England v USA - July 4th...USA independence day....

Teams...

England
1 Genge
2 Langdon,
3 Heyes,
4 McInally,
5 Ewels,
6 Ludlow, (Captain)
7 Underhill,
8 Chick,

9 Randall,
10 Smith,
11 Malins,
12Lawrence,
13 Slade,
14 Cokanasiga,
15 Steward

Subs
Blamire, Obano, Davidson, Hill, B Curry, Ludlum, Robson, Umaga

United States team:

1. David Ainu'u - Toulouse (FRA) - 9 caps
2. Mikey Sosene-Feagai - Old Glory DC - 5 caps
3. Paul Mullen - Utah Warriors - 18 caps
4. Gregory Peterson - Newcastle Falcons (ENG) - 30 caps
5. Nick Civetta - Rugby United New York - 26 caps
6. Jamason Fa'anana-Schultz - Old Glory DC - 2 caps
7. Riekert Hattingh - Seattle Seawolves - Uncapped
8. Cam Dolan - NOLA Gold - 51 caps
9. Ruben de Haas - Austin Gilgronis - 17 caps
10. Luke Carty - LA Giltinis - Uncapped
11. Mika Kruse - Utah Warriors - Uncapped
12. Bryce Campbell - Austin Gilgronis - 32 caps
13. Marcel Brache - Western Force (AUS) - 23 caps
14. Mikey Te'o - Utah Warriors - 28 caps
15. Will Hooley - Saracens (ENG) - 15 caps

Subs
16. Joe Taufete'e - Lyon (FRA) - 27 caps
17. Matt Harmon - NOLA Gold - Uncapped
18. Dino Waldren - NOLA Gold - 19 caps
19. Nate Brakeley - Rugby United New York - 23 caps
20. Psalm Wooching - San Diego Legion - 4 caps
21. Hanco Germishuys - Rugby United New York - 21 caps
22. Michael Baska - Utah Warriors - Uncapped
23. Calvin Whiting - Utah Warriors - 1 cap

Just snuck a peek at the AB-Tonga match.  Twenty minutes to go and the ABs have put 70+ on Tonga.  Totally disrespectful, just kick back and let them have a chance.  Practice defense, even.  But this mismatch could also be England-USA/Canada.

EDIT: 80+ at 65 minutes.

doctor_grey wrote:Just snuck a peek at the AB-Tonga match.  Twenty minutes to go and the ABs have put 70+ on Tonga.  Totally disrespectful, just kick back and let them have a chance.  Practice defense, even.  But this mismatch could also be England-USA/Canada.

EDIT:  80+ at 65 minutes.

I’d be surprised if the England match is that much of a blowout. Unlike the ABs, this is a very experimental England side - a lot of combinations that haven’t been tried before. Admittedly the US are missing probably their best 3 or 4 players, which makes it a bit more one sided, but I would expect them to put up more resistance than a depleted Tonga against a near-full strength New Zealand.

Wales 68- Canada 12. This is about what I expect from England-USA. Though I hope the Americans do put up some points.

Oh boy this presenter is dreadful. Monye is OK but Goode has all the charisma of a dead dog.

Thankfully the presenter isn't commentating...

Randall causing his own team a few concerns straight away lol

Mr Bounce wrote:Oh boy this presenter is dreadful. Monye is OK but Goode has all the charisma of a dead dog.

Thankfully the presenter isn't commentating...

It's the female commentator that does my head in...

I kind of wish there was an option to watch without commentary

Malins looking good

Nice try

I'm not sure what Heyes did wrong there the USA loosehead folded like a deckchair. Easy try from the kickoff, Malins with a great take.

Randall and Smith just need to adapt and move away from taking chances to playing with certainty. Young lads on debut they'll grow into this.

I wish that for nearly every sporting event!

Firm response from England after that early penalty.

Good from Malins, but poor from the US winger.

6-2 bench doesn't look too clever now...

Oh dear...malins off already

Awful missed tackle by Ludlow on the winger...

How can the commentators not tell the difference between Heyes and Langdon, the white scrum cap makes it blindingly obvious.

Nice try...

Cheeky ha ha

Gratuitous butt shot!

Good passing in the build up.

Like a flash...

Steward going to have to go off for a HIA here I suspect.

Not a red for me, he was going for the ball.

Wow Brace is an awful ref. That was extremely dangerous.

It was a penalty though, strange decision...

Bizarre refereeing...but it's Brace.

Irrelevant of whether he gets the ball he grabs Steward in the air and throws him to floor so he lands head first. Incompetent reffing, there has to be a duty of care.

Might have to put the mute button on...

Scrum decisions are odd and the commentatirs are dumb

Steward is mpressing me...

Nice.

It looks like Steward has shifted to the wing?

Really clever play from Randall.

If a female player had her shorts pulled down would the TV company show it over and over?

All the backs are looking good. Slade has been the quietest. Forwards more mixed.

Ludlow almost anonymous. Underhill so much better.

Underhill should be on the Lions tour.

Cumbrian wrote:Nice.

It looks like Steward has shifted to the wing?

Lawrence is on the left wing with Umaga at 12 and Slade at 13. The midfield isn't quite ticking and Smith has ran down a couple of blind alleys. He needs to stop trying to force things.

I don't really understand Ludlow's place in the squad, I'd be amazed if he ever troubled a full strength EPS.

Its not always easy but the hooker doesn't look like he knows what he's doing either, although his throws have been fine.

Big Joe looking like a different player, Hooper is suffocating him at Bath.

Hooper out

Big Joe is most definitely back thougth

Great play by Smith..

That's why Eddie wants big Joe back on form

Can we mute the woman commentary?

She is awful. Over the top joy.

Lawrence looks sparked out.

Well end up with Trevir Davison on the wing shortly

6-2 split doesn't work if you pick up injuries to the backs then.

This is why I hate 6-2 splits

I don't want to go on about it, but this really is daft. What was the need for this bench? Back play is essentially knackered for the rest of the game.

She is obsessed with cheeks. Imagine if a male commentator got that excited at Wimbledon during a woman's game!

GeordieFalcon wrote:Great play by Smith..

That's why Eddie wants big Joe back on form

That's where you want Smith, don't force it just take it to the line and use your backs. He has all the skills to find a hole and make the pass. Just back himself and England will score lots.

So what new excuses will Brace come up with to pretend the England scrum is not destroying the Eagles