Glasgow Warriors v Leinster Rugby, 20 September

by **George Carlin** Mon 16 Sep 2013, 11:28 am

First topic message reminder :

Glasgow Warriors v Leinster Rugby

Friday 20th September 2013, KO 19:35
Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow

Referee: Peter Fitzgibbon (IRFU, 48th competition game)
Assistant Referees: Neil Paterson, Adrian Graves (both SRU)
Citing Commissioner: Paul Minto (SRU)
TMO: Iain Ramage (SRU)

LIVE on BBC ALBA and TG4

A. Teams:

1. Glasgow
15. Stuart Hogg
14. Sean Lamont
13. Mark Bennett
12. Alex Dunbar
11. DTH van der Merwe
10. Ruaridh Jackson
9. Chris Cusiter (Captain)

1. Ryan Grant
2. Pat MacArthur
3. Jon Welsh
4. Jonny Gray
5. Tim Swinson
6. Rob Harley
7. Chris Fusaro
8. Richie Vernon

16. Dougie Hall
17. Jerry Yanuyanutawa
18. Ed Kalman
19. James Eddie
20. Josh Strauss
21. Henry Pyrgos
22. Scott Wight
23. Byron McGuigan

2. Leinster
15: Ian Madigan
14: Dave Kearney
13: Brendan Macken
12: Gordon D'Arcy
11: Darragh Fanning
10: Jimmy Gopperth
9: Isaac Boss

1: Jack McGrath
2: Richardt Strauss
3: Mike Ross
4: Mike McCarthy
5: Tom Denton
6: Kevin McLaughlin
7: Shane Jennings CAPTAIN
8: Jordi Murphy

REPLACEMENTS:

16: Aaron Dundon
17: Cian Healy
18: Martin Moore
19: Devin Toner
20: Dominic Ryan
21: Eoin Reddan
22: Noel Reid
23: Rob Kearney

B. Form - head to head:

32 Played 32
8 Wins 23
23 Losses 8
1 Draws 1
60 Tries 88
39 Conversions 61
62 Penalties 86
3 Drop Goals 1
573 Points 823
25 Avg. Age 26

C. Form - last season:

Friday 23 November 2012, 19:35: Scotstoun
Glasgow Warriors 0 - 6 Leinster Rugby

Saturday 23 March 2013, 19:45: Royal Dublin Society
Leinster Rugby 22 - 17 Glasgow Warriors

Play Offs
Saturday 11 May 2013, 19:35: Royal Dublin Society
Leinster Rugby 17 - 15 Glasgow Warriors

D. Glasgow fans lexicon:

Time on these boards has demonstrated that Glasgow fans use an uncommonly broad selection of nicknames and slang to describe the various members of their team.

For those unfamiliar with this gibberish:

Alphabetty Spaghetti - D.T.H. van der Merwe, wing
Angel - Gabriel Ascarate, centre
Angela - Jon Welsh, prop
Barry - Byron McGuigan, wing
Big Boab - (see Ginger Tackle Monster, the)
Big Mike - (see Coo, the)
Big Naka - Leone Nakarawa, lock/loosie
Bluto - Josh Strauss, loosie/no.8
Centre, the - (see Lesser Messiah, the)
Coo, the - Michael Cusack, prop
Cooseetah - (see Cus)
Cus - Chris Cusiter, scrum half
DTH - (see Alphabetty Spaghetti)
Flippy - (see Toonie)
Fozzy - Christopher Fusaro, loosie
Furra Lineeeee - Peter Horne, centre
Ginger Tackle Monster, the - Rob Harley, loosie
Guns - Tim Swinson, lock
Henners - Henry Pyrgos, scrum half
Hoggy - Stuart Hogg, full back/wing/centre
Ickle Jon - Jonny Gray, lock
Jedi - James Eddie, loosie
Lesser Messiah, the - Richie Vernon, loosie/no.8
Mark of Nazareth - (see Messiah, the)
Meatball, the - Duncan Weir, fly half
Messiah, the/ angel

- Mark Bennett, centre
Niko - Nikola Matawalu, scrum half
Niko's Mate - Jerry Yanuyanutawa, prop
No Maits - Sean Maitland, wing
Rhubarb - Ruaridh Jackson, fly half
Ruck Inspector, the - Alastair Kellock, lock
Schlong - Sean Lamont, centre/wing
Sherlock - Tyrone Holmes, loosie
Shrek - Gordon Reid, prop
Toonie - Gregor Peter John Townsend MBE, head coach
Wee P - Pat MacArthur, hooker
Weegie from Fiji, the - (see Niko)

by Jenifer McLadyboy Thu 19 Sep 2013, 12:54 pm

Madigan's haircut was very short lived. didn't even make the end of last season.

by alive555 Thu 19 Sep 2013, 1:00 pm

why is strauss on the bench ?

by Jenifer McLadyboy Thu 19 Sep 2013, 1:06 pm

He's not the messiah. He's a very naughty boy.

by **George Carlin** Thu 19 Sep 2013, 1:40 pm

Very good looking team. Every prettier than Leinster in fact, Jen. Six cents:

1. Delighted Angela is back. He's streets ahead of Kalman and was better than Low last season. In the absence of Cusack, I think that's our strongest front row.

2. Kalman played with all the nous of a runaway sofa last week. Would much prefer Shrek on the bench, truth be told. Jedi will cover lock - not ideal, but he can do it - he's done it for years.

3. I suspect Strauss is lacking a little fitness - happy with him as the ultimate impact sub. He will be a wrecking ball with 25 to go.

4. Where are Maitland and Big Naka?

5. Barry rewarded for pre-season form, justifiably too. Wight must be training better than Russell at the moment because apart from his reasonably good kicking doesn't offer much other than a chance to laugh at his toilet brush hair.

Leinster team looks good and the bench is crazily strong. Anyone know how Ross and O'Strauss are playing at the moment?

by Dorothy_Mantooth Thu 19 Sep 2013, 1:45 pm

George Carlin wrote:Very good looking team. Every prettier than Leinster in fact, Jen. Six cents:

1. Delighted Angela is back. He's streets ahead of Kalman and was better than Low last season. In the absence of Cusack, I think that's our strongest front row.

2. Kalman played with all the nous of a runaway sofa last week. Would much prefer Shrek on the bench, truth be told. Jedi will cover lock - not ideal, but he can do it - he's done it for years.

3. I suspect Strauss is lacking a little fitness - happy with him as the ultimate impact sub. He will be a wrecking ball with 25 to go.

4. Where are Maitland and Big Naka?

5. Barry rewarded for pre-season form, justifiably too. Wight must be training better than Russell at the moment because apart from his reasonably good kicking doesn't offer much other than a chance to laugh at his toilet brush hair.

Leinster team looks good and the bench is crazily strong. Anyone know how Ross and O'Strauss are playing at the moment?

Can only think with Maitland playing a full SH season last year and coming straight into a full NH one that he is getting a few extra weeks off.

Having seen both teams, I think I want to revise my initial prediction of a 30 point win for us:doh:

by Dorothy_Mantooth Thu 19 Sep 2013, 1:47 pm

Leinster really do have some strength in depth. Its the likes of you and Munster that are really to blame for the HC falling apart.

Had you Irish just been like us Scots and Welsh and let the French and English, year in year out dominate the HC, they would not have taken the huff.

by Jenifer McLadyboy Thu 19 Sep 2013, 1:53 pm

Risteard O'Streabhas scored a try in his first start last week. Little cracker he is.

Rosser is plodding along nicely getting to grips with the new scrum.

Benched in scarlets, started last week.

by Jenifer McLadyboy Thu 19 Sep 2013, 1:54 pm

I would give us a good chance of a lbp, and a slim chance of a win.

by Dorothy_Mantooth Thu 19 Sep 2013, 3:40 pm

Warriors twitter feed saying that Cusack has had another surgery and is now out till at least the New Year. Kellock should be back for the HC.

by IanBru Thu 19 Sep 2013, 4:05 pm

Oh feic it.

by Manky-Flanker Thu 19 Sep 2013, 4:10 pm

Dorothy_Mantooth wrote:Warriors twitter feed saying that Cusack has had another surgery and is now out till at least the New Year. Kellock should be back for the HC.

That'll be over a year he has been sidelined. Hopefully, this new surgery will sort him out and he will be back sooner rather than later. He must be gutted, especially as a few months ago they were confident he would be back for the early part of the new season. Crying or Very sad

by **RDW** Thu 19 Sep 2013, 4:19 pm

On a completely unrelated matter, does anyone know if Richie Gray has been playing for Castres yet?

by Manky-Flanker Thu 19 Sep 2013, 4:26 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:On a completely unrelated matter, does anyone know if Richie Gray has been playing for Castres yet?

Yup he's been playing.

by **RDW** Thu 19 Sep 2013, 4:30 pm

Playing well?

by funnyExiledScot Thu 19 Sep 2013, 4:34 pm

That's a blow regarding Cusack. Hopefully he'll get himself fully fit for the end of season run-in. Glasgow need him.

Great that the entire Glasgow pack is Scots qualified (and all the backs minus one). Really encouraging.

by Manky-Flanker Thu 19 Sep 2013, 4:35 pm

No idea

haven't seen any of Castres games. However, he has been posting pictures of his recent matches.

by **George Carlin** Thu 19 Sep 2013, 5:04 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:That's a blow regarding Cusack. Hopefully he'll get himself fully fit for the end of season run-in. Glasgow need him.

Great that the entire Glasgow pack is Scots qualified (and all the backs minus one) and are actually half decent at playing rugby. Really encouraging.

by funnyExiledScot Thu 19 Sep 2013, 5:27 pm

George Carlin wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:That's a blow regarding Cusack. Hopefully he'll get himself fully fit for the end of season run-in. Glasgow need him.

Great that the entire Glasgow pack is Scots qualified (and all the backs minus one) and are actually half decent at playing rugby. Really encouraging.

Yes, an important qualification....

I'm also genuinely pleased that we're seeing Bennett emerging finally as a first choice starter for his club side. Finally we'll be able to take a proper look and make well informed judgments as to his readiness for international rugby. We're only two games in and, despite NDL's excellent individual score against Munster, I'd say Bennett is now the form option for Scotland at 13.

Another player who is getting some rugby now is Duncan Taylor at Sarries with Barritt out injured. Hopefully he'll get some decent playing time this season as well.

I think it's going to be a tough selection process for Scott Johnson in these AIs.

by VinceWLB Thu 19 Sep 2013, 8:38 pm

Dorothy_Mantooth wrote:Warriors twitter feed saying that Cusack has had another surgery and is now out till at least the New Year.

That's the Heineken cup QF gone then...

IMO.

by Golden Thu 19 Sep 2013, 9:16 pm

Odd that Fitz isnt involved yet he was named in the Irish training squad

by 21st Century Schizoid Man Thu 19 Sep 2013, 11:04 pm

cakeordeath wrote:Can anyone recommend a bar near the stadium? Also how good is the beer/food selection at the ground

Cake, forget these japesters. No good pubs near the ground. Byres Road is best option then taxi or bus to the Scotstoun. Otherwise get to the Gym Hall and have a Curry and cava mate Bubbly

by 21st Century Schizoid Man Thu 19 Sep 2013, 11:12 pm

I should add duderinos, that I have succumbed to a horrible lurgy from The Zambesi and am now nocturnal only - this is nothing to do with Mrs Schiz saying how come you guys (and me natch) spend all (working ) day posting stuff on here. Honestly she actually said that. I mean canoe trip down a major African river ffs - how much more can you spoil a girl -jeez Shocked

by 21st Century Schizoid Man Thu 19 Sep 2013, 11:13 pm

And also btw where the flying feck is Gibson ?

by IanBru Thu 19 Sep 2013, 11:17 pm

I last saw Gibbo on one of the myriad of HC vegetable-comparing threads.

by IanBru Thu 19 Sep 2013, 11:20 pm

Schitz, microwave some Irn-Bru, then add four shots of Calpol. Microwave again, then add an umbrella.

You'll be right as rain, son.

by 21st Century Schizoid Man Thu 19 Sep 2013, 11:34 pm

Aye Ian, a few bottles of tasty TUSKER ale (African pure pish but gets you hammered) and I can assure you no sleep whatsoever - strap yersel to the lavvy and its take off time. Anyway whats all this bollix about Buckfast ? No self respecting Weegie would touch that schieze tbh ! Leave that English confection to the Lanarkshire lads. Pints and depth charges is what we do here in the city as you well know .
Anyway see The Meatball turns out for Stirling County on Saturday - good on ye wee man (ASBO will be well proud !!!!)

by **George Carlin** Fri 20 Sep 2013, 7:07 am

Schiz - did you remember to take ani-malerials with you? Mind you, the symptoms are constant thirst and mania, so how would we know if you are ill or not? Wink

by 21st Century Schizoid Man Fri 20 Sep 2013, 7:43 am

George Carlin wrote:Schiz - did you remember to take ani-malerials with you? Mind you, the symptoms are constant thirst and mania, so how would we know if you are ill or not?

GC, i did take anti-MALARIALS in the form of tonic water diluted by Hendricks "Och Aye The Noo" gin from Ayrshire. Mind you after surviving the mega storm in the Bay of Biscay on Monday night I felt somewhat obliged to have a brace of stiffeners to thank the diety (?) for surviving- it was that bad.

Anyway powerful Leinster line up tonight - we will have to be at our best. Any idea why Tommy Seymour is not featuring ? Heard he scored a cracker v Cardiff a fortnight ago.

by Dorothy_Mantooth Fri 20 Sep 2013, 7:44 am

Game tonight is a total sell out. Hardly earth shattering news to wider Rugby community, but a couple of years ago we could barley break 3,000 for League games and that usually that relied on a large traveling support presence.

by 21st Century Schizoid Man Fri 20 Sep 2013, 8:05 am

Good point Dot. It (that is the whole WARRIORS set up)is building slowly but surely. The Toonie appointment is looking better and better - only trace muppetry present now !!!! Cool

by jimbopip Fri 20 Sep 2013, 8:10 am

Cakeordeath, Schiz speaks the truth! Scotstoun is in a fairly residential area so no go on the watering hole front. If you arrive earlyish at the ground go to theGym Hall, or Scout Hut as it is sometimes called. It has a bar and reasonably priced, decent quality curries. You will recognise Schiz as he will be the elderly gentleman buying drinks for all and sundry while performing his latest mime; "Crossing the Bay on the bowl". he may even read from his dissertation, "Why Bluto is sexier than Angelina, but not as much fun in a ruck."
Good luck.

by 21st Century Schizoid Man Fri 20 Sep 2013, 8:36 am

Jimbo,
thought you were off arranging a coup d'etat in Latvia or Lithuania or somewhere like that ?

by cakeordeath Fri 20 Sep 2013, 9:23 am

jimbopip wrote:Cakeordeath, Schiz speaks the truth! Scotstoun is in a fairly residential area so no go on the watering hole front. If you arrive earlyish at the ground go to theGym Hall, or Scout Hut as it is sometimes called. It has a bar and reasonably priced, decent quality curries. You will recognise Schiz as he will be the elderly gentleman buying drinks for all and sundry while performing his latest mime; "Crossing the Bay on the bowl". he may even read from his dissertation, "Why Bluto is sexier than Angelina, but not as much fun in a ruck."
Good luck.

Thanks Schiz and jimbopip. Being a Merchant City boy I have decided to cross to the dark side (or the West End/Edinburgh Light as it is known) for a pre-game tipple. Really looking forward to it.

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Fri 20 Sep 2013, 9:23 am

funnyExiledScot wrote:
George Carlin wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:That's a blow regarding Cusack. Hopefully he'll get himself fully fit for the end of season run-in. Glasgow need him.

Great that the entire Glasgow pack is Scots qualified (and all the backs minus one) and are actually half decent at playing rugby. Really encouraging.
Yes, an important qualification....

I'm also genuinely pleased that we're seeing Bennett emerging finally as a first choice starter for his club side. Finally we'll be able to take a proper look and make well informed judgments as to his readiness for international rugby. We're only two games in and, despite NDL's excellent individual score against Munster, I'd say Bennett is now the form option for Scotland at 13 and has been for years.

Another player who is getting some rugby now is Duncan Taylor at Sarries with Barritt out injured. Hopefully he'll get some decent playing time this season as well.

I think it's going to be a tough selection process for Scott Johnson in these AIs.

Glad that the penny has finally dropped - its been like pulling feicing teeth censored

by IanBru Fri 20 Sep 2013, 9:37 am

Is this the point when we all start speaking in tongues?

by **RDW** Fri 20 Sep 2013, 10:00 am

Sorry for getting back on Rugby weegies but looks like Finn Russell is staying where he is – Edinburgh Tweeted saying the rumours behind him being loaned to Edinburgh are false.

Hope that doesn’t mean we’re getting Scott Wight instead…! picard

by cakeordeath Fri 20 Sep 2013, 10:02 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:Sorry for getting back on Rugby weegies but looks like Finn Russell is staying where he is – Edinburgh Tweeted saying the rumours behind him being loaned to Edinburgh are false.

Hope that doesn’t mean we’re getting Scott Wight instead…!

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Fri 20 Sep 2013, 10:13 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:Sorry for getting back on Rugby weegies but looks like Finn Russell is staying where he is – Edinburgh Tweeted saying the rumours behind him being loaned to Edinburgh are false.

Hope that doesn’t mean we’re getting Scott Wight instead…!

Altho Wight would be a step-up from Two First Names tbh, RDW

by **RDW** Fri 20 Sep 2013, 10:33 am

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:Sorry for getting back on Rugby weegies but looks like Finn Russell is staying where he is – Edinburgh Tweeted saying the rumours behind him being loaned to Edinburgh are false.

Hope that doesn’t mean we’re getting Scott Wight instead…!
Altho Wight would be a step-up from Two First Names tbh, RDW

Don’t know about that, both are inconsistent, kick straight into touch, miss goal kicks and make mistakes –Piers is good in defence and makes the odd line break!

I’d never thought I’d defend him but I’d rather Piers over Wight, although saying that at least Wight is SQ.

by asoreleftshoulder Fri 20 Sep 2013, 10:48 am

Dorothy_Mantooth wrote:Game tonight is a total sell out. Hardly earth shattering news to wider Rugby community, but a couple of years ago we could barley break 3,000 for League games and that usually that relied on a large traveling support presence.

Great to hear that,you've a really good team there and they deserve to play in front of good crowds.

by Dorothy_Mantooth Fri 20 Sep 2013, 10:59 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:Sorry for getting back on Rugby weegies but looks like Finn Russell is staying where he is – Edinburgh Tweeted saying the rumours behind him being loaned to Edinburgh are false.

Hope that doesn’t mean we’re getting Scott Wight instead…!

What you guys sign a Scottish player? Can't see that happening, not really the done thing these days through your way Very Happy

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Fri 20 Sep 2013, 11:12 am

Dorothy_Mantooth wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:Sorry for getting back on Rugby weegies but looks like Finn Russell is staying where he is – Edinburgh Tweeted saying the rumours behind him being loaned to Edinburgh are false.

Hope that doesn’t mean we’re getting Scott Wight instead…!
What you guys sign a Scottish player? Can't see that happening, not really the done thing these days through your way

Nae welcome if you don't eat biltong (no offence, big B! Hug

)

by Jenifer McLadyboy Fri 20 Sep 2013, 11:16 am

asoreleftshoulder wrote:
Dorothy_Mantooth wrote:Game tonight is a total sell out. Hardly earth shattering news to wider Rugby community, but a couple of years ago we could barley break 3,000 for League games and that usually that relied on a large traveling support presence.
Great to hear that,you've a really good team there and they deserve to play in front of good crowds.

be sure and ask him how many punters constitutes a full house at this time of year before getting too impressed.....

by asoreleftshoulder Fri 20 Sep 2013, 11:39 am

Ah I know capacity is only around 8000 but it's a start and if they're filling the ground there will be an atmosphere at least.

by **RDW** Fri 20 Sep 2013, 11:40 am

Try 5000...

by **RDW** Fri 20 Sep 2013, 11:46 am

And BTW I'm not mocking 5000 - Edinburgh are 1400 people away from regularly getting 5000 - but there is a big difference between 5k and 8k.

Still, this is the first time EVER in Scottish pro rugby that there is a demand for tickets. It doesn't matter that it is only 5k - we need to start somewhere and if Glasgow keep these crowds up they can look to expand Scotstoun on a permanent basis as opposed to the temporary stands they through up for this big games.

by asoreleftshoulder Fri 20 Sep 2013, 11:47 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:Try 5000...

Huh was sure it was bigger than that,oh well still better to have a small stadium full to capacity than a big one with empty stands.

by **George Carlin** Fri 20 Sep 2013, 11:48 am

Jenifer McLadyboy wrote:
asoreleftshoulder wrote:
Dorothy_Mantooth wrote:Game tonight is a total sell out. Hardly earth shattering news to wider Rugby community, but a couple of years ago we could barley break 3,000 for League games and that usually that relied on a large traveling support presence.
Great to hear that,you've a really good team there and they deserve to play in front of good crowds.
be sure and ask him how many punters constitutes a full house at this time of year before getting too impressed.....

Saucer of milk to Dublin, please.

It's' about 40 per cent up on last year Jen. Try teling the average Glaswegian there is more than one ball game in town.

by **RDW** Fri 20 Sep 2013, 11:52 am

asoreleftshoulder wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:Try 5000...
Huh was sure it was bigger than that,oh well still better to have a small stadium full to capacity than a big one with empty stands.

Scotstoun capacity is 5k - they increase it to 8k+ with temporary stands for the bigger games. The temporary stands cost a fortune though.

by Jenifer McLadyboy Fri 20 Sep 2013, 11:53 am

George Carlin wrote:
Jenifer McLadyboy wrote:
asoreleftshoulder wrote:
Dorothy_Mantooth wrote:Game tonight is a total sell out. Hardly earth shattering news to wider Rugby community, but a couple of years ago we could barley break 3,000 for League games and that usually that relied on a large traveling support presence.
Great to hear that,you've a really good team there and they deserve to play in front of good crowds.
be sure and ask him how many punters constitutes a full house at this time of year before getting too impressed.....
Saucer of milk to Dublin, please.

It's' about 40 per cent up on last year Jen. Try teling the average Glaswegian there is more than one ball game in town.

Harsh on the milk there Georgio. Smile

Asore. the temp stands at each end are not there at this time of year due to it being also an athletics stadium also.

A bit like similar stands are removed from the rds for the horseshow.

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