Game of Thrones - May Contain Spoilers

by randy-poffo Tue 19 Apr 2011, 6:36 pm

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Did anyone catch the first episode last night on Sky Atlantic.If so what were you're thoughts on it.
I'm a fan of the books that the show came from and was a bit worried how it would come across on TV.But I Really enjoyed the first episode and thought most of the charchters came across well.I'm looking foward to watching the rest of the season.

by randy-poffo Tue 19 Mar 2013, 7:54 pm

Yeah the dragon looked fantastic. This is definitely going to best season yet. Still not seen any Ramsay in the trailers but I'm thinking I got a glimpse of reek.

by Guest Wed 20 Mar 2013, 3:51 pm

The website winteriscoming.net has some tremendous interviews with the cast and GRRM from the show opening the other night - I'd recommend anyone who loves the show to log on and watch those.

Martin sounds like he's never going to get the books finished Sad

by randy-poffo Wed 20 Mar 2013, 4:27 pm

Yeah I like that site. Watched the GRRM interview earlier Im thinking 2015 at least for the winds of winter.

by Guest Wed 20 Mar 2013, 4:30 pm

I'm thinking 2015 as well, and then never for the last book, seeing as he'll be over 70 and hardly a spring chicken.

Series 4 of the show will cover the last of book 3, then Series 5 and 6 cover book 4, series 7 covers book 5, then probably four more series after that. Can the show go on for 11 seasons - until 2021? Probably not. Something has to give.

by randy-poffo Wed 20 Mar 2013, 7:05 pm

I'm sure I read on WIC that GRRM had told the producers the out come of the story incase anything happened to him before he finishes the books.
I can see the show lasting if ratings stay high, the only problem will be the age of the cast. The children cast are getting older where as there book counterparts are still pretty much the same age.

by Guest Fri 22 Mar 2013, 1:05 am

I've only just got round to watching this. My word is it incredible. Can't wait for season 3

obviously a few have read the books. Anybody recommend them or am I best just sticking with the series?

by Guest Fri 22 Mar 2013, 10:11 am

Gazzy - I've always found with a book + TV series/film, that whatever I read/saw first was what I preferred. So for me, I read GoT first, so I prefer the books (although the TV show is my favourite of all time). I preferred The Hobbit and LOTR books to the films (massive disappointments for me), prefer the Star Wars films to the books (which are actually a great read, and what a world they've created for spinoffs), I prefer the book of Patriot Games to the film, etc etc.

But absolutely 100% read the books. The first 50 pages alone is covered by that first scene in the show, and really builds the tension. I've never read a book and been so gripped and excited from the first page.

by **Kenny** Sat 23 Mar 2013, 11:50 am

its so close i can taste it

by teassoc Sun 24 Mar 2013, 1:13 pm

Azzy Mahmood wrote:Gazzy - I've always found with a book + TV series/film, that whatever I read/saw first was what I preferred. So for me, I read GoT first, so I prefer the books (although the TV show is my favourite of all time). I preferred The Hobbit and LOTR books to the films (massive disappointments for me), prefer the Star Wars films to the books (which are actually a great read, and what a world they've created for spinoffs), I prefer the book of Patriot Games to the film, etc etc.

But absolutely 100% read the books. The first 50 pages alone is covered by that first scene in the show, and really builds the tension. I've never read a book and been so gripped and excited from the first page.

Personally, never got into Tolkein's books. Loved LOTR films though.

As far as Game of Thrones is concerned, I think it would be best to have read the books first and I agree they are a great read. Not been disappointed with the TV version and looking forward to the new season.

by BamBam Sun 24 Mar 2013, 3:04 pm

I hadn't read the books before watching the show, and I think HBO do such a good job with shock moments that if I read ahead, it would spoil the show a little.

Things like Ned Stark's death, the end of the Blackwater episode etc just wouldn't have been the same if I knew what was going to happen

So I have been watching the series then reading the corresponding book immediately afterwards, then rewatching the series to see the differences.

Works for me!

by GSC Sun 24 Mar 2013, 7:45 pm

I pretty much always prefer the book.

by **Kenny** Tue 26 Mar 2013, 12:10 pm

i am doing the same as Bam Bam and reading the books after the tv series

by Guest Tue 26 Mar 2013, 12:14 pm

That would kill me. I can wait a year for a TV show, but knowing that there are books there I can read NOW? I couldn't do it.

by **Kenny** Tue 26 Mar 2013, 12:27 pm

it is tempting to read the books , but i watched the series first so i dont want to spoil things

by alfie Tue 26 Mar 2013, 10:15 pm

I'm with Azzy on this. Having seen the first series I went out and purchased the first book , but couldn't stop myself going back for the rest...waiting for the TV to catch up is just too much.
Anyone who can , I admire your self control.

by Guest Wed 27 Mar 2013, 11:40 am

I've got it bad though, I bought all the video games, I have half of the merchandise from the HBO website (like a dragon egg paperweight and "Ice" letter opener sitting on my desk...), you name it, I've got it. For me, the world Martin has created is superior to any I've ever immersed myself into before. I just hope he can get the books done, and to my satisfaction!

Season 3 starts on Monday Game of Thrones - May Contain Spoilers - Page 4 3559488474

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by Guest Wed 27 Mar 2013, 12:55 pm

I succumbed and bought it on your recomendation. Hopefully should get my current book finished by thye weekend so I can start this, I mean if you think this has bested the Lord of the Rings trilogy then thats a good enough endorsement for me

by GSC Wed 27 Mar 2013, 12:57 pm

I like the books, but they aren't better than the LotR trilogy

by Guest Wed 27 Mar 2013, 1:21 pm

LOTR was very one-dimensional. Bad monsters vs good people, ooh let's fire some arrows. Don't get me wrong, I love it, but GoT takes you deep into the characters' psyche, and there are so many plots, twists, betrayals, battles, intrigue, all as you see on screen - it has far surpassed LOTR in terms of depth and scope. LOTR/The Hobbit will always be the classic fantasy books that you give your 8 year old kid to read, but when they get to 12, I think GoT is where they should be pointed to next.

by teassoc Wed 27 Mar 2013, 1:40 pm

Azzy Mahmood wrote:LOTR was very one-dimensional. Bad monsters vs good people, ooh let's fire some arrows. Don't get me wrong, I love it, but GoT takes you deep into the characters' psyche, and there are so many plots, twists, betrayals, battles, intrigue, all as you see on screen - it has far surpassed LOTR in terms of depth and scope. LOTR/The Hobbit will always be the classic fantasy books that you give your 8 year old kid to read, but when they get to 12, I think GoT is where they should be pointed to next.

Agree that GoT is a superb read, and much more complex/challenging than anything else out there in the same genre that I can recall reading. Never could get into Tolkien.

by alfie Wed 27 Mar 2013, 2:34 pm

Think your average 8 year old would find LOTR a bit intimidating ...and I think you are being a bit dismissive there re Tolkein in general. It is a bit more than just a fairy tale.

But I don't disagree than Game of Thrones is a totally different animal. In complete contrast to Tolkein's work there is very little black and white and less heroic behaviour...much more down and dirty. The characters are all shown as human beings , creatures of their own culture - even the noblest of them have flaws (except Davos - my favourite Smile

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And just as important , you can feel some empathy with the villains of the story , at least those whose points of view are written. I have found myself warming more and more to Jamie Lannister as the books continue - so much so that I am having some difficulty in reconciling the character now with his action in book one of pushing Bran out the window...people can change I guess.

Won't catch the first couple of episodes of series three , alas ...there are some drawbacks to overseas holidays ! But no doubt I can catch up,when I return home.

Enjoy , everyone ! And I hope George gets on with finishing the next book soon...

by **Galted** Tue 02 Apr 2013, 10:43 am

Made the mistake of watching from 9 o'clock last night instead of going the sky + route, how many ad breaks is it possible to fit in? I think there was one after every two scenes, really stuffed up the show.

Was lucky to discover GoT relatively late so could watch the first two series a couple of episodes a night with no ads. A 9/10 week stint for series 3 is going to be quite frustrating.

by Hulking_up Tue 02 Apr 2013, 11:03 am

I sky+ the later showing and there is only about 2 ads in the ad breaks.
I too got into it late and only watched the season 2 finale Sunday night.
Zombies, dragons and giants. Hope it's going to be a great season.

by **Galted** Tue 02 Apr 2013, 1:40 pm

Hulking_up wrote:
Zombies, dragons and giants. Hope it's going to be a great season.

The giant was a nice touch last night, I must've looked as spellbound as Jon Snow was.

Reminded me of the cave troll in FOTR & the oliphaunts in TTT. Give you the impression that anything's possible.

by bluestonevedder Tue 02 Apr 2013, 2:30 pm

Really enjoyed the first episode last night. and it's great to be back into it! Like a few of you, I watched the first 2 series in the last month, so it's going to be difficult adopting the week wait in between each episode.

Daenerys Targaryen seems to be putting together a heck of an army,especially with her dragons too.

Thought Tyrion was excellent last night.

On a complete side note, does anyone think that Iain Glen would make an excellent Bond?

by **Galted** Tue 02 Apr 2013, 2:40 pm

bluestonevedder wrote:On a complete side note, does anyone think that Iain Glen would make an excellent Bond?

Good call that, seems quite obvious now that you've mentioned it. He's seemed quite miscast in GOT to me - then again it could just be because he's beardless & has short hair as I've thought the same about Aiden Gillen & Stephen Dillane.

by bluestonevedder Tue 02 Apr 2013, 2:49 pm

Yeh, my brother mentioned it and now I can't stop thinking what a great Bond he would be.

Can't really say about whether I think he's been miscast, since I haven't read the books. He's certainly one of my favourite characters in it though, I think he's superb. Want to see him kick some arse soon though!

by **Galted** Tue 02 Apr 2013, 2:52 pm

Just hasn't really looked the part to me. To be fair I'm not too sure what a personal advisor to a mother of dragons should really look like. Don't think I've met too many.

by bluestonevedder Tue 02 Apr 2013, 2:56 pm

Ha, fair point! I've read the description of him from his appearance in the books, and I can see why he doesn't quite seem to fit the role...

by randy-poffo Wed 03 Apr 2013, 10:49 am

Good start to season 3, the dialoge between tyrion and tywin was excerlent.
The reveal of barristan selmy although early was the right choice for the tv series. With it being nearly impossible to keep his ID a secret.

by Guest Wed 03 Apr 2013, 11:01 am

My thoughts:

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by Guest Mon 08 Apr 2013, 1:31 pm

Episode 2 tonight Game of Thrones - May Contain Spoilers - Page 4 3559488474

by bluestonevedder Tue 09 Apr 2013, 3:07 pm

haven't seen epidosde 2 yet, but how did it go down?

by Guest Tue 09 Apr 2013, 3:24 pm

Brief view of it:

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by Hoggy_Bear Tue 09 Apr 2013, 3:27 pm

bluestonevedder wrote:haven't seen epidosde 2 yet, but how did it go down?

Meh.
Bit of a filler episode in my view, not much happened but set the scene for later.
Notice a lot more differences from the books than, say, in the first series.

by bluestonevedder Tue 09 Apr 2013, 3:33 pm

Two contrasting replies, but cheers guys!

Love the second quote from Jamie Lannister

by Guest Tue 09 Apr 2013, 4:28 pm

For me, quite a lot happened (this just some of the content):

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by Mad for Chelsea Thu 11 Apr 2013, 12:58 am

now I see where Azzy and I have such different tastes (see Who thread), sorry Azzy. I watched the first half of the first series having read the first couple of books, and was genuinely un-excited by it all. Maybe because the episodes were a little too close to the books so there were no real surprises, but it just didn't get me that interested so I gave up after about half a season. There were obviously some very good scenes (Tyrion in general was excellent) but overall there was something lacking for me. Did it improve after that or is it genuinely just not my type of series?

by Guest Thu 11 Apr 2013, 9:47 am

It must be that it's not your kind of series, you're the only person I've ever heard say they stopped watching it. Even my 84 year old Grandad was hooked after watching 5mins of it.

by **Kenny** Thu 11 Apr 2013, 2:13 pm

My Mum loves it apart from the sex Laugh

, she doesn't mind people killing each other but as soon as they take their clothes off she freaks

by Guest Tue 16 Apr 2013, 3:59 pm

Okay, so Episode 3 was potentially the best of the entire show to date. What a great episode - Danaerys scenes, the Small Council scene, Pod the Love Machine, the Locke/Jaime scene. Truly great stuff. Partially spoiled for me by the song over the end credits.

by **Kenny** Tue 16 Apr 2013, 4:03 pm

yeh what the hell was that song about ? it didn't fit the show at all

Got to agree Azzy i thought it was a good episode , loved the bit with Pod the sex teacher

Danaerys is getting some balls which i like in a way but not sexually

by Guest Tue 16 Apr 2013, 4:17 pm

The song is the Bear and the Maiden Fair, which is one of the songs they sing in Westeros, but it was covered by some punk band and the writers liked it so much that they decided to put a song with electric guitars onto the end of a medieval fantasy drama picard

Dany's character has changed this season, and I really like it. Gone is the insecure girl who's desperate for help, and needs advice to tie her shoelaces. Now instead she's a confident leader, a conqueror-in-waiting who means business and won't take crapp from anyone. I really like the change, it's been handled well.

by randy-poffo Tue 16 Apr 2013, 8:30 pm

Another very good episode, I'm with you the ending title was totally out of place. Did you notice the singer from snow patrol singing the bear and the maiden far on horseback.
And finally the introduction of the blackfish.

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by **Galted** Wed 17 Apr 2013, 11:17 am

Ditto all of the above - great episode, especially the ending. wtf was with the music over the end credits?

by Guest Mon 22 Apr 2013, 10:31 pm

Tonight's episode was by far and away my favourite ever Game of Thrones - May Contain Spoilers - Page 4 3559488474

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by randy-poffo Tue 23 Apr 2013, 11:14 am

I'm not sure if was my favourite episode but it was in my top three.

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by Guest Tue 23 Apr 2013, 11:57 am

Varys is by far and away my favourite character on the show - but Thoros is going to run him close I think.

But in the books, I'm a Littlefinger man. He's been dealt a tough hand on the show so far.

by **Kenny** Tue 23 Apr 2013, 1:02 pm

Great episode , and another cracking ending

by Guest Tue 23 Apr 2013, 1:19 pm

What makes me sad is that we're already four episodes in. So much is happening that some storylines have barely progressed - Arya / Bran / Tyrion for example - yet others are doing rather well. And in seven weeks' time (they're skipping a week due to some holiday weekend in the States), we'll be another 10 months away from Season 4 Sad

They really need to bite the bullet and film two seasons at once, then show them six months apart.

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