s a favourite to take Dawson's place.
He would really be great. Would certainly like to see him give it a go.

However, my preference for his post-Rugby career is we train him up, get him some reps and then make him PM.

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Post by LordDowlais Thu 01 Apr 2021, 11:35 am

WELL-PAST-IT wrote:If the rumours are correct, Marler may have other things to do. Now that the BeeB have sacked all the Question of Sport team, he is s a favourite to take Dawson's place.

What have they been sacked for ?

Is this Top Gear all over again ?

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu 01 Apr 2021, 11:52 am

If you don’t give Barker what she wants, the fists come out

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Post by westisbest Thu 01 Apr 2021, 10:29 pm

Furlong, Beirne, Henderson, Connors, VDF, Ryan.
Murray, Sexton, Henshaw, Earls.


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Post by Mr Bounce Thu 01 Apr 2021, 11:40 pm

I'm going to have a crack at all 4, because I like to live dangerously. I have also chucked in a super-sub, in case of injuries (lots)

England (most of the Sarries boys can have a rest)

1. Cowan-Dickie
2. Sinckler
3. Itoje
4. Launchbury
5. Curry
6. Underhill
7. S Simmonds
8. Ford
9. May
10. Watson

Supersub: Slade

For Wales:

1. Wyn Jones
2. Owens
3. AWJ
4. Navidi
5. Tipuric
6. Faletau
7. Gareth Davies
8. Biggar
9. LRZ
10. Liam Williams

Supersub: Moriarty - for running hard and tackling big Boks all day.

Ireland:

1. Healy
2. Porter
3. Furlong
4. Ryan
5. Beirne
6. Stander
7. Murray
8. Sexton
9. Henshaw
10. Ringrose

Supersub: Connors

Scotland:

1. Sutherland
2. McInally
3. Cummings
4. Ritchie
5. Watson
6. Price
7. Russell
8. Redpath
9. Harris
10. Hogg

Supersub: Van Der Merwe

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