England: Autumn Internationals

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England squad for autumn Tests:

Forwards: Jamie Blamire (Newcastle), Callum Chick (Newcastle), Jamie George (Saracens), Tom Curry (Sale), Trevor Davison (Newcastle), Nic Dolly (Leicester), Alex Dombrandt (Harlequins), Charlie Ewels (Bath), Ellis Genge (Leicester), Jonny Hill (Exeter), Maro Itoje (Saracens), Courtney Lawes (Northampton), Lewis Ludlam (Northampton), Joe Marler (Harlequins), George Martin (Leicester), Sam Simmonds (Exeter), Kyle Sinckler (Bristol), Will Stuart (Bath), Sam Underhill (Bath)

Backs: Mark Atkinson (Gloucester), Owen Farrell (Saracens), Tommy Freeman (Northampton), George Furbank (Northampton), Max Malins (Saracens), Jonny May (Gloucester), Raffi Quirke (Sale), Adam Radwan (Newcastle), Harry Randall (Bristol), Henry Slade (Exeter), Marcus Smith (Harlequins), Freddie Steward (Leicester), Manu Tuilagi (Sale), Joe Marchant (Quins), Ben Youngs (Leicester)

In Positions:
1.Marler, Genge
2.George, Blamire, Dolly
3.Sinckler, Stuart, Davison
4.Itoje, Hill
5.Lawes, Ewels
6.Curry, Martin
7.Underhill, Ludlam
8.Dombrandt, Simmonds, Chick

9.Youngs, Randall, Quirke
10.Smith

11.May, Radwan
12.Farrell, Atkinson
13.Tuilagi, Slade
14.Freeman, Marchant
15.Steward, Malins, Furbank
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England v Tonga - 6th November
England v Australia - 13th November
England v South Africa - 20th November

Faz ruled out.

Furbank starting at 10 - Smith surely not fully fit!

Lawes skippering. Personally would have gone with Itoje or Curry.

king_carlos wrote:Faz ruled out.

Furbank starting at 10 - Smith surely not fully fit!

Lawes skippering. Personally would have gone with Itoje or Curry.

If he's not fit whys he on the bench though. If Furbanknis injured after a minute what happens.

No 7&1/2 wrote:

king_carlos wrote:Faz ruled out.

Furbank starting at 10 - Smith surely not fully fit!

Lawes skippering. Personally would have gone with Itoje or Curry.

If he's not fit whys he on the bench though. If Furbanknis injured after a minute what happens.

I'm not picking the side pal. I'd have Ford in the 23 with Smith and Farrell starting at 10 and 12 with everyone fit. To me the tactical difference Ford's control can offer from the bench is worth having in the matchday squad even with Smith starting. Especially with the 50-22 rule changing how sides defend the back field.

A general question which is just baffling me. Would have 3 tens in the match day squad myself. Oh well we wait for Smith in the 2nd half.

If Smith is fir he has to start. I am sure Furbank has enjoyed little more training at 10 than Smith has this week. We will just kill time until Smith arrives.

I think they are planning on Smith starting the next 2 tests and want to protect him today.

If Farrell is isolating for 10 days they have to bring Ford back into the squad surely

yappysnap wrote:

aucklandlaurie wrote:

yappysnap wrote:Also does anyone know of any streams for this? Annoyingly even though I have prime TV the games aren't covered in NZ

There is a replay on Sunday at 6:00pm on Sky sports 1. I presume this game clashes with as ABs v Italy. You will find all /most of the other games are broadcast live.

Sweet cheers

Its live Sky Sports 5.

Is the game being telly vised i cannot find it on any channel?

Amazon Prime

majesticimperialman wrote:Is the game being telly vised i cannot find it on any channel?

I wonder what google is for?

Well apart from the obvious, I want yo see Johnny Hill really put a marker down today....IF hes going to keep hold of that dhirt

Get in Radderz

Bright start from England. On the brief replay it looked a lot like Furbank was obstructing the defenders coming across though!

Just nice seeing Tuilagi there and doing all the small things well

Good maul

king_carlos wrote:Bright start from England. On the brief replay it looked a lot like Furbank was obstructing the defenders coming across though!

Yeah I was waiting on the TMO to call us back for that.

The talk about Furbank running at 10 during the well might have been overhyped. Youngs is constantly having to look for him and the backs moves look a little stilted. None of it looks like someone who's been given the minutes to make sure stepping in his seemless. Hopefully he grows into the game and the familiarisation comes.

And that is what Steward is for

lostinwales wrote:And that is what Steward is for

He'll catch then all day. No idea why Curry then concedes a penalty trying to shield him.

Nice break. Ran completely away from everyone though.

Finally nice.

Steward has started brightly both in defence and attack.

Steward, Radwan and May look really good together as a back three.

king_carlos wrote:Steward, Radwan and May look really good together as a back three.

They do indeed. Radwan is working very hard

Steward is looking very good. The future and present right there

Ah that's not a penalty...come on

GeordieFalcon wrote:Steward is looking very good. The future and present right there

He's doing Steward things. Nothing fancy just all the bits you want him to do to give confidence and space to his back three. His big tests are still to come but it's a good start so far.

Very nice offload by Genge.

God I love Tuilagi, yes it's only Tonga but still.

Harsh yellow

Soul Requiem wrote:God I love Tuilagi, yes it's only Tonga but still.

Weve been robbed of him for too many time....

GeordieFalcon wrote:Harsh yellow

Been that law for a fair while now.

No 7&1/2 wrote:

GeordieFalcon wrote:Harsh yellow

Been that law for a fair while now.

I know but I think he was challenging for the ball...albeit a bit clumsily. Never a yellow card imo

With how those contests are now reffed it's not inconsistent to be yellow card but I've got to agree with Veainu that his eyes are on the ball. It's not like Daly's red card against Argentina when he took his eyes off the ball, over ran, wasn't even off the ground and wipes out the man in the air. Kata's eyes are on the ball and he is trying to compete, May has just completely beaten him by getting higher then they collide.

I'm not sure it was a genuine attempt for the ball, he would have known May was getting there first.

Wow Lawes

I make that the first ruck Lawes has been involved in. Great chasing back though.

Outstanding by Lawes.

Courtney, Courtney, Courtney.

Steward seemed to get there a touch early and couldn't line him up properly.

What a tackle from Lawes! Awful defending from Steward, Lawes really saved his bacon.

For those questioning the pace of Steward he got back to TV there. Only managed to slow him down for Lawes to complete the job but catching TV is still a good effort. TV has pace for days and the step is still devastating, glad to see that he's still got it always been a player that's great to watch.

Sgt_Pooly wrote:What a tackle from Lawes! Awful defending from Steward, Lawes really saved his bacon.

Same player has just left Underhill requiring medical treatment after stepping him in a space similar to a phone box.

formerly known as Sam wrote:For those questioning the pace of Steward he got back to TV there. Only managed to slow him down for Lawes to complete the job but catching TV is still a good effort. TV has pace for days and the step is still devastating, glad to see that he's still got it always been a player that's great to watch.

He was coming across on an angle, My gran wouls have caught TV there. She'd have made a better attempt at a tackle too!

Apart from that, Steward has looked solid though. Furbank surprising a better 10 than 15 too!

formerly known as Sam wrote:

Sgt_Pooly wrote:What a tackle from Lawes! Awful defending from Steward, Lawes really saved his bacon.

Same player has just left Underhill requiring medical treatment after stepping him in a space similar to a phone box.

Can always count on you and those Tigers tinted glasses Sam!

Sgt_Pooly wrote:

formerly known as Sam wrote:For those questioning the pace of Steward he got back to TV there. Only managed to slow him down for Lawes to complete the job but catching TV is still a good effort. TV has pace for days and the step is still devastating, glad to see that he's still got it always been a player that's great to watch.

He was coming across on an angle, My gran wouls have caught TV there. She'd have made a better attempt at a tackle too!

Apart from that, Steward has looked solid though. Furbank surprising a better 10 than 15 too!

Did well to slow him for me. And I disagree on Furbank good running ball in hand everything else suggests he's not a fly half for me.

A good try to round off a strong half for Youngs.

I've thought that Fubank has done pretty well overall, albeit with an armchair ride!

Hopefully Dombrandt can get on fairly early in the second half given the way they are dominating. I'd probably get Blamire and Stuart on early too so they get a chance.

No 7&1/2 wrote:

Sgt_Pooly wrote:

formerly known as Sam wrote:For those questioning the pace of Steward he got back to TV there. Only managed to slow him down for Lawes to complete the job but catching TV is still a good effort. TV has pace for days and the step is still devastating, glad to see that he's still got it always been a player that's great to watch.

He was coming across on an angle, My gran wouls have caught TV there. She'd have made a better attempt at a tackle too!

Apart from that, Steward has looked solid though. Furbank surprising a better 10 than 15 too!

Did well to slow him for me. And I disagree on Furbank good running ball in hand everything else suggests he's not a fly half for me.

I never suggested he was a good 10....just better than at 15

Sgt_Pooly wrote:

formerly known as Sam wrote:

Sgt_Pooly wrote:What a tackle from Lawes! Awful defending from Steward, Lawes really saved his bacon.

Same player has just left Underhill requiring medical treatment after stepping him in a space similar to a phone box.

Can always count on you and those Tigers tinted glasses Sam!

I sometimes wonder if there's an alternative universe where Northampton rather than Tigers kept poaching Falcons players a few years back leading to a poster called General_Dooly on 707v2 slagging off every Saints player that comes near the England squad...

Given TV's rep I wouldn't mark Steward down too much for missing him. That tackle by Lawes was a bit special.

Manu is looking very slim and is playing very well. He and Slade are switching between 12 and 13 as before.

Curry is doing good things but he's not Billy by any means

It has to be said it wasn't great from Steward and i'd want my full back making the tackle not relying on someone else to do it. If that was Daly we'd all be rightfully admonishing him.

Well I think Steward has been EXACTLY what I hoped for in his first meaningful start for England.

The Rock at the back who has quick hands and an improving attack.