Will England score another try in this tournament?

After reading a thread bragging about England scoring tries in the 6 Nations todays England versus Italy game got me wondering, can England score another try in this tournament?

The opposition next week is Wales. Wales have not conceded a try in their last 3 games. In the tournament altogether they have conceded 3 tries (all against Ireland) which is the second best record in 6 Nations history; behind Wales' record of 2 and just ahead of England's record of 4. So far England have scored just 5 tries in the 2013 tournament. Going into todays game the fans claimed they would put a cricket score on Italy.

You let yourself down with threadcs like this mate.

For goodness sake! Why do you have to turn constructive debates into an arguement?! The facts are irrefutable so critique or agree.

another pathetic WUM attempt by Morg who seems to have taken over the WUM in chief role since view disappeared. Oh well...

Yes but how many have they scored. All round the numbers are pathetic. The poll should have been will ANYONE score a try this tournament, because in this tournament its an endangered spieces.

The fact is Wales haven't conceded tries in their last three games and England have scored just 5 in this tournament which is surprisingly low for them. I don't see what the problem is with highlighting these facts. This is a 6 Nations title on the line here.

Will England be confident next week? Do they need to force a few changes to the starting lineup?

Taylorman wrote:Yes but how many have they scored. All round the numbers are pathetic. The poll should have been will ANYONE score a try this tournament, because in this tournament its an endangered spieces.

Bit like the good SH refs?

Morgannwg wrote:The fact is Wales haven't conceded tries in their last three games and England have scored just 5 in this tournament which is surprisingly low for them. I don't see what the problem is with highlighting these facts. This is a 6 Nations title on the line here.

Will England be confident next week? Do they need to force a few changes to the starting lineup?

Mort you know exactly why you posted this thread, your fooling nobody.

Taylorman wrote:Yes but how many have they scored. All round the numbers are pathetic. The poll should have been will ANYONE score a try this tournament, because in this tournament its an endangered spieces.

It certainly is in this years tournament. It has been since England use to put 40+ past everyone. Probably a feat that won't ever be repeated by anyone including England.

Taylor, please take into consideration the OP. Hence me asking the question. Scoring tries next week will be fundamental to Englands title hopes and as I have pointed out they're up against the best defence in the tournament.

Morgannwg wrote:The fact is Wales haven't conceded tries in their last three games and England have scored just 5 in this tournament which is surprisingly low for them. I don't see what the problem is with highlighting these facts. This is a 6 Nations title on the line here.

Will England be confident next week? Do they need to force a few changes to the starting lineup?

Morg, its not Wales ability to stop tries as much as it is any sides abilities to score them. Theres a difference. All sides are not scoring. That is not a sign of ALL sides having good defences. Its is a sign of inept finishing skills and abilities. I wouldnt be so proud of that fact.

Morgannwg wrote:For goodness sake! Why do you have to turn constructive debates into an arguement?! The facts are irrefutable so critique or agree.

And what exactly constitutes constructive debate in the act of singling out the same team over and over again and asking a different yet equally pointless and provocative question every time? If anything your conduct is highly destructive to the functioning of forums like this. People are just wise to it now and hopefully don't take it upon themselves to bite that often. I feel undignified even lending this article my attention.

Taylor, you've totally missed the point of this thread. If you want to slag off the 6 Nations there are other threads for that. One was created by a fellow Kiwi of yours. The facts here are irrefutable. Again I would refer you to the OP and previous commentary but all of that seems lost on you.

Knowsit17 wrote:

Morgannwg wrote:For goodness sake! Why do you have to turn constructive debates into an arguement?! The facts are irrefutable so critique or agree.

And what exactly constitutes constructive debate in the act of singling out the same team over and over again and asking a different yet equally pointless and provocative question every time? If anything your conduct is highly destructive to the functioning of forums like this. People are just wise to it now and hopefully don't take it upon themselves to bite that often. I feel undignified even lending this article my attention.

Sigh. Read the OP. Scoring tries against the best defence in the tournament is a fundamental to England's cause. Sir Clive and Inverdale agree. If you can't answer the question don't comment on this thread.

Morgannwg wrote:

Knowsit17 wrote:

Morgannwg wrote:For goodness sake! Why do you have to turn constructive debates into an arguement?! The facts are irrefutable so critique or agree.

And what exactly constitutes constructive debate in the act of singling out the same team over and over again and asking a different yet equally pointless and provocative question every time? If anything your conduct is highly destructive to the functioning of forums like this. People are just wise to it now and hopefully don't take it upon themselves to bite that often. I feel undignified even lending this article my attention.

Sigh. Read the OP. Scoring tries against the best defence in the tournament is a fundamental to England's cause. Sir Clive and Inverdale agree. If you can't answer the question don't comment on this thread.

England can't score tries past themselves! Ireland are the 2nd best defence in the tournament, so I have no clue what you're on about.

Wales have conceded 3 tries. Ireland have conceded 4. England have conceded 4. You were right about Ireland having the second best defence in the tourny though .

I think he means "best defense" in terms of tries conceded, not points. The thing is, this shows Wales have a tendency to concede penalties, and England have a tendency to kick penalties, so we could well see England not scoring a try but still winning.

Great article, you have a really odd fascination with knocking the English constantly. A poor performance and suddenly 2 unfunny articles appear.

You're either very sad or very stupid.

Mad for Chelsea wrote:I think he means "best defense" in terms of tries conceded, not points. The thing is, this shows Wales have a tendency to concede penalties, and England have a tendency to kick penalties, so we could well see England not scoring a try but still winning.

That's true, but down to the poor ref's we have had. Joubert and Clancy .

Any idea who is taking charge of the game next week? Plays say Walsh.

Morgannwg wrote:Taylor, you've totally missed the point of this thread. If you want to slag off the 6 Nations there are other threads for that. One was created by a fellow Kiwi of yours. The facts here are irrefutable. Again I would refer you to the OP and previous commentary but all of that seems lost on you.

Ok Morg...No. England wont score a try...and neither will Wales. That is the most likeliest outcome.

In short no!
Lets remember the one against France was illegal, the Kiwi prop knocked it out of the ruck and the Samoan was in front of him picked it up and scored.

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Great article, you have a really odd fascination with knocking the English constantly. A poor performance and suddenly 2 unfunny articles appear.

You're either very sad or very stupid.

Or both, that would be my bet...

We have Poite next week,it will be a low scoring pathetic game with him in the middle

Taylorman wrote:

Morgannwg wrote:Taylor, you've totally missed the point of this thread. If you want to slag off the 6 Nations there are other threads for that. One was created by a fellow Kiwi of yours. The facts here are irrefutable. Again I would refer you to the OP and previous commentary but all of that seems lost on you.

Ok Morg...No. England wont score a try...and neither will Wales. That is the most likeliest outcome.

You're actually onto something here.

viewtothegym wrote:In short no!
Lets remember the one against France was illegal, the Kiwi prop knocked it out of the ruck and the Samoan was in front of him picked it up and scored.

The voice of reason as always view. I knew you would return. It's a shame people have to resort to childish insults when you point out some facts for the purpose of a constructive debate. These people should stay away from the TV and online forums.

Morgannwg wrote:

Taylorman wrote:

Morgannwg wrote:Taylor, you've totally missed the point of this thread. If you want to slag off the 6 Nations there are other threads for that. One was created by a fellow Kiwi of yours. The facts here are irrefutable. Again I would refer you to the OP and previous commentary but all of that seems lost on you.

Ok Morg...No. England wont score a try...and neither will Wales. That is the most likeliest outcome.

You're actually onto something here.

Its actually been my point all along. The lack of try scoring is not limited to England. Wales are just as good at it.

Taylorman wrote:

Morgannwg wrote:

Taylorman wrote:

Morgannwg wrote:Taylor, you've totally missed the point of this thread. If you want to slag off the 6 Nations there are other threads for that. One was created by a fellow Kiwi of yours. The facts here are irrefutable. Again I would refer you to the OP and previous commentary but all of that seems lost on you.

Ok Morg...No. England wont score a try...and neither will Wales. That is the most likeliest outcome.

You're actually onto something here.

Its actually been my point all along. The lack of try scoring is not limited to England. Wales are just as good at it.

Except Morg deemed it more interesting to solely discuss the tournament favourites in that regard.

Morgannwg wrote:

Taylorman wrote:

Morgannwg wrote:

Taylorman wrote:

Morgannwg wrote:Taylor, you've totally missed the point of this thread. If you want to slag off the 6 Nations there are other threads for that. One was created by a fellow Kiwi of yours. The facts here are irrefutable. Again I would refer you to the OP and previous commentary but all of that seems lost on you.

Ok Morg...No. England wont score a try...and neither will Wales. That is the most likeliest outcome.

You're actually onto something here.

Its actually been my point all along. The lack of try scoring is not limited to England. Wales are just as good at it.

Except Morg deemed it more interesting to solely discuss the tournament favourites in that regard.

Are you seriously referring to yourself in the third person, or did you just forget to change accounts?

You're right I forgot to change accounts. I'm clearly still in 'Roger Lewis/3rdgrandslamcoming' mode. Please stay on topic folks.

Morgannwg wrote:

Taylorman wrote:

Morgannwg wrote:

Taylorman wrote:

Morgannwg wrote:Taylor, you've totally missed the point of this thread. If you want to slag off the 6 Nations there are other threads for that. One was created by a fellow Kiwi of yours. The facts here are irrefutable. Again I would refer you to the OP and previous commentary but all of that seems lost on you.

Ok Morg...No. England wont score a try...and neither will Wales. That is the most likeliest outcome.

You're actually onto something here.

Its actually been my point all along. The lack of try scoring is not limited to England. Wales are just as good at it.

Except Morg deemed it more interesting to solely discuss the tournament favourites in that regard.

Sorry Morg...didnt realise this post was actually meant to be 'interesting'. Youre very deceptive. I thought it was a pitiful jealous little dig at ones neighbour who'd just received some bad news. So I'll leave you to your interesting thread. Sign of things to come I see for this week. You should run a poll on who will be most likeliest to be barred first. But then again...you might not be able to post the result. Have a good week Morg. And good luck with next week.

I see you took my advice Morg, welcome back view

Don't you worry that the only person who agrees with you is yourself?

Oh look a 45 year old who lives somewhere in France,who thinks England won a world cup and also made it to three other finals.

14 people say yes, I've only one question for you lot; have you even taken into account the facts I have posted for your consideration?

Taylorman wrote:Yes but how many have they scored. All round the numbers are pathetic. The poll should have been will ANYONE score a try this tournament, because in this tournament its an endangered spieces.

Taylor sorry about getting your hopes up yo.. No trys for england. I have no idea how we didnt get one over.. but yep its lame..

I posted no based on your facts morg

Quite on here tonight, looks like the England fans have gone back to the Football boards.

viewtothegym wrote:In short no!
Lets remember the one against France was illegal, the Kiwi prop knocked it out of the ruck and the Samoan was in front of him picked it up and scored.

Grannygate alert!

I think we'll score again. Have to be helluva lot more composed and clinical than today tho.

Why does Morg now refer to himself in the 3rd person? Does he have DPD?

Breadvan wrote:

viewtothegym wrote:In short no!
Lets remember the one against France was illegal, the Kiwi prop knocked it out of the ruck and the Samoan was in front of him picked it up and scored.

Grannygate alert!

Typical English talking about the past, talk about the now for a change. Right now Wales are the Champs and England seem to be the adoptive nation for players looking for a quick buck.

Unfortunately negative content does not always encourage constructive debate.

Rather than focusing on the negative, the positives should be brought to the attention of the reader as well.

Such as the fact that England is unbeaten, and irrespective of a couple of poor performances still manages to win.

The question should be what can they do to continue their unbeaten form, which is what brought them here.

Not really. Just can't fathom how you can slate our foreign born, yet qualified,players when what went on back in the day G Henry was winning all those games with you know who....

Biltong wrote:Unfortunately negative content does not always encourage constructive debate.

Rather than focusing on the negative, the positives should be brought to the attention of the reader as well.

Such as the fact that England is unbeaten, and irrespective of a couple of poor performances still manages to win.

The question should be what can they do to continue their unbeaten form, which is what brought them here.

I think you just wasted 1 minute of your life mate trying to bring reason to the boards today

The question should be what can they do to continue their unbeaten form, which is what brought them here.

The immediate answer might be: keep nailing their kicks and limit the amount of pens given away to the opposition. Or if that fails, hope the opposition miss their kicks.

thebluesmancometh wrote:

Biltong wrote:Unfortunately negative content does not always encourage constructive debate.

Rather than focusing on the negative, the positives should be brought to the attention of the reader as well.

Such as the fact that England is unbeaten, and irrespective of a couple of poor performances still manages to win.

The question should be what can they do to continue their unbeaten form, which is what brought them here.

I think you just wasted 1 minute of your life mate trying to bring reason to the boards today

took a bit longer, I am on the Ipad and only using one finger.

Biltong wrote:

The question should be what can they do to continue their unbeaten form, which is what brought them here.

That's not the question in this thread.

Morgannwg wrote:

Biltong wrote:

The question should be what can they do to continue their unbeaten form, which is what brought them here.

That's not the question in this thread.

no it's not, I am adding additional points of debate.

Biltong wrote:

thebluesmancometh wrote:

Biltong wrote:Unfortunately negative content does not always encourage constructive debate.

Rather than focusing on the negative, the positives should be brought to the attention of the reader as well.

Such as the fact that England is unbeaten, and irrespective of a couple of poor performances still manages to win.

The question should be what can they do to continue their unbeaten form, which is what brought them here.

I think you just wasted 1 minute of your life mate trying to bring reason to the boards today

took a bit longer, I am on the Ipad and only using one finger.

More fool you, the Ipad should be reserved for angry birds and blue movies when the missus is in bed and your under the cover...

Oh dear another pathetic attempt at a wum from a serial wummer. We could do with someone coming on here and calling him a complete Muppet so that the thread gets locked.

Sigh, the keyboard warriors are back. The facts are irrefutable.

thebluesmancometh wrote:

Biltong wrote:

thebluesmancometh wrote:

Biltong wrote:Unfortunately negative content does not always encourage constructive debate.

Rather than focusing on the negative, the positives should be brought to the attention of the reader as well.

Such as the fact that England is unbeaten, and irrespective of a couple of poor performances still manages to win.

The question should be what can they do to continue their unbeaten form, which is what brought them here.

I think you just wasted 1 minute of your life mate trying to bring reason to the boards today

took a bit longer, I am on the Ipad and only using one finger.

More fool you, the Ipad should be reserved for angry birds and blue movies when the missus is in bed and your under the cover...

done with Angry birds, now play pool on it

thebluesmancometh wrote:

Biltong wrote:

thebluesmancometh wrote:

Biltong wrote:Unfortunately negative content does not always encourage constructive debate.

Rather than focusing on the negative, the positives should be brought to the attention of the reader as well.

Such as the fact that England is unbeaten, and irrespective of a couple of poor performances still manages to win.

The question should be what can they do to continue their unbeaten form, which is what brought them here.

I think you just wasted 1 minute of your life mate trying to bring reason to the boards today

took a bit longer, I am on the Ipad and only using one finger.

More fool you, the Ipad should be reserved for angry birds and blue movies when the missus is in bed and your under the cover...

Lol married life eh!