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Post by bsando Sun 28 Jan 2024, 7:03 am

France vs Ireland
Guiness Six Nations 2024
Opening Match

Round One
Friday 2nd of February, 2024
Vélodrome Marseille
Kick Off 20:00 GMT

Referee: Karl Dickson (Eng)
ARs: Matthew Carley (Eng) & Jordan Way (Aus)
TMO: Ben Whitehouse (Wal)

TV Coverage ITV 1
Virgin Media (ROI)

Teams

France
T Ramos; D Penaud, G Fickou, J Danty, Y Moefana; M Jalibert, M Lucu; C Baille, P Mauvaka, U Atonio; P Gabrillagues, P Willemse; F Cros, C Ollivon, G Alldritt (capt).

Replacements: J Marchand, R Wardi, D Aldegheri, R Taofifenua, C Woki, P Boudehent, N Le Garrec, L Bielle-Biarrey.

Ireland
H Keenan; C Nash, R Henshaw, B Aki, J Lowe; J Crowley, J Gibson-Park; A Porter, D Sheehan, T Furlong; J McCarthy, T Beirne; P O'Mahony (capt), J van der Flier, C Doris.

Replacements: R Kelleher, C Healy, F Bealham, J Ryan, R Baird, J Conan, C Murray, C Frawley.


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Post by Maine man Sun 28 Jan 2024, 9:56 am

My guess at the Ireland team:
Porter, Sheehan, Furlong, Ryan, Beirne, O'mahony, VDF, Doris, Gibson-Park, Crowley, Lowe, Aki, Ringrose, Larmour, Keenan.
I hope they don't put Ringrose on the wing. If Nash was picked ahead of Larmour wouldn't bother me. As long as its one of them

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Post by Pete330v2 Mon 29 Jan 2024, 9:47 am

Maine man wrote:My guess at the Ireland team:
Porter, Sheehan, Furlong, Ryan, Beirne, O'mahony, VDF, Doris, Gibson-Park, Crowley,  Lowe, Aki, Ringrose, Larmour, Keenan.
I hope they don't put Ringrose on the wing. If Nash was picked ahead of Larmour wouldn't bother me. As long as its one of them

I'd say that'd be a good shout, basically the Leinster team with a few honourable mentions. The bench is the only place we're likely to see the elusive Ulster player with Hendo included but even that's not guaranteed. I'd rather see Larmour starting on the wing, the margin between him and Nash is a fairly fine but he brings that Leinster X factor.
Benchwise we could see Healy, Kelleher, Bealham, Hendo/McCarthy, Conan, Casey/Murray,Frawley/Byrne........god knows. There are too many variances for the bench options for me to even begin to think about this early on a monday.

Anyway, I know most will have the French as favourites due to the home advantage and Ireland's loss of Sexton but I'm not so sure. The Ireland squad has had lots of experience playing in France quite recently so the trip isn't just quite as daunting as previous years. We may be missing Sexton but with Dupont missing, France face a loss that's just as disruptive. Both however will be desperate to make up for disappointments in the RWC so it's set up to be a battle royale. Historically these tended to end up as damp squibs but these 2 sides won't be interested in being cagey.

P.S. What's with the Irish fans being so quiet about this 6N, our once vociferous fanbase seems to have lost their tongues?

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Post by carpet baboon Mon 29 Jan 2024, 12:47 pm

I can see Baird instead of Conan.
And think Nash will get the 14 shirt
And I wouldn't be surprised to see no Ulster players in the match day squad at all.

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Post by carpet baboon Tue 30 Jan 2024, 9:34 am

Although someone put all this seasons stats for the 4 seconds rows on twitter and Hendo looks to have been performing very well, so who knows.
Maybe he will suprise us all with a Hendo McCarthy partnership

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Post by Collapse2005 Tue 30 Jan 2024, 2:04 pm

carpet baboon wrote:Although someone put all this seasons stats for the 4 seconds rows on twitter and Hendo looks to have been performing very well, so who knows.
Maybe he will suprise us all with a Hendo McCarthy partnership

I think that Ryan and McCarthy will start. Ireland will need the heft of McCarthy against the French pack. Beirne, Baird, Conan or Hendo coming off the bench would be tasty.

Personally Id pick a back row of Beirne, Vdf and Doris but clearly that wont happen.

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Post by Collapse2005 Tue 30 Jan 2024, 2:06 pm

Pete330v2 wrote:

P.S. What's with the Irish fans being so quiet about this 6N, our once vociferous fanbase seems to have lost their tongues?

Maybe there arent many left?

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Post by Pete330v2 Tue 30 Jan 2024, 2:19 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:
Pete330v2 wrote:

P.S. What's with the Irish fans being so quiet about this 6N, our once vociferous fanbase seems to have lost their tongues?

Maybe there arent many left?

Fans or tongues ?

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Post by Collapse2005 Wed 31 Jan 2024, 8:59 am

Ireland fans one here. Irish people never lose their tongues, mad for talking shoite.

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Post by Duty281 Wed 31 Jan 2024, 11:14 am

Can't believe Karl Dickson has got the biggest game of the Six Nations.

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Post by carpet baboon Wed 31 Jan 2024, 11:38 am

Duty281 wrote:Can't believe Karl Dickson has got the biggest game of the Six Nations.

He is capable of being quite good. He's also very capable of confusing the feck out of both teams and supporters with strange contradictory interpretations.

I like to think of him as a human roulette wheel. I know what I want the ball to land on but I equally know I have absolutely no clue as to what it will

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Post by hugehandoff Wed 31 Jan 2024, 11:50 am

FRANCE (v Ireland): Thomas Ramos; Damian Penaud, Gael Fickou, Jonathan Danty, Yoram Moefana; Matthieu Jalibert, Maxime Lucu; Cyril Baille, Peato Mauvaka, Uini Atonio; Paul Gabrillagues, Paul Willemse; Francois Cros, Charles Ollivon, Gregory Alldritt (capt).


Replacements: Julien Marchand, Reda Wardi, Dorian Aldegheri, Romain Taofifenua, Cameron Woki, Paul Boudehent, Nolann Le Garrec, Louis Bielle-Biarrey.

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Post by carpet baboon Wed 31 Jan 2024, 12:09 pm

That's a strong team

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Post by Maine man Wed 31 Jan 2024, 12:21 pm

That's an absolute beast of a team.

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Post by carpet baboon Wed 31 Jan 2024, 12:32 pm

I think they may be a little upset about the world cup

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Post by Collapse2005 Wed 31 Jan 2024, 1:02 pm

Nash, Beirne and McCarthy start, no Ringrose, nor Ryan.

Ireland Team
15. Hugo Keenan (UCD/Leinster)(36)
14. Calvin Nash (Young Munster/Munster)(1)
13. Robbie Henshaw (Buccaneers/Leinster)(67)
12. Bundee Aki (Galwegians/Connacht)(52)
11. James Lowe (Leinster)(26)
10. Jack Crowley (Cork Constitution/Munster)(9)
9. Jamison Gibson-Park (Leinster)(30)
1. Andrew Porter (UCD/Leinster)(59)
2. Dan Sheehan (Lansdowne/Leinster)(21)
3. Tadhg Furlong (Clontarf/Leinster)(72)
4. Joe McCarthy (Dublin University/Leinster)(5)
5. Tadhg Beirne (Lansdowne/Munster)(46)
6. Peter O’Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster)(captain)(101)
7. Josh van der Flier (UCD/Leinster)(57)
8. Caelan Doris (St. Mary’s College/Leinster)(36)
Replacements:
16. Ronan Kelleher (Lansdowne/Leinster)(26)
17. Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster)(125)
18. Finlay Bealham (Buccaneers/Connacht)(36)
19. James Ryan (UCD/Leinster)(59)
20. Ryan Baird (Dublin University/Leinster)(15)
21. Jack Conan (Old Belvedere/Leinster)(41)
22. Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster)(112)
23. Ciaran Frawley (UCD/Leinster)(1).

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Post by formerly known as Sam Wed 31 Jan 2024, 1:12 pm

Two sets of 6/2 bench splits. This one's going to be a battle. With both sides missing their general it'll be interesting to see if that changes things.

James Ryan and Cameron Woki both benched is surprising.

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Post by carpet baboon Wed 31 Jan 2024, 1:14 pm

Looks like.the plan to counter their massive pack is to be quicker than them to everything. I can see us wanting to play a fast paced game.
I really hope Henshaw has found a lot of form in training

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Post by Collapse2005 Wed 31 Jan 2024, 1:20 pm

Is it hyperbole to say thats one of the best benches Ireland have ever had in the six nations?

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Post by carpet baboon Wed 31 Jan 2024, 1:26 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:Is it hyperbole to say thats one of the best benches Ireland have ever had in the six nations?
I would.say it's one of the most (potentially )impactful benches I have seen from Ireland

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Post by Maine man Wed 31 Jan 2024, 1:42 pm

Just realised where's Ringrose? Injured?

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Post by Collapse2005 Wed 31 Jan 2024, 1:49 pm

Maine man wrote:Just realised where's Ringrose? Injured?

Yes

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Post by carpet baboon Wed 31 Jan 2024, 2:00 pm

carpet baboon wrote:I can see Baird instead of Conan.
And think Nash will get the 14 shirt
And I wouldn't be surprised to see no Ulster players in the match day squad at all.

Well I got Nash starting and no Ulster players in the 23, and I'm claiming half a point for Baird on the bench with Conan

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Post by Maine man Wed 31 Jan 2024, 3:11 pm

Have Ireland ever gone with 6-2 split before? I can't recall one

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Post by sensisball Wed 31 Jan 2024, 8:35 pm

Think Galthie has learnt a bit from the Boks defeat
Bielle Biarre is lightening quick but defensively a bit weak at his tender age.
Also he has got lucky with Jelonch' s tragic ACL ( the other one) rupture. He has to start Cros in the back row, he is the only genuine threat over the ball in their back row.
Gabriallagues is another unit. Not quite Willemses size but a more powerful scrummager and close quarters ball carrier that Woki or Flament
I guess they are looking to squeeze the life out of the Irish pack before unleashing Wardi, Marchant , Woki, Taufefaneau and Boudehent with 30 to go.
Although the Irish bench is tasty up front, just not sure how Healy will cope with the French scrum.
Once a world class prop but I feel those days are well behind him now.
Still, he has massive experience which counts for a good deal in games like this.

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Post by doctor_grey Wed 31 Jan 2024, 9:10 pm

What a great matchup.  I am still in awe the Six Nations will start off with this game.  And on a Friday afternoon/evening to boot.  Best way to get fans looking forward to what comes next. guinness RedWine

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Post by sensisball Fri 02 Feb 2024, 8:46 am

Hold the back page editor -
Romain Taofifenua has been ruled out of the match against Ireland.

The French second row was replaced by Posolo Tuilagi on the bench.

Should make a spicy match even spicier, if that's possible!

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Post by Collapse2005 Fri 02 Feb 2024, 9:04 am

Wow big debut for Posolo Tuilagi! He is only 19 and the size of at least two Tadgh Beirnes. Big call from France though.

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Post by Oakdene Fri 02 Feb 2024, 9:08 am

Collapse2005 wrote:Wow big debut for Posolo Tuilagi! He is only 19 and the size of at least two Tadgh Beirnes. Big call from France though.

COuld make for a decent supersub in the fantasy teams.

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Post by Pete330v2 Fri 02 Feb 2024, 9:29 am

This game has the promise of being a full on gladiatorial battle. Both Teams will miss their generals but apart from that, for Ireland especially the disruption is minimal. France are going to bring the heavy duty, hard hitting edge to try and batter their way to victory. Ireland will have to go to the counter punch technique with the Leinster high tempo. France have employed the cheat code that is Tuilagi, the guy, even by Tuilagi standards is a freak of a man in the best possible way. When he comes on any lineouts close to the Irish line will be watched through nervous fingers from behind the couch,
Cannot Wait !!!

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Post by lostinwales Fri 02 Feb 2024, 10:21 am

Collapse2005 wrote:Wow big debut for Posolo Tuilagi! He is only 19 and the size of at least two Tadgh Beirnes. Big call from France though.

150kg more or less. 23.5 stone in old units

I don't think anybody is going to be lifting him in the lineout

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Post by doctor_grey Fri 02 Feb 2024, 10:23 am

lostinwales wrote:
Collapse2005 wrote:Wow big debut for Posolo Tuilagi! He is only 19 and the size of at least two Tadgh Beirnes. Big call from France though.

150kg more or less. 23.5 stone in old units
23.5 stone is the only measurement unit.  Don't be so quick to jump on the latest fad. Very Happy

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Fri 02 Feb 2024, 10:24 am

Collapse2005 wrote:Wow big debut for Posolo Tuilagi! He is only 19 and the size of at least two Tadgh Beirnes. Big call from France though.

It's wild that he might have been facing his uncle later in the tournament, if it wasn't for injury.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Fri 02 Feb 2024, 10:43 am

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:
Collapse2005 wrote:Wow big debut for Posolo Tuilagi! He is only 19 and the size of at least two Tadgh Beirnes. Big call from France though.

It's wild that he might have been facing his uncle later in the tournament, if it wasn't for injury.

Manu might be back by the time England play France.

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Post by Recwatcher16 Fri 02 Feb 2024, 11:27 am

That french reserve front row looks pretty tasty and with 150kg young truck pushing behind- Porter will need an 80 minute game. Fickou against Henshaw and who comes out on top, could also well decide the scoreline.

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Post by sensisball Fri 02 Feb 2024, 12:48 pm

I suspect that they will be looking for Ollivon to stay on and be the main middle line out jumper with Woki at 2, where he is hard to disrupt.

Tuilagi's main problem is that he isn't a viable lineout option, the combination of his huge weight,23.5 stone, and relative lack of height, 6ft 4ins, mean that unless he is standing at the front and takes the trick play of the throw to the standing player(so beloved of Jamie Ritchie) he isn't winning lineout ball.
However, in the final quarter with Woki, Ollivon and Boudehent on the field that would still give France 3 good options at lineout time.

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Post by lostinwales Fri 02 Feb 2024, 1:00 pm

doctor_grey wrote:
lostinwales wrote:
Collapse2005 wrote:Wow big debut for Posolo Tuilagi! He is only 19 and the size of at least two Tadgh Beirnes. Big call from France though.

150kg more or less. 23.5 stone in old units
23.5 stone is the only measurement unit.  Don't be so quick to jump on the latest fad. Very Happy

A consequence of going to live in such a backwards country. You could also say 330lb (or 100lb more than me)

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Post by nlpnlp Fri 02 Feb 2024, 4:13 pm

I am expecting the French behemoth to be greeted by Peter O’Mahony “Now listen here Posolo. You're a big man, but you're in bad shape. With me it's a full time job. Now behave yourself.”

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Post by lostinwales Fri 02 Feb 2024, 4:21 pm

nlpnlp wrote:I am expecting the French behemoth to be greeted by Peter O’Mahony “Now listen here Posolo.  You're a big man, but you're in bad shape. With me it's a full time job. Now behave yourself.”  

To which he'll reply that his dad had told him about POM

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Post by formerly known as Sam Fri 02 Feb 2024, 6:48 pm

lostinwales wrote:
nlpnlp wrote:I am expecting the French behemoth to be greeted by Peter O’Mahony “Now listen here Posolo.  You're a big man, but you're in bad shape. With me it's a full time job. Now behave yourself.”  

To which he'll reply that his dad had told him about POM

At which a point a scuffle breaks out as the Tuilagi family have always been shrinking violets on a rugby field.

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Post by Heaf Fri 02 Feb 2024, 7:53 pm

carpet baboon wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Can't believe Karl Dickson has got the biggest game of the Six Nations.

He is capable of being quite good. He's also very capable of confusing the feck out of both teams and supporters with strange contradictory interpretations.

I like to think of him as a human roulette wheel. I know what I want the ball to land on but I equally know I have absolutely no clue as to what it will

I think you must have dreamt that bit Wink   I think of him more like the ball in a pin-ball machine - bouncing randomly from one decision to another ...

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Post by doctor_grey Fri 02 Feb 2024, 8:09 pm

Heaf wrote:
carpet baboon wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Can't believe Karl Dickson has got the biggest game of the Six Nations.

He is capable of being quite good. He's also very capable of confusing the feck out of both teams and supporters with strange contradictory interpretations.

I like to think of him as a human roulette wheel. I know what I want the ball to land on but I equally know I have absolutely no clue as to what it will

I think you must have dreamt that bit Wink   I think of him more like the ball in a pin-ball machine - bouncing randomly from one decision to another ...
He is a former scrum half.

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Post by Duty281 Fri 02 Feb 2024, 8:11 pm

Could be red that.

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Post by Collapse2005 Fri 02 Feb 2024, 8:12 pm

Hard to imagine Healy lasting 70 mins

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Post by BigGee Fri 02 Feb 2024, 8:12 pm

I thought Porter was low, so might well stay YC

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Post by mikey_dragon Fri 02 Feb 2024, 8:13 pm

Ireland 10 looks like he is struggling a bit, or maybe it’s just me.

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Post by Collapse2005 Fri 02 Feb 2024, 8:15 pm

Ireland dont look very slick in the backs

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Post by Heaf Fri 02 Feb 2024, 8:16 pm

BigGee wrote:I thought Porter was low, so might well stay YC

Was there an attempt to wrap? missed the replay ...

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Post by RDW Fri 02 Feb 2024, 8:19 pm

BigGee wrote:I thought Porter was low, so might well stay YC

I don't think it's about how low you are (within reason) it's about change in height

Porter didn't change in height and the Frenchie should have come in lower

Could be a red!

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Post by BigGee Fri 02 Feb 2024, 8:20 pm

Stays YC

He was always dropping

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