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Post by neilthom7 Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:19 am

First topic message reminder :

Already 5 games in, doesn't time just fly.

All games on Premier Sports, SuperSport, URC Tv and Discovery Plus.

Friday 14th October 2022

Ospreys v DHL Stormers- Swansea.com Stadium, Swansea – KO 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA & SA- BBC Wales
Connacht v Leinster- The Sportsground, Galway – KO 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA & SA- RTÉ


Saturday 15th October 2022

Emirates Lions v Ulster- Emirates Airline Park, Johannesburg – KO 13.00 IRE & UK / 14.00 ITA & SA
Cell C Sharks v Glasgow Warriors- Hollywoodbets Kings Park, Durban – KO 15.05 IRE & UK / 16.05 ITA & SA
Edinburgh Rugby v Benetton- The DAM Health Stadium, Edinburgh – KO 17.15 IRE & UK / 18.15 ITA & SA- Eurosport
Cardiff Rugby v Dragons RFC- Cardiff Arms Park, Cardiff – KO 17.15 IRE & UK / 18.15 ITA & SA
Scarlets v Zebre Parma- Parc y Scarlets, Llanelli – KO 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA & SA- S4C
Munster v Vodacom Bulls- Thomond Park, Limerick – KO 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA & SA- TG4

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Post by thebandwagonsociety Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:47 am

PhilBB wrote:
thebandwagonsociety wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
thebandwagonsociety wrote:Is ESPN at war with URC?
https://www.espn.com/rugby/scoreboard?date=20221014
Now fixtures or results seem to exist in the world of ESPN for the URC.

It's a real loss.

URC = Best League, of course.

The forgotten league more like it. Don't know what ESPN are up to.
I'm glad Phil that you approve of the URC but asserting that it's the Best League might be a step too far. What criteria are you applying to this claim?

The claim is a massive Mickey take of many who hold that view.

Is that so Champ?

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Post by PhilBB Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:16 am

thebandwagonsociety wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
thebandwagonsociety wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
thebandwagonsociety wrote:Is ESPN at war with URC?
https://www.espn.com/rugby/scoreboard?date=20221014
Now fixtures or results seem to exist in the world of ESPN for the URC.

It's a real loss.

URC = Best League, of course.

The forgotten league more like it. Don't know what ESPN are up to.
I'm glad Phil that you approve of the URC but asserting that it's the Best League might be a step too far. What criteria are you applying to this claim?

The claim is a massive Mickey take of many who hold that view.

Is that so Champ?

Well, nobody sane could hold that view so how else could it be interpreted?
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Post by thebandwagonsociety Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:34 am

PhilBB wrote:
thebandwagonsociety wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
thebandwagonsociety wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
thebandwagonsociety wrote:Is ESPN at war with URC?
https://www.espn.com/rugby/scoreboard?date=20221014
Now fixtures or results seem to exist in the world of ESPN for the URC.

It's a real loss.

URC = Best League, of course.

The forgotten league more like it. Don't know what ESPN are up to.
I'm glad Phil that you approve of the URC but asserting that it's the Best League might be a step too far. What criteria are you applying to this claim?

The claim is a massive Mickey take of many who hold that view.

Is that so Champ?

Well, nobody sane could hold that view so how else could it be interpreted?

And is taking a massive Mickey out of the 'many who hold that view' something that makes you proud? Who are these many, Champ?

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Mon Oct 17, 2022 11:19 am

PhilBB wrote:
thebandwagonsociety wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
thebandwagonsociety wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
thebandwagonsociety wrote:Is ESPN at war with URC?
https://www.espn.com/rugby/scoreboard?date=20221014
Now fixtures or results seem to exist in the world of ESPN for the URC.

It's a real loss.

URC = Best League, of course.

The forgotten league more like it. Don't know what ESPN are up to.
I'm glad Phil that you approve of the URC but asserting that it's the Best League might be a step too far. What criteria are you applying to this claim?

The claim is a massive Mickey take of many who hold that view.

Is that so Champ?

Well, nobody sane could hold that view so how else could it be interpreted?
It's more sane than claiming the English prem was "thriving" like you did just a few weeks ago... Please don't act like you're the sane one here when it was so obvious how much the prem was struggling even before all these unfortunate events unfolded.

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Post by Pete330v2 Tue Oct 18, 2022 4:24 am

"Who are these many, Champ?"

The English call them the neighbours but others refer to them as the Welsh.

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Post by PhilBB Tue Oct 18, 2022 5:09 am

thebandwagonsociety wrote:

And is taking a massive Mickey out of the 'many who hold that view' something that makes you proud? Who are these many, Champ?

No, it makes me laugh.

It's quite the thing on Twitter. You should try it.
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Post by PhilBB Tue Oct 18, 2022 5:09 am

LeinsterFan4life wrote:
It's more sane than claiming the English prem was "thriving" like you did just a few weeks ago... Please don't act like you're the sane one here when it was so obvious how much the prem was struggling even before all these unfortunate events unfolded.

Where's the link to back up your claim?
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Post by PhilBB Tue Oct 18, 2022 5:10 am

Pete330v2 wrote:"Who are these many, Champ?"

The English call them the neighbours but others refer to them as the Welsh.

No, Peter, the Welsh don't claim "URC = best league". It's mostly an Irish and SA rugby twitter thing.

Happy to help.
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Post by LeinsterFan4life Tue Oct 18, 2022 6:00 am

PhilBB wrote:
LeinsterFan4life wrote:
It's more sane than claiming the English prem was "thriving" like you did just a few weeks ago... Please don't act like you're the sane one here when it was so obvious how much the prem was struggling even before all these unfortunate events unfolded.

Where's the link to back up your claim?
You're going to have to be more specific as always.

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Post by RugbyFan100 Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:58 am

The average debt of a URC team is likely to be the same as the average debt of an English team. But the sugar daddies of the URC teams have extremely deep pockets.

Lets also not forget that in very recent times, two of the current teams in the URC have had to be taken over by new owners in the event of financial emergencies. Both would have been in administration if not for being saved (but we don't hear much about this. Funny that)

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Post by PhilBB Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:01 am

LeinsterFan4life wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
LeinsterFan4life wrote:
It's more sane than claiming the English prem was "thriving" like you did just a few weeks ago... Please don't act like you're the sane one here when it was so obvious how much the prem was struggling even before all these unfortunate events unfolded.

Where's the link to back up your claim?
You're going to have to be more specific as always.

Where is the link to the post that supports your claim of "It's more sane than claiming the English prem was "thriving" like you did just a few weeks ago."?
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Post by PhilBB Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:02 am

RugbyFan100 wrote:The average debt of a URC team is likely to be the same as the average debt of an English team. But the sugar daddies of the URC teams have extremely deep pockets.

Lets also not forget that in very recent times, two of the current teams in the URC have had to be taken over by new owners in the event of financial emergencies. Both would have been in administration if not for being saved (but we don't hear much about this. Funny that)

Zebre and Dragons are first up against the CVC wall, I reckon.

Glasgow, Edinburgh and Dragons have been up for sale for 5 years plus. Worcester and Wasps both have potential new owners within weeks.

Again, that's not being mentioned here.

Munster can't afford to pay back the rest of Irish rugby more than €100k a year, allegedly.
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Post by RugbyFan100 Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:25 am

PhilBB wrote:
RugbyFan100 wrote:The average debt of a URC team is likely to be the same as the average debt of an English team. But the sugar daddies of the URC teams have extremely deep pockets.

Lets also not forget that in very recent times, two of the current teams in the URC have had to be taken over by new owners in the event of financial emergencies. Both would have been in administration if not for being saved (but we don't hear much about this. Funny that)

Zebre and Dragons are first up against the CVC wall, I reckon.

Glasgow, Edinburgh and Dragons have been up for sale for 5 years plus. Worcester and Wasps both have potential new owners within weeks.

Again, that's not being mentioned here.

Munster can't afford to pay back the rest of Irish rugby more than €100k a year, allegedly.

And Connacht, who must have lost tens of millions of Euros during their professional life, are being handed a spnaking new free stadium as a reward

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Post by PhilBB Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:55 am

RugbyFan100 wrote:
And Connacht, who must have lost tens of millions of Euros during their professional life, are being handed a spnaking new free stadium as a reward

But they obviously pay to rent that stadium from the Greyhound owners, right?

€20m from the Government.
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Post by RugbyFan100 Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:02 am

PhilBB wrote:
RugbyFan100 wrote:
And Connacht, who must have lost tens of millions of Euros during their professional life, are being handed a spnaking new free stadium as a reward

But they obviously pay to rent that stadium from the Greyhound owners, right?

€20m from the Government.

My team had to pay and loan money to build their stadium. £23m it cost us.

Connacht get a free one.
Munster can't pay back their refurb.
Another Irish province helped paid for theirs with UK taxpayers money.

Seems fair.

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Post by PhilBB Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:30 am

RugbyFan100 wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
RugbyFan100 wrote:
And Connacht, who must have lost tens of millions of Euros during their professional life, are being handed a spnaking new free stadium as a reward

But they obviously pay to rent that stadium from the Greyhound owners, right?

€20m from the Government.

My team had to pay and loan money to build their stadium. £23m it cost us.

Connacht get a free one.
Munster can't pay back their refurb.
Another Irish province helped paid for theirs with UK taxpayers money.

Seems fair.

The UK taxpayer gave the Ulster Branch a £14.7m freebie to upgrade its asset.
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Post by RugbyFan100 Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:54 am

PhilBB wrote:
RugbyFan100 wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
RugbyFan100 wrote:
And Connacht, who must have lost tens of millions of Euros during their professional life, are being handed a spnaking new free stadium as a reward

But they obviously pay to rent that stadium from the Greyhound owners, right?

€20m from the Government.

My team had to pay and loan money to build their stadium. £23m it cost us.

Connacht get a free one.
Munster can't pay back their refurb.
Another Irish province helped paid for theirs with UK taxpayers money.

Seems fair.

The UK taxpayer gave the Ulster Branch a £14.7m freebie to upgrade its asset.

Jesus Christ, I didn't know it was that much. All going to the IRFU technically. From the UK.

Why does nobody report this? It's nowhere near an even playing field.

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Post by neilthom7 Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:18 pm

Wait to you find out the government are also paying money from the UK to the GAA too, the injustice lol

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Post by Kingshu Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:34 pm

The money was from the Stormont executive, there was also over £60m for the redevelopment of Casement park, for another all ireland body, and £25m for Windsor Park, its scandalous that the Stormont Executive would invest in local infrastructure is it?

As for Connacht, its an investment, mosty paid for by the Large Scale Sports Infrastructure Fund.The strategic benefits of the project to the entire region are also closely aligned with the Government’s National Planning Framework, Project Ireland 2040 as well as the recently launched National Sports Policy, all of which highlight the need for a regional spread of capital investment throughout the country.

Don't know about having lost 10s of millions durning its life as independent economic research carried out in 2016, found that Connacht Rugby contributes €34.4 million to the regional economy. The delivery of this project will increase that contribution and provide a beacon for regional development in the West of Ireland.

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Post by RiscaGame Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:08 pm

I’m more than happy to just lock these threads down, because there are too many people who think it’s okay to act like whoppers on this forum. I’m fed up of having to trudge through pages of crap. It’s fair to assume most of you are adults, so act like it or I’ll start getting rid of you. This is a rugby discussion site, not have a childish dig at people site etc.

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