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Post by RDW Sun 12 Sep 2021, 11:07 am

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Post by Old Man Sat 25 Sep 2021, 10:37 am

ebop wrote:Old Man, what can I say, you guys are better than that and you fricken know it. Seems there is zero faith in being able to hold the ball and the SA game plan is literally reduced to a lottery with the high ball. Mate, I didn’t enjoy that game one bit as it wasn’t a battle. The ABs, well, they won, but did they?

Scoreboard says the AB's won, at least they tried to play rugby.

I am told it is in our DNA.

Other than that I have no more comments.

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Post by TightHEAD Sat 25 Sep 2021, 10:45 am

So that's all done and dusted. Now it's time for World rugby to throw the book at Rassie.
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Post by ebop Sat 25 Sep 2021, 11:00 am

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ebop wrote:Old Man, what can I say, you guys are better than that and you fricken know it. Seems there is zero faith in being able to hold the ball and the SA game plan is literally reduced to a lottery with the high ball. Mate, I didn’t enjoy that game one bit as it wasn’t a battle. The ABs, well, they won, but did they?

Scoreboard says the AB's won, at least they tried to play rugby.

I am told it is in our DNA.

Other than that I have no more comments.
Tried? The ABs execution was abysmal, horrible. Both teams failed to deliver. Hard aggressive dominating controlling rugby with flashes of brilliance is my stereotype of SA rugby. That’s the DNA imo, it can be frustrating being dominated, but I respect it and expect a battle. But it’s not there at the moment with this game plan for whatever reason. The kicking and reliance on slowing the game down has gone too far and it’s got to the point where SA don’t seem to be able to construct a try for fear of losing the ball. Dunno, that game was frustrating due to poor skills execution from both teams, both should be better.
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Post by RDW Sat 25 Sep 2021, 11:29 am

Kerevi running rampant for the Wallabies.

What a coup it was to get him back in a Wallabies jersey!

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Post by RDW Sat 25 Sep 2021, 11:57 am

Wallabies looking comfortable 17-3 HT.

It's fair to say that Argentina have really added very little this Rugby Championship so far.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 25 Sep 2021, 12:05 pm

I wonder what the impact of the demise of Super Rugby Jaguares has on the Pumas team.

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Post by RDW Sat 25 Sep 2021, 12:14 pm

Thought that was worth a look from the TMO - Argentina player looked to charge into a prone Nick White in the ruck before the penalty was called.

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Post by RDW Sat 25 Sep 2021, 12:39 pm

Fair to say Wallabies v Argentina isn't much of a classic so far either.

Strange decision from Australia to go for the posts when they were 9 points and a man up.

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Post by RDW Sat 25 Sep 2021, 12:59 pm

Comfortable 27-8 win for the Wallabies in what was a pretty poor
quality game. Not that the Wallabies will care - first time winning 3 in a row in 4 years.

They did play like headless chickens when trying to get the 4th try though.

As for Argentina, I really don't know what their style of play is meant to be. They're just 'meh' in everything right now.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 25 Sep 2021, 2:07 pm

Dont think I've seen a NZ back 3 play as badly as that ever. Closely followed by Perenara and Barrett. But Jesus SA like to kick dont they. Surely they have to start passing soon?

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Post by Old Man Sat 25 Sep 2021, 2:40 pm

Nienaber doesn't believe in the pass, if you can't get foot to ball, you must go down in the tackle

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Post by No 7&1/2 Thu 30 Sep 2021, 8:44 am

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/58745221

Another bunch of idiots.

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Post by RDW Thu 30 Sep 2021, 8:58 am

No 7&1/2 wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/58745221

Another bunch of idiots.

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Seriously how could this actually happen? They've been in Australia long enough to know the rules, and surely the team manager of all people should have known they couldn't do that!

They maybe didn't realise Byron Bay was in NSW given it is only an hour from Gold Coast, but it's still not an excuse.

This could get real messy for them as they won't be able to join up with the squad any time soon. Or indeed be able to fly home with the team, and there'll be no flights to Argentina from Sydney right now!

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Post by ebop Thu 30 Sep 2021, 9:57 pm

Crazy. They’ve ‘checked out’ as they’ve been pretty underwhelming this RC. Sure they’ve been away from home a while, and I bet that’s hard, but it would have been nice of them to show a bit of professionalism.
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Post by westisbest Sat 02 Oct 2021, 8:39 am

Try Australia. Argentina down to 14

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Post by RDW Sat 02 Oct 2021, 8:45 am

Australia pretty inaccurate so far. Argentina again not really offering anything with the ball.

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Post by westisbest Sat 02 Oct 2021, 8:46 am

Good try from Kellaway

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Post by RDW Sat 02 Oct 2021, 8:47 am

The game desperately needed that 2nd try - great set piece attacking play from the Wallabies.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 02 Oct 2021, 8:57 am

I don't quite get the SH reffing at times. Aus 3 shoulder charges the Arg 9...no attempt of a wrap, smashes him. Nothing at all....not even discussed on the replays.

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Post by bsando Sat 02 Oct 2021, 8:59 am

Really excited to see the Wallabies tour this Autumn, they're going to force a looser game which could mean some very entertaining matches. Cooper vs Russell and Smith is going to be highly entertaining match up. Roll on Novemeber!

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Post by RDW Sat 02 Oct 2021, 9:15 am

I can't wait to see the Wallabies test themselves in the NH. The game v Scotland should be entertainingly - both teams have a similar style.

Argentina in trouble here - this could be a long half if they don't pick things up.

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Post by RDW Sat 02 Oct 2021, 9:22 am

Australia getting very loose again - I'd like to see them really turn the screw instead of trying to play Barbarians rugby. The same thing happened last week trying to chase the 4th try - they were throwing miracle passes instead of building the score.

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Post by RDW Sat 02 Oct 2021, 9:25 am

Would be a huge blow if Kerevi is badly injured - he's made a huge difference and they need him for the NH teams.

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Post by Old Man Sat 02 Oct 2021, 10:06 am

Decent result for the Wallabies considering they played all their matches at home.

I think they will do well in Europe this November

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Post by RDW Sat 02 Oct 2021, 10:08 am

First Wallaby team to win 4 in a row. Yes it was all at home but that was SA X2 and Argentina x2 on the back of 3 Tests against the ABs.

Big expectation for the autumn tests.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 02 Oct 2021, 11:13 am

Gee, that pass from Am was magic Rugby Championship 2021 - Page 3 1f602

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Post by RDW Sat 02 Oct 2021, 11:16 am

These Boks need to reign it in a bit eh - this isn't 7s! Very Happy

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Post by RDW Sat 02 Oct 2021, 11:21 am

Hell of a game this!

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Post by RDW Sat 02 Oct 2021, 11:29 am

This is the most attacking the Boks have been in a long time. There's actually been multi-phase attack - not set it up, kick and repeat.

Great to see!

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Post by RDW Sat 02 Oct 2021, 11:56 am

Absolutely crazy first half.

Boks replace their entire front row with 90s before HT!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 02 Oct 2021, 12:06 pm

Another good game....when NZ turn it on though, so good.

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Post by RDW Sat 02 Oct 2021, 12:16 pm

Boks really aren't ones for momentum are they. Pounding the NZ line, gaining a few penalties, ref probably thinking yellow soon - go for 3 points...

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Post by RDW Sat 02 Oct 2021, 12:25 pm

50-22 is a great addition!

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Post by RDW Sat 02 Oct 2021, 12:34 pm

Boks playing with so much intensity - ABs completely on the ropes. I'd love to see the penalty count as ABs will be way in front.

If SA could play like this for 80 minutes no one could live with them.

ABs have barely had the ball!

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Post by RDW Sat 02 Oct 2021, 1:09 pm

Absolutely incredible test match! So much intensity and drama. If SA had lost that they would have been absolutely gutted - they completely dominated the game.

There were so many penalties in that last 10 minutes and a lot of them were borderline. You could ask if we really want that to be deciding games, but it was so dramatic who cares!

That was such a dominant performance by the Boks though - ABs soft underbelly once again exposed. I'm absolutely amazed NZ didn't find a way to protect their ruck ball more all game. Also with 30s to go and a well set up pod you really shouldn't be getting turned over!

Great drama and entertainment.


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Post by ebop Sat 02 Oct 2021, 1:09 pm

Well done SA, that was a proper game.
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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 02 Oct 2021, 1:12 pm

Great game.

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Post by Rugby Fan Sat 02 Oct 2021, 1:53 pm

It's a lot of fun watching the last six minutes of this South African fan doing a live commentary of the match (no footage of the match, just him freaking out).


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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 02 Oct 2021, 4:54 pm

RDW wrote:50-22 is a great addition!

No! It's aim was to encourage ball in hand play supposedly, if that's the case it's failed.

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Post by protea438 Sun 03 Oct 2021, 11:08 am

Old Man wrote:
ebop wrote:Old Man, what can I say, you guys are better than that and you fricken know it. Seems there is zero faith in being able to hold the ball and the SA game plan is literally reduced to a lottery with the high ball. Mate, I didn’t enjoy that game one bit as it wasn’t a battle. The ABs, well, they won, but did they?

Scoreboard says the AB's won, at least they tried to play rugby.

I am told it is in our DNA.

Other than that I have no more comments.

Yeah right , goes against all this whining about style of play even if the Boks win by 1 point. Typical no show when they performed well. I guess typical South African 'supporter' and I use that word very loosely. Boks dont need supporters like that

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Post by Old Man Sun 03 Oct 2021, 1:50 pm

And what kind of "supporter" is that?

Which kind of supporter are you? The kind that blindly follows the game plan and believe in the "toe the party line"?

I have been a critic of my Bok team forever, I have also been a supporter of my bok team forever.

Did you know?

Jake White had a fantastic record in his first two years, his win rate was close to 70%, then in the last two years before he won the world cup his win rate dropped dramatically.

The same happened under Mallett, Heyneke Meyer, Pieter de Villiers and as we all know under Coetzee we were terrible.

Every professional era Springbok coach falters in year three.

Have you figured it out yet?

Because they don't evolve.

I f you are happy to blindly follow the Boks, then that is your prerogative, I expect more, and I demand more. that is the kind of supporter I am.

Enjoy your bubble of blissful ignorance or acceptance, whichever you prefer.

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Post by Pal Joey Mon 04 Oct 2021, 10:35 am

RDW wrote:First Wallaby team to win 4 in a row.  Yes it was all at home but that was SA X2 and Argentina x2 on the back of 3 Tests against the ABs.

Big expectation for the autumn tests.

Since 2017 that is. They've won 4 in a row plenty of times.
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Post by mikey_dragon Mon 04 Oct 2021, 10:44 am

Pal Joey wrote:
RDW wrote:First Wallaby team to win 4 in a row.  Yes it was all at home but that was SA X2 and Argentina x2 on the back of 3 Tests against the ABs.

Big expectation for the autumn tests.

Since 2017 that is. They've won 4 in a row plenty of times.

Always going to be a difficult task if you play NZ and SA often.

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Post by Pal Joey Mon 04 Oct 2021, 10:53 am

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RDW wrote:First Wallaby team to win 4 in a row.  Yes it was all at home but that was SA X2 and Argentina x2 on the back of 3 Tests against the ABs.

Big expectation for the autumn tests.

Since 2017 that is. They've won 4 in a row plenty of times.

Always going to be a difficult task if you play NZ and SA often.

Indeed.

Or RDW could just mean the Rugby Championship or Tri Nations (since 1996) where winning 2 or 3 in a row was a decent achievement for the Wallabies who have only won those trophies 4 times. The same as SA.
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Post by protea438 Thu 07 Oct 2021, 2:25 pm

Old Man wrote:And what kind of "supporter" is that?

Which kind of supporter are you? The kind that blindly follows the game plan and believe in the "toe the party line"?

I have been a critic of my Bok team forever, I have also been a supporter of my bok team forever.

Did you know?

Jake White had a fantastic record in his first two years, his win rate was close to 70%, then in the last two years before he won the world cup his win rate dropped dramatically.

The same happened under Mallett, Heyneke Meyer, Pieter de Villiers and as we all know under Coetzee we were terrible.

Every professional era Springbok coach falters in year three.

Have you figured it out yet?

Because they don't evolve.

I f you are happy to blindly follow the Boks, then that is your prerogative, I expect more, and I demand more. that is the kind of supporter I am.

Enjoy your bubble of blissful ignorance or acceptance, whichever you prefer.

Lame comeback, its simple case of using ones brains, typical complain about everything but disappear when there is something positive or a decent performance, but suppose there was not enough no look passes for you

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Post by Old Man Thu 07 Oct 2021, 2:43 pm

protea438 wrote:
Old Man wrote:And what kind of "supporter" is that?

Which kind of supporter are you? The kind that blindly follows the game plan and believe in the "toe the party line"?

I have been a critic of my Bok team forever, I have also been a supporter of my bok team forever.

Did you know?

Jake White had a fantastic record in his first two years, his win rate was close to 70%, then in the last two years before he won the world cup his win rate dropped dramatically.

The same happened under Mallett, Heyneke Meyer, Pieter de Villiers and as we all know under Coetzee we were terrible.

Every professional era Springbok coach falters in year three.

Have you figured it out yet?

Because they don't evolve.

I f you are happy to blindly follow the Boks, then that is your prerogative, I expect more, and I demand more. that is the kind of supporter I am.

Enjoy your bubble of blissful ignorance or acceptance, whichever you prefer.

Lame comeback, its simple case of using ones brains, typical complain about everything but disappear when there is something positive or a decent performance, but suppose there was not enough no look passes for you

Get over yourself, nobdy commented on the thread so there was nothing to discuss.

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