New Zealand Under-20s v Wales Under-20s (Teams/Match thread)

by Morgannwg Fri 8 Jun - 10:20

First topic message reminder :

Baby Blacks - Marty McKenzie, Matt Proctor, Marnus Hanley, Opetera Peleseuma, Junior Va'a Tofa, Scott Eade, Bryn Hall, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Nathan Harris, Eric Sione, Joe Latta, Christian Lloyd, Taniela Manu, Hugh Blake, Jordan Taufua. Replacements - Rhys Marshall, Tuki Raimona, Fraser Armstrong, Nick Ross, Jimmy Tupou, Jono Kitto, Ihaia West, Pita Ahki.

Wales - Ross Jones, Tom Prydie, Cory Allen, Jack Dixon, Eli Walker, Matthew Morgan, Tom Habberfield, Rob Evans, Kirby Myhill, Samson Lee, Cory Hill, Matthew Screech, Luke Hamilton, Ellis Jenkins, Dan Baker. Replacements - Darran Harris, Gareth Thomas, Will John, Rhodri Hughes, Daniel Thomas, Jonothan Evans, Sam Davies, Thomas Pascoe.

* Well probably the best Wales U20s team of the year. A lot of pace in the backline behind a big, strong pack. Shouldn't be a massacre this time then...
Each player is tied to a premiership team and should have been getting regular game time. Others have played in the LV cup for their Regions, Pro12 and in some cases the Heineken Cup. Capped international Prydie and Tom Habberfield have played for Wales in the IRB Sevens Series and showed up very well. I think Ponty 2nd row Cory Hill is the captain, he has looked pretty handy in the games I've seen him play. Each need to show up well and overcome any psychological barrier if they are to stay within reach of New Zealands school-boys. Good luck boyo's.

** Baby Blacks undefeated for 5 years fall to U20 Six Nations fourth placed Wales. Well done boyo's. Complete turnaround from previous years. Still don't agree with the 14 players not being released for that Six Nations though.

by wales606 Sat 9 Jun - 1:39

TycroesOsprey wrote:I think the commentaators had a script and are still using it even though the game isnt turning out the way the thought. NZ scrum in all sorts of trouble but they keep saying what a good scrum it is? I think they did say that the NZ front row was second choice but they have been getting the names of both sides wrong all game. Dont think they did much prep for this game.

Yep, they are awful at names - I thought that was pretty much a commentators entire job.

by TycroesOsprey Sat 9 Jun - 1:39

Oh morgan is normally a ghreeat kicker but hes clearly out of sorts and its not like the conditions allow for his style of game so Maybe sam would be a better option. His kick from Hand is better than morgan and its a kick and chase type of day.

by wales606 Sat 9 Jun - 1:40

Poor kick from Morgan - easy mark

by wales606 Sat 9 Jun - 1:40

Beautiful catch from Habberfield

by wales606 Sat 9 Jun - 1:40

But another easy mark for NZ!

by Shifty Sat 9 Jun - 1:42

Ospreydragon wrote:Weather is awful and pitch is a mudpath. Terrible playing conditions. V difficult to score tries.

Bloody hell if this was a Welsh pitch we'd be saying what a great surface it is, so condusive to playing "the welsh way" :P

by wales606 Sat 9 Jun - 1:42

Ross Jones kicking has been excellent - Matthew Morgan...not so much.

by Morgannwg Sat 9 Jun - 1:44

Damn, we almost had em lol. Flag has gone up.

by **LondonTiger** Sat 9 Jun - 1:44

Damn good chance for a Wales try, but poor passing.

by wales606 Sat 9 Jun - 1:44

Brillaint chase by Prydie

Its on outwide!

But NZ cover across well.

by wales606 Sat 9 Jun - 1:44

NZ 15 took Prydie in the air - Penalty to Wales.

by Morgannwg Sat 9 Jun - 1:45

I can't remember the last time Prydie kicked.

by **LondonTiger** Sat 9 Jun - 1:46

wales606 wrote:NZ 15 took Prydie in the air - Penalty to Wales.

It was the 11

by wales606 Sat 9 Jun - 1:46

It was the NZ 11 on the replay.

Dangerous tackle, a lot of refs would have given Yellow (Halfpenny on Parrisse was not as bad)

Prydie kicks a penalty from near halfway! Brilliant kick, should take over from Morgan based on that.

6 - 6

by Morgannwg Sat 9 Jun - 1:47

Commentators "Shock, horror! The NZ team makes a mistake! It must have been Wales' fault."

Doh

by **LondonTiger** Sat 9 Jun - 1:48

There is no way on earth that deserved a YC. It was not even dangerous but as the law stands it was illegal.

by Shifty Sat 9 Jun - 1:48

Look how low Sampson is in the scrums, New Zealand loose head no chance. Sampson is dropping his right shoulder on the engagement so he cant hit him in the scrums so he cant get any kind of hit, then is just driving into the hooker. Cracking scrumaging.

by maestegmafia Sat 9 Jun - 1:49

What's the score guys???

by Morgannwg Sat 9 Jun - 1:49

I see Alyn's earlier point now. It really was not a good idea starting with that giant number 1. He belongs in the back row.

by **LondonTiger** Sat 9 Jun - 1:49

Morgannwg wrote:Commentators "Shock, horror! The NZ team makes a mistake! It must have been Wales' fault."

FFS they admitted they were wrong.

by wales606 Sat 9 Jun - 1:49

Welsh scrum really driving NZ, smashing them - i've never seen such a dominant Welsh U20 scrum.

Penalty on halfway - Prydie to take it.

by **LondonTiger** Sat 9 Jun - 1:50

maestegmafia wrote:What's the score guys???

6-6, Prydie just missed one.

by Shifty Sat 9 Jun - 1:50

6-6 50 minutes gone.

by maestegmafia Sat 9 Jun - 1:50

LondonTiger wrote:There is no way on earth that deserved a YC. It was not even dangerous but as the law stands it was illegal.

neither was Halfpenny on Parisse..!!!

by wales606 Sat 9 Jun - 1:50

maestegmafia wrote:What's the score guys???

6 - 6

Prydie missed the penalty from halfway.

by **LondonTiger** Sat 9 Jun - 1:50

Ref misses a very offside welsh defence at the breakdown.

Wales arfe outplaying NZ atm though.

by Morgannwg Sat 9 Jun - 1:51

Why the hell did Habberfield kick that?

by wales606 Sat 9 Jun - 1:51

maestegmafia wrote:
LondonTiger wrote:There is no way on earth that deserved a YC. It was not even dangerous but as the law stands it was illegal.
neither was Halfpenny on Parisse..!!!

Exactly, Halfpenny was looking at the ball - the NZ no11 was going for Prydie's legs.

by Morgannwg Sat 9 Jun - 1:52

Morgan tackles ABs 13 but according to Marshal the 13 gets away from him.

by wales606 Sat 9 Jun - 1:52

Samson Lee just got trampled under the NZ maul - He doesnt look happy laughing

by wales606 Sat 9 Jun - 1:52

Arggg, another easy mark from NZ.

by **LondonTiger** Sat 9 Jun - 1:52

maestegmafia wrote:
LondonTiger wrote:There is no way on earth that deserved a YC. It was not even dangerous but as the law stands it was illegal.
neither was Halfpenny on Parisse..!!!

From memory Parisse was much higher in the air (Prydie was about 6 inches when hit) and due to 1/2p being small Parisse was flipped where as Prydie was caught and brought down on his feet. Not saying 1/2p deserved YC, but it was worse than this.

by maestegmafia Sat 9 Jun - 1:53

wales606 wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:
LondonTiger wrote:There is no way on earth that deserved a YC. It was not even dangerous but as the law stands it was illegal.
neither was Halfpenny on Parisse..!!!

Exactly, Halfpenny was looking at the ball - the NZ no11 was going for Prydie's legs.

Well he does have very pretty legs... Ha ha ha..!!!

by Morgannwg Sat 9 Jun - 1:54

Refs bias confirmed should he give a yellow card here.

by wales606 Sat 9 Jun - 1:54

Wales have possession - why hasn't he stopped for advantage?

by **LondonTiger** Sat 9 Jun - 1:55

odd decision to opt for scrum

by Morgannwg Sat 9 Jun - 1:55

NZ have opted for scrum. Surely the wrong decision? Or did they not have a choice?

by wales606 Sat 9 Jun - 1:56

He did use arms, and was committed to it. Good call from the touch judge, penalty not a YC.

NZ have gone for the scrum?

by wales606 Sat 9 Jun - 1:57

Early engage

But there's a double movement which gives Wales the penalty to relieve pressure.

by **LondonTiger** Sat 9 Jun - 1:57

Wrong decison on replay, but looked correct by ref live.

by **LondonTiger** Sat 9 Jun - 1:58

Hmm Kiwi who knocked on was taken out in the air just as much as Prydie was.

by Morgannwg Sat 9 Jun - 1:58

Can someone ask Habberfield to pass the ball when they are in the NZ half? Jeez.

by wales606 Sat 9 Jun - 1:58

Some good box kicks from Habberfield.

As I say that, he kicks it dead Doh

by Morgannwg Sat 9 Jun - 1:59

LondonTiger wrote:Hmm Kiwi who knocked on was taken out in the air just as much as Prydie was.

Not at all. The ball was knocked on then he fell from the air onto Matt Morgans shoulder. I think you'd do well on this commentary team.

by wales606 Sat 9 Jun - 1:59

Morgannwg wrote:Can someone ask Habberfield to pass the ball when they are in the NZ half? Jeez.

It working well - prevents Wales getting turned over or giving away a penalty in their own half. Good decision in these conditions if you ask me.

by wales606 Sat 9 Jun - 2:01

Awful awful awful awful awful kick from Eli Walker - what on earth was he doing?

Gives a kickable penalty away.

by Morgannwg Sat 9 Jun - 2:01

Not when you're trying to win the game it's not such a good plan.

by **profitius** Sat 9 Jun - 2:01

The Welsh no 9 is costing them the match.

by wales606 Sat 9 Jun - 2:02

Daniel Thomas is on

by wales606 Sat 9 Jun - 2:03

wales606 wrote:Daniel Thomas is on

You can see him with the bright clean shirt and the long blonde hair.

Wins the penalty straight away.

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