New Zealand v England, Dunedin, 1st Test Thread

by Duty281 Tue 05 Mar 2013, 5:28 pm

First topic message reminder :

The three-test series starts at 21:30 GMT tonight. New Zealand are coming into this series very much as the outsiders, after being trounced in South Africa, although they did manage a surprise 1-1 series draw in Sri Lanka not too long ago. England, fresh off a historic series win in India, are very much the favourites and this is the start of a gruelling 15 Tests in the next 10 months against Australasian opposition, in a double Ashes year.

Expected Teams (Cricinfo):

New Zealand 1 Peter Fulton, 2 Hamish Rutherford, 3 Kane Williamson, 4 Ross Taylor, 5 Dean Brownlie, 6 Brendon McCullum (capt), 7 BJ Watling (wk), 8 Tim Southee, 9 Bruce Martin/Ian Butler, 10 Neil Wagner, 11 Trent Boult

England (probable) 1 Alastair Cook (capt), 2 Nick Compton, 3 Jonathan Trott, 4 Kevin Pietersen, 5 Ian Bell, 6 Joe Root, 7 Matt Prior (wk), 8 Stuart Broad, 9 Graeme Swann, 10 James Anderson, 11 Steven Finn

by Hoggy_Bear Wed 06 Mar 2013, 10:03 pm

Warks for a crisis

by mystiroakey Wed 06 Mar 2013, 10:07 pm

I think they need to get tougher on wides in test cricket!

These balls cant be hit

by NickisBHAFC Wed 06 Mar 2013, 10:15 pm

Trott will get 100.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 06 Mar 2013, 10:40 pm

Bell and Trott looking in good nick here, especially Bell.

Hopefully haven't put the jinx on them

by Corporalhumblebucket Wed 06 Mar 2013, 10:42 pm

Some sort of recovery in progress, helped by several poor balls... A really boring century by Trott would be very useful at this point.... Wink

by mystiroakey Wed 06 Mar 2013, 10:44 pm

Sadly these two will hang about too long and we have the draw.

waste of time

by Corporalhumblebucket Wed 06 Mar 2013, 10:49 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Sadly these two will hang about too long and we have the draw.

waste of time

This is test cricket. Need to respond to the situation of the game.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 06 Mar 2013, 10:55 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Sadly these two will hang about too long and we have the draw.

waste of time

Going along better now they have played themselves in. Plenty of time left in this test match as yet

by mystiroakey Wed 06 Mar 2013, 10:56 pm

is it test cricket?

wow really!! Wink

the situation is this.. 4 days to go..

if we get out for 280 in one and a half days we draw.. we cant win- we cant follow them on!

anyway its all good- roots in!! we have a shot at the win now!

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 06 Mar 2013, 10:56 pm

As I type that Bell goes picard

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 06 Mar 2013, 10:57 pm

mystiroakey wrote:is it test cricket?

wow really!!

the situation is this.. 4 days to go..

if we get out for 280 in one and a half days we draw.. we cant win- we cant follow them on!

anyway its all good- roots in!! we have a shot at the win now!

Yeah losing more wickets is a great way to win a test match

by Corporalhumblebucket Wed 06 Mar 2013, 10:59 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Sadly these two will hang about too long and we have the draw.

waste of time

They took your advice not to hang around. A few fours then out.... Shocked

by mystiroakey Wed 06 Mar 2013, 10:59 pm

it is when you are scoring to slow for the situation in hand- yes!

of course we bring the loss in to play..

by mystiroakey Wed 06 Mar 2013, 11:00 pm

anyway - Come on Root!

another different situation for him.. Can he handle this one as well

by mystiroakey Wed 06 Mar 2013, 11:12 pm

right well.. results happeining.

there is either something seriously wrong with this pitch or england..

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 06 Mar 2013, 11:13 pm

Lets lose wickets to try and win the match #mystilogic New Zealand v England, Dunedin, 1st Test Thread - Page 2 3559488474

by mystiroakey Wed 06 Mar 2013, 11:15 pm

Your purposely missinterpreting the point young chappy!!

but yeah not a bad positive spin on things!!!

71/5

jeas - who would have guessed that!

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 06 Mar 2013, 11:17 pm

Haha I'm only on the wind up Mysti! Smile

Yeah not a great start, would be a good time for Broad to get some runs...

by guildfordbat Wed 06 Mar 2013, 11:17 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Its kicked off.,

england bat.

need a quick 500 in a day and a half and then see if we can take 20 wickets

71-5 with three number 11s still to bat. Your 500 seems some way off, Mysti. Shocked

by mystiroakey Wed 06 Mar 2013, 11:19 pm

yeah my predos arnt happening so far..

we need trebbs to balance me out

by Corporalhumblebucket Wed 06 Mar 2013, 11:22 pm

Any sort of century - boring or otherwise - needed now from Trott

by trebellbobaggins Wed 06 Mar 2013, 11:23 pm

Good to see we've overcome our batting wobbles and aren't turning out a shambles in the first test like in India anyway.

Oh.

Sadly this is only day 2 and already england look to have handed NZ the match, one good innings and it'll be theirs. This series might bite England on the bum.

by Corporalhumblebucket Wed 06 Mar 2013, 11:25 pm

Two overs to lunch - important that we dont get bogged down..... Wink

by hodge Wed 06 Mar 2013, 11:48 pm

well that was....... bad

Just got to hope Trott can dig in and people can support him.

by mystiroakey Wed 06 Mar 2013, 11:55 pm

Anyone watching this achive footage?

Astle was pretty awesome- respect

however our fielders seemed a tenth of what they are today. They just didnt care back then.. They look like india on a bad day!

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu 07 Mar 2013, 12:33 am

Prior doing what Prior does and counter attacking

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu 07 Mar 2013, 12:33 am

I really need to stop doing that.

Prior's out

by hodge Thu 07 Mar 2013, 1:59 am

Could have been worse I suppose from the position we were in.

by **Pal Joey** Thu 07 Mar 2013, 3:45 am

Yes, that last wicket partnership helped.

by **Pal Joey** Thu 07 Mar 2013, 4:17 am

100 up for NZ.

by **Pal Joey** Thu 07 Mar 2013, 4:27 am

Rutherford dropped by KP off Broad.

by **Pal Joey** Thu 07 Mar 2013, 5:07 am

At the Close of Play, Day 2:

NZ are 131/0 and trail England by 36 runs.

Rutherford 77*
Fulton 46*

by aucklandlaurie Thu 07 Mar 2013, 5:41 am

If we are lucky we might pick up a draw here, the trouble is that its been years since weve put more than a good couple of days of test cricket together.

by **Biltong** Thu 07 Mar 2013, 5:47 am

When I went to bed last night England were three down, imagine my surprise this morning when I saw the score?

Day one was quite even, day two NZ completely dominated.

by subhranshu.kumar.5 Thu 07 Mar 2013, 6:51 am

The more you rate it high the more are the chances of failure. The same was being discussed all round the park and at the end of the day, black caps took away all the glances. It's unfortunate match for me to have no telecast here in India. English team lacked edge in all the spheres of the game.

by Duty281 Thu 07 Mar 2013, 7:20 am

Blimey, England have been caught cold. Early wickets needed on Day 3.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu 07 Mar 2013, 7:29 am

Bad day at the office for England. Gonna need bloody good ones from here on in to have a shout

by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Thu 07 Mar 2013, 8:34 am

Days like this are pretty rare in NZ cricket.

So if you don't mind I'm going to enjoy the moment (as it won't last long)

Yahoo

by **Biltong** Thu 07 Mar 2013, 8:49 am

Come on Pete, you gotsta have faith.

by VTR Thu 07 Mar 2013, 9:16 am

Diabolical

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu 07 Mar 2013, 9:28 am

I got faith England won't lose this.

We'll bounce back

by Bathman_in_London Thu 07 Mar 2013, 9:32 am

Ah the old feeling of praying for rain so we can claim a draw. It's been a while, but its like meeting up with an old friend...

by mystiroakey Thu 07 Mar 2013, 9:57 am

NZ

ENG

by **Biltong** Thu 07 Mar 2013, 9:58 am

mystiroakey wrote: NZ

ENG

SA

Sorry.

by trebellbobaggins Thu 07 Mar 2013, 9:59 am

to be honest that's pathetic first day for what is supposed to be one of the top sides.

once again with no preparation they have simply collapsed in the face of a bit of pressure and the opposition have made it look a road.

They bounced back in India but with each series I worry they are going further and further backwards. The Ashes could be painful but we could get hammered here a few times first.

by mystiroakey Thu 07 Mar 2013, 10:03 am

Dont worrys bud

SA wouldnt have had a day like that. That was as bad as it gets..

Gloat away!

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu 07 Mar 2013, 10:04 am

I place the blame squarely on mysti for prediciting a total of 500 plus Wink

by mystiroakey Thu 07 Mar 2013, 10:05 am

Blame trebbs Olly

He took this one for granted. And went missing when it mattered

by alfie Thu 07 Mar 2013, 10:15 am

Was at work so didn't see any of this (thanks for small mercies Smile

) , but followed , with growing horror , on cricinfo.

Has to be just about England's worst single day , especially opening day , in decades...I know there were some grim days in the UAE , and a right smashing at home against SA recently , but the damage in those matches was a bit more spread over several days : to be skittled on an apparently reasonable pitch and then see the opposition nearly overtake your paltry total without loss of a wicket ...
Reminds me a bit of the Melbourne Test in 2010 , but England were on the other end of the cosh that time Smile

Batting collapses have struck this group of players before , and I am almost more alarmed by the inability of the attack to even take a wicket in response ...is this to be Life Without Swann ? Was the bowling poor , flat or just unlucky ? Couple of catches spilled also suggests a poor mental state all round. Perhaps they weren't overconfident , but something wasn't right...

Barring lots more rain they are going to have to play with a lot more skill and spirit to avoid an innings defeat , probably in three days ! I know they have bounced back well from bad days recently (India , limited over series here in NZ ) but this is going to call on all the mental strength that I still believe they have.

Anyway , today : Well done NZ clap

by trebellbobaggins Thu 07 Mar 2013, 10:16 am

well done NZ and sadly welcome to the team England are now left with.

once again the glory days ended before they'd barely started.

England are never going to be able to reach the top and dominate like the aussies are they. Not strong enough mentally and never seem to keep a winning team together.

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