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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:44 pm

First topic message reminder :

It seems that many people prefer the Ka Mate haka to Kapa O Pango. Yet the latter is the one the ABs pull out for the games they either think are special matches or opponents they respect the most.

So you might see the haka you prefer but if your team faces Ka Mate, do you see it as a slight against your team because in effect your team is not considered good enough to face Kapa O Pango?

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Post by mystiroakey Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:48 am

aucklandlaurie wrote: mystir
The trick with bad weather is to be prepared, Mystir.

Actually when it comes to origins New Zealand isnt much older than rugby.

correct- but as we all know the Mauris are

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Post by gowales Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:52 am

Yeah but remember, the only reason they started doing the Haka in rugby matches was for entertainment

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Post by mystiroakey Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:54 am

exactly walesy- Haka should be performed in the hakafactor(the worlds cultural dance off inspired by xfactor with panel judges). not before a rugby match

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:57 am

gowales wrote:Yeah but remember, the only reason they started doing the Haka in rugby matches was for entertainment

And modern professional rugby exists because it's entertainment Wink
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Post by mystiroakey Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:00 am

so why did/does amatuer rugby exist then?

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Post by The Great Aukster Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:23 am

biltongbek wrote:I think it is a bit hypocrytical to believe a part of NZ maori history, culture and tradition must belong in a bygone era, when the same pepole still value the monarchy.

Didn't know Aucklandlaurie valued the Monarcy - but it was AL who compared the Haka to the antiquated pyramids.

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Post by Pete330v2 Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:45 am

rodders wrote:Don't get the beef with the Haka to be honest....I mean if the Scots can play the bag pipes, Wales can use those flame thrower things (that must be a health and saftey hazard) and Ireland can play 2 anthems and then let their head of state go for dander around the pitch I don't see what the problem is?..... Smile

I agree Rodders, I say ban the blinking Tom Jones numbers before Welsh games, now that makes me cringe. I couldn't agree with getting rid of the bagpipes but we could do away with the whole Mel Gibson 'Freeeeedooooom' thing the Scottish like to perform before England matches. As for Ireland's Call.........cringe is not the word, tis awful.

As for the Haka, it is as much a part of rugby tradition as it is Maori culture. It will outlast the lot of us and love it or hate it, it'll still be enjoyed by the majority of rugby fans like myself who have grown up in awe of the All Blacks.

P.S. I do prefer the Ka Mate

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Post by gowales Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:48 am

Fair enough when you put in that perspective but for the record i think the whole Irish president thing coming out to shake every single bloody players hand pointless, but that's for another thread/forum...

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Post by The Great Aukster Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:57 am

gowales wrote:Fair enough when you put in that perspective but for the record i think the whole Irish president thing coming out to shake every single bloody players hand pointless, but that's for another thread/forum...

Johnno was able to use that to introduce a whole new level of disrespect.

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:07 am

The Great Aukster wrote:
gowales wrote:Fair enough when you put in that perspective but for the record i think the whole Irish president thing coming out to shake every single bloody players hand pointless, but that's for another thread/forum...

Johnno was able to use that to introduce a whole new level of disrespect.
True, what did he do? Was it out of line?

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Post by gowales Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:09 am

He was just saying "Love sacks to politics i'm hear to play rugby"

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Post by Pete330v2 Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:24 am

gowales wrote:Fair enough when you put in that perspective but for the record i think the whole Irish president thing coming out to shake every single bloody players hand pointless, but that's for another thread/forum...

Don't even start me on that one, it grinds my gonads to see that. Is it not bad enough we've two songs to get through?

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:30 am

Dunno if it's just me, but I quite like Ireland's Call. It's catchy and the players seem to get into it.

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Post by gowales Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:34 am

EBOP wrote:
The Great Aukster wrote:
gowales wrote:Fair enough when you put in that perspective but for the record i think the whole Irish president thing coming out to shake every single bloody players hand pointless, but that's for another thread/forum...

Johnno was able to use that to introduce a whole new level of disrespect.
True, what did he do? Was it out of line?

He walked out on to the wrong side to stand for the anthems and shake the President's hand, so basically the President had to walk on the grass when he shook their hands. Johnson refused to move because he was too "in the zone"... or so he said

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Post by The Great Aukster Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:06 am

Where's that whoosh smiley when you need it?

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