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Bruin will probably only be as good as the other 3 supporting props Newcastle will have. His minutes the past 3 seasons are not great though so that is a concern. He's only managed the following:-
105 mins 23/24
419 mins 22/23
261 mins 21/22
648 mins 20/21 - year he played for Leicester
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Injuries will have dropped his salary demands though. Bottom line is that with Falcons budget as it is, if de Bruin had made 20 apps a season for the last 3 years then Diamond wouldn't be able to sign him. 20 stone props that genuinely cover both sides aren't cheap unless there are caveats. For Luan, the caveat is the recent injuries. Without those, this contract should be the biggest of his career, likely at a strong Top 14 club.Geordie wrote:If he can stay fit KC...we need some bulk and power...so we'll see.
With the financial situation in the Prem as it is, most clubs will have to look at signings with those sorts of caveats as it's what they can afford. Falcons even more so.
Tigers are rumoured to be after Cabous Eloff for instance. He's a prop that plays both sides but his scrummaging is iffy (tall prop) and his average minutes played per match is under 30 for the last two seasons. Despite those caveats, I really want Eloff to be confirmed though as he is huge and gets over the gain line. Whilst Tigers have too frequently been dismal at making yards after contact this season.
Le Roux Roets at Sale probably a good example too. He's 29-years-old and has started 9 top level games (more in the Currie Cup of course). There's going to be significant work ons, especially with fitness. He's gigantic though and Sanderson has clearly just prioritised bulk over anything else with that signing. Locks that physical without the obvious issues would simply be too expensive for Sale in the current situation though.
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Diamond at Falcons will be desperate to get a much meaner and more experienced tight five in situ. If you can front up at set piece, in the tight exchanges and rolling maul time then it makes life easier.
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king_carlos wrote:Jordie Barrett joining Leinster from December until the end of 2024/25.
https://m.independent.ie/sport/rugby/all-black-star-jordie-barrett-in-sensational-move-to-leinster/a811675741.html
I thought it was a late April Fools originally but nope, in what is already an international backline they are going to try and cram Jordie Barrett as well. If they sign the Tongan Thor tighthead from Australia to go with Jordie and RG Snyman trying to select the 23 next season for the big game is going to be ridiculously hard.
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mikey_dragon wrote:Wow, big signing from Leinster. Maybe they won’t be caught after all. I wonder if they’re still going after Tupou.
Believe it is only short term but still wow.
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formerly known as Sam wrote:king_carlos wrote:Jordie Barrett joining Leinster from December until the end of 2024/25.
https://m.independent.ie/sport/rugby/all-black-star-jordie-barrett-in-sensational-move-to-leinster/a811675741.html
I thought it was a late April Fools originally but nope, in what is already an international backline they are going to try and cram Jordie Barrett as well. If they sign the Tongan Thor tighthead from Australia to go with Jordie and RG Snyman trying to select the 23 next season for the big game is going to be ridiculously hard.
Put him on the bench! Perfect 23.
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mikey_dragon wrote:Wow, big signing from Leinster. Maybe they won’t be caught after all. I wonder if they’re still going after Tupou.
You know they will be, it's actually a position they could do with another player unlike lock and centre/FB where they've just thrown around way over 500k Euros for next season on two players.
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carpet baboon wrote:Not bad bringing in Jordi Barrett for the business end of the season. Could have done with him up at Ulster if I'm honest
It might make the likes of Frawley or Byrne get itchy feet for more gametime
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Maine man wrote:carpet baboon wrote:Not bad bringing in Jordi Barrett for the business end of the season. Could have done with him up at Ulster if I'm honest
It might make the likes of Frawley or Byrne get itchy feet for more gametime
Well that could be a bonus for us
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1.Porter 2.Sheehan 3.Furlong 4.McCarthy 5.Snyman 6.Baird 7.JvdF 8.Doris
9.JGP 10.Byrne 11.Lowe 12.Henshaw 13.Ringrose 14.Jordie 15.Keenan
16.Kelleher 17.Healy 18.Tupou 19.Ryan 20.Connors 21.McGrath 22.Frawley 23.J O'Brien
Tupou is the signing I'd question. It undoubtedly strengthens them in the short term. If you're looking for a impact sub at TH to replace Furlong then Tupou is right up there with maybe Antonio and Malherbe. It would be ridiculous in terms of next seasons 23.
In terms of talent development, prop and scrum-half seem to be the two positions where Ireland need fresh players coming through? There's a gulf from JGP to the next SH now that Murray has slowed down. Whilst the Ireland props are generally a bit older. Bealham is actually older than Furlong. It therefore seems odd to take up the second spot in the Leinster 23 with a non-IQP TH.
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Agreed on Tupou that is complete short termism. I'm not convinced he's a particularly good scrummager but in the loose he's a wrecking ball.
It's pretty outrageous when the best 23 has no place for Conan an 8 that would walk into a lot of sides starting 15. Maybe he needs to follow in his coach's foot steps and spend a couple of years at Tigers increasing his profile...
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https://www.planetrugby.com/news/ex-all-blacks-coach-backs-league-superstar-to-effortlessly-switch-codes-after-million-dollar-move
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Does anybody outside of Japan actually watch the club rugby there? I'm not aware of it getting much international coverage which is a bit of a shame.
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Aidon Davis leaves Exeter to join Cheetahs in SA.
Ken Owens has retired through injury,
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Other coaches, staff members and "advisors" include people who have bounced around club and country set-ups in the north and south. You won't know all these names but you'll recognize some:
Dan Carter, Andy Ellis, Greig Laidlaw, Frans Ludeke, Ben Herring, Peter Hewat, C.J. Van Der Linde, Glenn Delaney, Ruaidhri Murphy, Matt Taylor, Joe Maddock, Nick Hensley, Wesley Clarke, Mike Blair, Nick Holten, Marius Goosen, Ben Franks, Ed Robinson (Andy's son), Russell Winter, Hugh Hogan, Ryan Martin, Nathan White, Boris Stankovich, Paul Feeney, Tusi Pisi, Matt Cockbain, etc etc
I've put home nations talent in bold (except Kiwi Ireland player Nathan White) to highlight how poor Northern hemisphere coaches have been at grabbing opportunities in Japan. This is a great environment to test out your coaching philosophies because you have teams composed of all kinds of nationalities and talents. With two premiership clubs going bust, and pressure on budgets everywhere, I expected to see a lot more people looking for jobs here.
The yen is weak now, so it's not a financial payday for all but the top names but it's still a job in professional rugby.
formerly known as Sam wrote:Does anybody outside of Japan actually watch the club rugby there? I'm not aware of it getting much international coverage which is a bit of a shame.
The audience outside Japan almost certainly consists of Japanese expats, family members of overseas players, and people who catch short clips on Tiktok.
There is a J Sports rugby YouTube Channel with League One highlights (Japanese commentary).
https://www.youtube.com/@jsportsrugby/videos
And a Japan League One channel with match highlights (Japanese commentary):
https://www.youtube.com/@LeagueOneChannel/videos
Sakura Rugby gives occasional full length match videos. The commentary is in Japanese but these can be easier to follow for non-Japanese speakers, as you can fast forward at your own pace. The video titles are also in English, so you know what you are watching without using an online translator.
https://www.youtube.com/@sakurarugby/videos
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geoff999rugby wrote:Ross Moloney to Bath - 3 year deal
Very under rated, often criticised for his lack of size.
I have seen him person, Im 6'4 and 105 kilos and this guy looked like a total monster beside me, enormous.
He has great hands, very good rugby mind, loves work. Good signing, I fear Leinster will miss him.
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Our other young 7 Marcus Tiffin has signed a full 2 year contract after finishing his Newcastle Uni Degree. Hes another very talented and physical young 7...and i think he will make Peppers departure much less felt.
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Geordie wrote:Falcons have signed Cameron Neild from Sale on a two year deal...
Handy player. A Steve Diamond favourite.
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Dimes comes in, slashes squad numbers down to a sort of 36-38 player goldilocks zone, signs very specific types of players and employs the exact same game plan. It must have been the shortest job interviews of all time at Worcester and Newcastle. "What's your vision Steve?". "Exactly what I did at Sale". "Anything new?". "Nope".
Given where Falcons have been, it'll probably see an improvement too!
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I wont complain if he has the same gameplan as the other sides hes managed...make KP a place teams leave either beaten, bruised or both...
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Always a top guy though and wish him all the best for the future. Great servant to Cardiff.
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Do you think he will go into coaching? He seems like one of those blokes who just understands rugby
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On other news Bradbury to Edinburgh has now been confirmed.
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Supposedly signed by Bordeaux for next season and I guess he is finally getting up to speed after the dislocated knee last season. Assume he will sign elsewhere for the stretch run.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2024/04/23/leicester-to-hire-attack-coach-peter-hewat-saints-defeat/
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Hazel Sapling wrote:Jonny Gray leaves Exeter with immediate effect
Supposedly signed by Bordeaux for next season and I guess he is finally getting up to speed after the dislocated knee last season. Assume he will sign elsewhere for the stretch run.
Yet to play this season, I presume he's just being released to join Bordeaux early so he can acclimatise and finish his rehab there ready for pre season.
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Seems like he hasn’t played for Stormers in a competitive game, but maybe a link to our new defence coach.
I want us to invest more in Westwood and Ackerman (plus Owen). But it’s better than Dai signing Scarlets old boys though, maybe.
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Not sure what Dai is doing at this point. We need like 7-8 front five forwards......Without that any other else is a waste of time. If he doesnt address the front 5 we simply wont have a platform to win games.
One thing the URC has shown this season if you dont have a solid front 5 you have no chance of making the top 8, no matter how good your backline is.
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Fact is the guy hasn’t played top level for ages.
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Looks like we have a new chairman as well now Buttress has stepped down...
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Geordie wrote:Falcons have signed 23 yesr old twin props Callum and Connor Hancock from Leeds Beckett Uni on a one year academy deal. Apparently they they have been training with us through out the year...so must have impressed Diamond.
Will diamond do the sneaky switcheroo at half time so it looks like the same prop is on but really it's his brother?
Clever man
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