ATP World Tour Finals 2011, London Calling

nitb, be logical for once, he has been an embarrassment to what he plays, why negate it?

Djoko is ready for one last hurrah. What he and Rafa must try to do next year is avoid each other in big finals. They seem to have worn each other out in 2011. Or was it just the one match - the extraordinarily physical USO final - that did the damage?

Tenez wrote:

laverfan wrote:

gallery play wrote:
I knew someone would pick that one, but there aren't many more, are there?

There are not that many indoor HCs that Nadal goes to.

Having said that, he beat Berdych last year (2010), and see where Berdych is this year. IMVHO, Tipsy let him off the hook with that silly volley.

Djokovic was handicapped by ContactLenseGate.

Just looking @TMC/WTF - http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Rafael-Nadal.aspx?t=pa&y=0&m=s&e=605#

Isn;t that typical LF? You think Nadal played well in that semi cause he won, right? WOudl you have said the same had he lost that key point and the match v Murray? Would you have come up with that match to try to counter GP argument? So once again, luck which is in effect what decided that match is the criteria to decide whether Nadal plays well or not? Typical.

The thing is that Murray certainly hasn't got the firepower of Tsonga so Nadal will have time to apply his attritional game versus Murray and allow him to play his best. That's the difference between yesterday and last year.

If Federer had won the first or the second MP at USO 2011 or 2010... http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/sep/11/us-open-2011-federer-djokovic

If Federer had won one of five MPs at Paris 2010... http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/nov/13/roger-federer-paris-masters

If JwT had won his last game against Federer this year...

If Federer had won his MP against Safin at AO... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/4207905.stm

If Federer had won his MP against Nadal @Rome... http://www.usatoday.com/sports/tennis/2006-05-14-masters-rome_x.htm

If Federer had won his MP against Nalbandian @TMC 2005... http://bleacherreport.com/articles/301067-near-misses-roger-federer-vs-david-nalbandian-masters-cup-final-2005

If Nalbandian had won his MPs against Nadal @IW.... http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/mar/19/rafael-nadal-david-nalbandian-indian-wells

If Djokovic had won his MPs against Nadal at Madrid.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/8053901.stm

Typical, is it not very typical of your argument?

But how are they going to avoid each other in big finals? 1 & 2. Not just USO, but all year around, the style they play it's painful to watch let alone play it.

USO probably a cherry on top, totally wasted both of them.

Typical LF's post..trying to drown a fish as he refuses to acknowledge a fair point.

Yesterday was all well and good but I dont expect Tsonga to be beating Nadal much outside of indoor courts if Nadal is anywhere his usual form, and even yesterday had Nadal been in better form he could have still won the match.

I have a feeling that Nole and Nadal wont be meeting each other with the same regularity in finals next year.

Come on Noleeeeeee

Tenez wrote:Typical LF's post..trying to drown a fish as he refuses to acknowledge a fair point.

Yes, Nadal played as well as he could. Tsonga played better and deserved the win.

You referred to a 'crucial point' in a match and I gave you examples of such over the years.

Tipsy missing the MP against Berdych. If Tipsy had made the MP, Berdych would have minimal chances of a SF berth.

Rather interesting that you bring up the 'crucial point' argument and now are back-tracking on it.

And the 1000th post of this thread says...

NOLE IS THE BEEEEEEST

laverfan wrote:

Tenez wrote:Typical LF's post..trying to drown a fish as he refuses to acknowledge a fair point.

Yes, Nadal played as well as he could. Tsonga played better and deserved the win.

You referred to a 'crucial point' in a match and I gave you examples of such over the years.

Tipsy missing the MP against Berdych. If Tipsy had made the MP, Berdych would have minimal chances of a SF berth.

Rather interesting that you bring up the 'crucial point' argument and now are back-tracking on it.

I did not refer to any point in particular. Just the fact that you said Nadal played well in that last year semi whereas I don't think he did anymore than yesterday> Just teh result is different cause one took teh game away from him, while the other played in Nadal's terms. That's all it takes.

What A forehand from Novak!!!!

Tipsy as expected folding pretty rapidly...

Mad for Chelsea wrote:Tipsy as expected folding pretty rapidly...

Great, the more rapid, the better !

Tenez wrote:Just the fact that you said Nadal played well in that last year semi whereas I don't think he did anymore than yesterday

Subjective opinion, and you want me to consider it a 'balanced' argument.

Tenez wrote:Just teh result is different cause one took teh game away from him, while the other played in Nadal's terms. That's all it takes.

That is all it takes in any match.

What a beautiful point form Nole

Tipsy's capitulation.

Tipsy holds, not a great match but Novak looking better than he did in his first two matches. Tipsy as expected throwing errors all over the shop...

Enjoying (maybe the last ) Nole's match this year to the max , come on Noleeee!

Would love to see Tipsy put up a semblance of a fight.

I want to see a brutal 3 setter.

I may prepare the brutal three setter dance.

I shall weigh up the pros and cons.

hahaha love the sound of the brutal three setter dance!

you can do a "brutal three setter dance"? awesome! Can you also do a "brutal five setter dance for special occasions"? Could come in handy for whoever gets the first semi at the Us Open

Much better from Tipsy, with a bit of Djoker's help though.

emancipator wrote:I want to see a brutal 3 setter.

I may prepare the brutal three setter dance.

I shall weigh up the pros and cons.

Give some more details, please...

I know all of the dances including the ancient rain, wind and fluffy ball dances.

Unfortunately they require immense power.

first set to Djokovic, routine stuff; Tipsy is playing pants

1st bagged.....one more to go

Mad for Chelsea wrote:first set to Djokovic, routine stuff; Tipsy is playing pants

you forgot the "as expected" bit

noleisthebest wrote:

Mad for Chelsea wrote:first set to Djokovic, routine stuff; Tipsy is as expected playing pants

you forgot the "as expected" bit

edited

Janko needs a holiday, badly....as expected at this time of the year, of course...

As expected, Tipsarevic refusing to rollover, come on Tipsy, be a mate, for once!!!!

I've got a question. Provided Nole qualifies for the semis and then he is not fit to play, then who plays the semi-final match?

Wow, who's that hottie?

Shouldn't it be against the rules if two best friends play? Especially if one can't qualify even with a win.

hawkeye wrote:Shouldn't it be against the rules if two best friends play? Especially if one can't qualify even with a win.

I know, shame on ATP for allowing such a dreadful scenario

Tipsy disobeying orders. Tipsy in 3

noleisthebest wrote:I've got a question. Provided Nole qualifies for the semis and then he is not fit to play, then who plays the semi-final match?

I would assume whoever finished third in the group. But it could be a replacement I guess, or even just a straight w/o (though that seems unlikely). Wouldn't worry though, physically Nole seems just fine to me.

Nole is always gurning and grimacing; he's fine.

Nole's level dipping in this set, and Tipsy is fighting it out well. he breaks for 5-3 (again) and will serve for the set.

Does Tipsarevic know that Nole needs to potentially play a semi against Federer tomorrow...he really annoys me...as expected...

My children,

The brutal three setter dance has been completed.

Let battle commence.



emancipator - ancient dancing expert

emancipator wrote:My children,

The brutal three setter dance has been completed.

Let battle commence.



emancipator - ancient dancing expert

I'm in awe..

emancipator wrote:My children,

The brutal three setter dance has been completed.

Let battle commence.



emancipator - ancient dancing expert

emancipator, you are all talk! Youtube clip of your dance. Nothing less.

Mad for Chelsea wrote:Nole's level dipping in this set, and Tipsy is fighting it out well. he breaks for 5-3 (again) and will serve for the set.

as expected?

emancipator

you've done it again

Mighty is thy power!

noleisthebest wrote:

Mad for Chelsea wrote:Nole's level dipping in this set, as expected, and Tipsy is fighting it out well. he breaks for 5-3 (again) and will serve for the set.

as expected?

edited again

Everyone wants Nole to lose
Such is the fate of the best...as expected...

noleisthebest wrote:Does Tipsarevic know that Nole needs to potentially play a semi against Federer tomorrow...he really annoys me...as expected...

He did try and do what Nole wanted but he couldn't be too obvious. It is after all against the rules..

noleisthebest wrote:Everyone wants Nole to lose
Such is the fate of the best...as expected...

I don't want Nole to lose! DO want a close match though!