New Zealand Under-20s v Wales Under-20s (Teams/Match thread)

[Morgannwg]

First topic message reminder :

Baby Blacks - Marty McKenzie, Matt Proctor, Marnus Hanley, Opetera Peleseuma, Junior Va'a Tofa, Scott Eade, Bryn Hall, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Nathan Harris, Eric Sione, Joe Latta, Christian Lloyd, Taniela Manu, Hugh Blake, Jordan Taufua. Replacements - Rhys Marshall, Tuki Raimona, Fraser Armstrong, Nick Ross, Jimmy Tupou, Jono Kitto, Ihaia West, Pita Ahki.

Wales - Ross Jones, Tom Prydie, Cory Allen, Jack Dixon, Eli Walker, Matthew Morgan, Tom Habberfield, Rob Evans, Kirby Myhill, Samson Lee, Cory Hill, Matthew Screech, Luke Hamilton, Ellis Jenkins, Dan Baker. Replacements - Darran Harris, Gareth Thomas, Will John, Rhodri Hughes, Daniel Thomas, Jonothan Evans, Sam Davies, Thomas Pascoe.

* Well probably the best Wales U20s team of the year. A lot of pace in the backline behind a big, strong pack. Shouldn't be a massacre this time then...
Each player is tied to a premiership team and should have been getting regular game time. Others have played in the LV cup for their Regions, Pro12 and in some cases the Heineken Cup. Capped international Prydie and Tom Habberfield have played for Wales in the IRB Sevens Series and showed up very well. I think Ponty 2nd row Cory Hill is the captain, he has looked pretty handy in the games I've seen him play. Each need to show up well and overcome any psychological barrier if they are to stay within reach of New Zealands school-boys. Good luck boyo's.

** Baby Blacks undefeated for 5 years fall to U20 Six Nations fourth placed Wales. Well done boyo's. Complete turnaround from previous years. Still don't agree with the 14 players not being released for that Six Nations though.

[timhen]

Congratulations to Wales, cracking defensive effort.

The Baby Blacks deserved to lose that, they didn't play intelligently at all, couldn't cope with the conditions and had a terrible kicking game.

[maestegmafia]

Brilliant go Wales...!

Cymru am byth

[Ospreydragon]

Amazing win, especially after what happened last year!

[Shifty]

Well done lads, I feel sorry for those New Zealand lads though imagine being part of the first team to ever lose a game at this level?

[TycroesOsprey]

Wow, well played boys, Now as long as the seniors can emulate you and beat the Ozzies tomorrow and I will have had a great weekend.

[TycroesOsprey]

First NZ side to lose to a welsh one since the fifties?

[Smirnoffpriest]

Awesome result, Just reading the thread was tense enough. Great to see the players come on as much as they had - soon the Scarlets will have the Welsh bolier house playing for them!

[profitius]

Great win Wales!

[CurlyOsp]

What a year for Welsh rugby! Come on Wales!

[Guest]

What a game! Very tense! Atrocious conditions for both sides (obviously) but still entertaining.

[wales606]

Cory Hill will be kicking himself for missing this game!

[Morgannwg]

Congratulations to Wales, cracking defensive effort.

The Baby Blacks deserved to lose that, they didn't play intelligently at all, couldn't cope with the conditions and had a terrible kicking game.

I couldn't agree with you more. Thanks you very much nottins .

[munkian]

[Cymroglan]

I wonder if Kirby believes it

[wales606]

I wonder if Kirby believes it

Wasn't he involved in the game last year aswell.

What a difference a year makes.

[Cymroglan]

A year makes a huge difference at that level.

[Morgannwg]

A few of the top players sat on the bench last year. It was like throwing the towel in before kicking off, the awesome Baby Blacks smelt blood and 92 nilled Wales.

Anyway, fingers crossed lets not meet these until the final at least hehe.

[maestegmafia]

No match reports anywhere..!

[TycroesOsprey]

A few of the top players sat on the bench last year. It was like throwing the towel in before kicking off, the awesome Baby Blacks smelt blood and 92 nilled Wales.

Anyway, fingers crossed lets not meet these until the final at least hehe.

And if we do lets hope it rains again as the Baby Blacks are not going to be happy after that. You can almost hear the sound of indrawn breath and anger building in the land of the long white cloud.

[TycroesOsprey]

No match reports anywhere..!

Maes reread the scotland Oz game and change a few names to welsh and kiwi kids and it was pretty much the same.

[Shifty]

Wasn't he involved in the game last year aswell.

What a difference a year makes.

15 Liam Williams;
14 Iolo Evans,
13 Owen Williams (Matthew Morgan 40),
12 Lewis Robling,
11 Dale Ford (Ross Jones 70);
10 Steve Shingler,
9 Lewis Jones (Jonathan Evans 71);
1 Rhodri Jones),
2 Kirby Myhill (Jamie Sollis 65),
3 WillGriff John (Will Taylor 65),
4 Lloyd Peers (capt, Macauley Cook 42)
5 Cory Hill,
6 Edward Siggery,
7 Thomas Young,
8 Owen Sheppeard (Luke Hamilton 50).

last years team

[maestegmafia]

IRB Junior Rugby World Cup on Twitter...!

FT #NZLvsWAL 6-9 Pool A #CapeTown First ever loss for Baby Blacks in a #JWC match. You could say it's a wale of an achievement, this 9-6 win

[maestegmafia]

No match reports anywhere..!

Maes reread the scotland Oz game and change a few names to welsh and kiwi kids and it was pretty much the same.

Ha ha ha...!

Let's hope no ones caught hypothermia..

[Cymroglan]

It's good for the game that they have lost but of course I'm over the moon that it's us that beat them.

[LondonTiger]

A year makes a huge difference at that level.

Often a year will mean an entirely new team.

[mckay1402]

Holy moly. What a turn around from last time they played. Awesome

[wales606]

Who is the U20s coach this year? Certainly had a good gameplan today

[Guest]

I'm not sure if it's true but I've heard that in previous years Wales would send mainly 18 year olds to this tournament, but this year went for the more 'senior' players at this age group, hence the players who've been around a while and have some Pro12/HC experience. Any truth in this?

[emack2]

Well,done Wales atrocious conditions could be NH Junior RWC win this year.

[Shifty]

I'm not sure if it's true but I've heard that in previous years Wales would send mainly 18 year olds to this tournament, but this year went for the more 'senior' players at this age group, hence the players who've been around a while and have some Pro12/HC experience. Any truth in this?

Yes I said this earlier, the policy was only to send players who werent playing regional rugby.

Basically the likes of Eli Walker, Prydie, Ross Jones, Matthew Morgan, Habberfield etc, etc would not of been selected if that policy had stayed the same.

[Shifty]

Can New Zealand still win it now? If Wales beat Samoa then New Zealand cant finish higher than 5th can they?

[Barney McGrew did it]

Woo hoo! Good win but the real good news is if that's the future ABs, then in a few years we'll all have a chance.

[wales606]

Who was MOTM?

My MOTM was Ross Jones, brilliant kicking game. Pydie also looked good in the back and Allen closed down NZ very well and every since forward put their body on the line in defence, but Jones was the standout - I hope he gets more regional chances.

[Guest]

well done lads showing the International boys how it's done

[Shifty]

I'm right if Wales beat Samoa then New Zealand will finish between 5th and 8th!

[LondonTiger]

Can New Zealand still win it now? If Wales beat Samoa then New Zealand cant finish higher than 5th can they?

NZ still have a very good chance of being best runner up.

[LondonTiger]

Woo hoo! Good win but the real good news is if that's the future ABs, then in a few years we'll all have a chance.

Every NZ U20 player with Super Rugby experience was left in NZ.

[thomh]

As a side issue, and sorry if this point has been made a million times, shouldn't the baby blacks really be called the small blacks. That would make a lot more sense.

And congratulations to Wales. Great result.

[Hound_of_Harrow]

Great result Wales. Enjoy that.

I'm about to head into the Great Welsh Beer Fest in Cardiff.

[TycroesOsprey]

As a side issue, and sorry if this point has been made a million times, shouldn't the baby blacks really be called the small blacks. That would make a lot more sense.

And congratulations to Wales. Great result.

They werent that small although playing a 6 foot 4 loosehead didnt work for them. If the welsh had cut out the early engage then we would have had quite a few more penalties at scrum time.

[Shifty]

As a side issue, and sorry if this point has been made a million times, shouldn't the baby blacks really be called the small blacks. That would make a lot more sense.

And congratulations to Wales. Great result.

Not judging by the height of their props a few of them are 6'4"!

[maestegmafia]

It's official...!

And it reads as beautiful as anything Dylan Thomas ever penned..!!!!!




08 Jun, 16:45 New Zealand 6-9 Wales Danie Craven Stadium, Stellenbosch

http://www.irb.com/jwc/fixturesresults/index.html

[thomh]

Well then they're not really babies either

[Shifty]

Woo hoo! Good win but the real good news is if that's the future ABs, then in a few years we'll all have a chance.

Every NZ U20 player with Super Rugby experience was left in NZ.

It''s not as if Wales got any pity or slack for it off New Zealand last year though!

[Dorothy_Mantooth]

Great result for Wales against a New Zealand 20s 'A' side. Great defensive effort, but it really seems that they can only sneak a win against good opposition when conditions are poor. Also where we're the try's?

[wales606]

[chewed_mintie]

Well done Wales, great effort....thanks for the guys who kept this page updated throughout the game too!

NZ need to regroup now. Perhaps not a great vintage coming out of NZ this year but we're due a blip every now and then!

C'est la vie!

[TycroesOsprey]

Great result for Wales against a New Zealand 20s 'A' side. Great defensive effort, but it really seems that they can only sneak a win against good opposition when conditions are poor. Also where we're the try's?

A but odd for a scot to start with the "NZ A" side or "sneaking a win" in poor conditions espescially after youor comments when scotland won. Why so bitter?

[Guest]

I think that was a tongue in cheek response by Dorothy mirroring the stupid comments by some Welsh fans after the Oz win.

[dogtooth]

first time ive seen any wales team beat any nz team.

Welsh rugby is looking in great shape.

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