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Post by KP_fan on Sun 02 Feb 2014, 6:59 am

the tour practice game started and pandey ended up being the most potent and successful bowler.
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Post by msp83 on Sun 02 Feb 2014, 7:24 am

Jadeja and Shami didn't play. I Assume they both should be joining Zaheer in the bowling attack. Ishant Sharma picked up a couple of wickets, but thankfully, he went at over 4 an over (not that it might be enough to keep him out), and Umesh Yadav wasn't able to take more than a wicket and also gave away runs. Pandey took 3 wickets, a good start from him as far as putting forward his claims for a test place.

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Post by msp83 on Sun 02 Feb 2014, 7:26 am

Murali Vijay and Shikhar Dhawan batted out 14 overs to score 41. Vijay on 19 of 52, Dhawan on 16 of 34.

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Post by msp83 on Sun 02 Feb 2014, 7:27 am

Bloody Ishant bowled as many as 10 no-balls in his 14 overs. What a waste!.

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Post by KP_fan on Sun 02 Feb 2014, 1:41 pm

msp83 wrote:Bloody Ishant bowled as many as 10 no-balls in his 14 overs. What a waste!.

the ones that did not come to play the side game are the ones who are certain.........shami, Bhuvi, Jadeja are certain as bowlers.
The remaining 2 positions will go to most likely Zaheer who should show his fitness....and the otehr one was designed to go to Ishant...but Pandey threw water over the best made plans.

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Post by KP_fan on Mon 03 Feb 2014, 6:52 am

the continued failure of the openers is worrying.....as they failed to convert their starts into anything meaningful against a bening attack

Atleast Vijay did well in SA....this is the make or break series for Dhwan...if he doesn't get runs in two tests here....I doubt if he will make it to UK
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Post by msp83 on Mon 03 Feb 2014, 7:46 am

Ajinkya Rahane scored a half-century before retiring, so did Rohit Sharma. Cheteshwar Pujara, Ravichandran Ashwin and Ambati Rayudu also made some runs.
As for the make up of the bowling unit, Zaheer would be the first name, Shami and Jadeja should also make it. It is the 4th bowler position that has to be filled. Pandey has made a strong case for himself. I won't mind if its anyone other than Ishant.

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Post by KP_fan on Wed 05 Feb 2014, 8:14 am

It seems with Dhoni's logic....ishant is the one certain of his spot already Smile

Ishant was the third seamer alongside Zaheer and Shami in South Africa. Ishant averages less than three wickets a Test, but Dhoni said as the third fast bowler his role was to not let the opposition get away when the ball stopped moving around. "More often than not we have used him as a one-change bowler," Dhoni said. "That again becomes a very crucial slot. At times with the Kookaburra ball, you don't get a lot of swing after 25-30 overs. It is important you keep hitting the same length, and try to get the batsmen out with his extra bounce. It will be crucial for him to keep it tight, keep bowling in the same areas, keep repeating the action, keep hitting the length we want him to, and build on pressure.
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Post by msp83 on Wed 05 Feb 2014, 8:22 am

So OK. The wicket taking expectations are already down to 3 bowlers. The no-hoper is set to play....... The selectors will have to take the call and not pick him in the squad, that is the only way he's not going to play.

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Post by msp83 on Wed 05 Feb 2014, 12:21 pm

Even the cricinfo preview seems to think that the 3rd seamer call is between Ishant and Bhuvneshwar Kumar. Ishwar Pandey doesn't even seem to be in the mix.

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Post by KP_fan on Wed 05 Feb 2014, 1:24 pm

msp83 wrote:Even the cricinfo preview seems to think that the 3rd seamer call is between Ishant and Bhuvneshwar Kumar. Ishwar Pandey doesn't even seem to be in the mix.

it's appalling that Ishant is ahead in reckoning of Bhuvi, Yadav and Pandey...truly appalling

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Post by skyeman on Wed 05 Feb 2014, 5:47 pm

Shall watch at 10pm. Won't be easy for India. Since BM took over NZ have been playing much better and Taylor looks world class at the moment.

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Post by msp83 on Wed 05 Feb 2014, 9:37 pm

Not the best of news, some bad weather to mark the start of the series. The toss delayed. Looks like bad light rather than serious rain at the moment.

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Post by msp83 on Wed 05 Feb 2014, 9:55 pm

India won the toss and are bowling. There is lot of grass on the pitch, and it is not very hard reckons Simon Doull. There should be some movement but not too much pace.
India have gone in with Ishant Sharma. He better not continue to exasperate, but not betting my house on it!.
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Post by Gerry SA on Wed 05 Feb 2014, 10:02 pm

Is Ishant having an affair with Dhoni's wife?

How's this clown always in the starting XI?

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Post by Pal Joey on Wed 05 Feb 2014, 10:30 pm

India's miserable tour of NZ continues with a dropped catch already.

Pretty poor standard of cricket they are playing these days, isn't it? In fact the word "hopeless" springs to mind.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Wed 05 Feb 2014, 11:03 pm

PLEASE GIVE MORE WICKETS TO ISHANT NEW ZEALAND TA
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Wed 05 Feb 2014, 11:11 pm

23-2 Fulton goes LBW to trundler Zaheer
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Wed 05 Feb 2014, 11:39 pm

Olly wrote:PLEASE GIVE MORE WICKETS TO ISHANT NEW ZEALAND TA

Ross Taylor knows  Cool 
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Post by Pal Joey on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 3:31 am

McCullum gets his ton.

NZ 225/3
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Post by Pal Joey on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 3:35 am

Now its a century for Kane Williamson.
The 200 run partnership is also up between him and Brendon McCullum.

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Post by Biltong on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 4:46 am

Great show byNZ, I qent to bed with 24/2, good recovery
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Post by KP_fan on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 8:05 am

from 30 for 3 to 329-4.......I didn't watch...but can infer that Dhoni went to sleep after first 15 overs of the match..

I concluded quite some time back.....dhoni is not cut out to captain test matches outside India
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Post by KP_fan on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 9:47 am

sad to see such denial by the Indian team on the state of affairs:
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Ishant picked up a wicket with his fifth delivery, Hamish Rutherford becoming his 150th victim in Test cricket, and followed it up with the huge scalp of Ross Taylor, also in his first spell. But having bowled well, he somewhat blotted his copybook by slipping into denial and insisting that India’s bowlers hadn’t gone off the boil after their excellent start.

India fed a generous diet of loose deliveries in the second and third sessions, allowing New Zealand to not just rally but also counter-punch in spectacular fashion through Kane Williamson, Brendon McCullum and Corey Anderson. India leaked 125 runs in 27 overs in the second session and conceded 150 in 39 in the third, as New Zealand finished the day clearly the stronger of the sides.

Ishant rebutted suggestions that the Indian intensity had dropped through the day, seeking refuge in the mistaken theory that they always had the rate of scoring under control. “I don’t think so,” he said. “You can see that we did not let their run-rate go high at any point. It was always under control. Even as the wicket got flat and the ball got old, we kept bowling in the right areas. What is in our hand is that when the wicket goes flat, you have to be patient and see how to create pressure.”

The denial spilled over to the overdose of short stuff India dealt in. “I don’t think so,” Ishant repeated when asked if India overdid the short ball. “We bowled in pretty good areas. They played good shots. We bowled enough bouncers and they kept on playing the pull over the top of the keeper and the slip cordon. You can’t control all this. We were still bowling in the right areas but you have to give credit to their batsmen. They played really well. The wicket got better as the day progressed. On these kinds of wickets, you need to be patient and keep bowling in the good areas. That is what we did.” Right areas? For the batsman or the bowler, one was tempted to ask.
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Post by kiakahaaotearoa on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 9:50 am

Hope those balls in the right areas continue on day two. I fear though some bad balls might trouble the NZ batsman and India will be encouraged to deteriorate their play...

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 10:30 am

Jesus are New Zealand this good or Indias bowling this bad? Suddenly the West Indies and England have an excuse.

I can only imagine KPFans continued absence is due to a stress induced illness bought on buy this and the news that Cook won something.

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Post by Duty281 on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 10:35 am

I was starting to wonder where KPF is as well!

Superb first day for New Zealand, carrying on well from the ODIs and the Tests at home last year to England.

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Post by skyeman on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 10:43 am

KW has been in Poopie hot form recently, five fifty+ and a ton in his last six knocks. NZ are a quickly improving team.

But Indian bowling away from home furious 

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Post by Pal Joey on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 10:46 am

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:Hope those balls in the right areas continue on day two. I fear though some bad balls might trouble the NZ batsman and India will be encouraged to deteriorate their play...

Yeah, we'll have to wait and see how India bat and NZ bowl.

The pitch started off with a definite green tinge... so at 30/3 it did look ominous for about 30-45 minutes. McCullum then started to break up the Indian bowling (playing some forceful shots) and the pitch from then on looked fine for batting. A few dropped catches were costly for NZ. It could easily have been 50/5 or something like that.

I'm slightly more confident that the Kiwi bowling will have more focus and they didn't seem to be intimidated by India at all in the recent ODI matches.
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Post by KP_fan on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 11:48 am

Duty281 wrote:I was starting to wonder where KPF is as well!

Superb first day for New Zealand, carrying on well from the ODIs and the Tests at home last year to England.

what does the brown writer's emblem under your name means  Shocked
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Post by Duty281 on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 11:50 am

KP_fan wrote:
Duty281 wrote:I was starting to wonder where KPF is as well!

Superb first day for New Zealand, carrying on well from the ODIs and the Tests at home last year to England.

what does the brown writer's emblem under your name means  Shocked

It means just what you think it means, KP_Fan.  laughing 

Have I alarmed you somewhat?

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 11:53 am

Brown moustache ?

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Post by skyeman on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 12:10 pm

SS KP fan, but i was expecting you to be having multiple orgasms over the KP story?

Maybe you agree this time with the ECB Laugh 

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Post by KP_fan on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 12:28 pm

skyeman wrote:SS KP fan, but i was expecting you to be having multiple orgasms over the KP story?

Maybe you agree this time with the ECB Laugh 

It is a hopeless situation now for England........ECB have to show they can win...and all will be forgotten.
Else the ghost of KP will haunt them forever.



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Post by KP_fan on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 12:32 pm

Duty281 wrote:
KP_fan wrote:
Duty281 wrote:I was starting to wonder where KPF is as well!

Superb first day for New Zealand, carrying on well from the ODIs and the Tests at home last year to England.

what does the brown writer's emblem under your name means  Shocked

It means just what you think it means, KP_Fan.  laughing 

Have I alarmed you somewhat?

Yeah...you have...I was expecting your to turn into a Patriotic poet.......not   a sports writer Rolling Eyes
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Post by msp83 on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 2:15 pm

KP_fan wrote:sad to see such denial by the Indian team on the state of affairs:
from wisden india

Ishant picked up a wicket with his fifth delivery, Hamish Rutherford becoming his 150th victim in Test cricket, and followed it up with the huge scalp of Ross Taylor, also in his first spell. But having bowled well, he somewhat blotted his copybook by slipping into denial and insisting that India’s bowlers hadn’t gone off the boil after their excellent start.

India fed a generous diet of loose deliveries in the second and third sessions, allowing New Zealand to not just rally but also counter-punch in spectacular fashion through Kane Williamson, Brendon McCullum and Corey Anderson. India leaked 125 runs in 27 overs in the second session and conceded 150 in 39 in the third, as New Zealand finished the day clearly the stronger of the sides.

Ishant rebutted suggestions that the Indian intensity had dropped through the day, seeking refuge in the mistaken theory that they always had the rate of scoring under control. “I don’t think so,” he said. “You can see that we did not let their run-rate go high at any point. It was always under control. Even as the wicket got flat and the ball got old, we kept bowling in the right areas. What is in our hand is that when the wicket goes flat, you have to be patient and see how to create pressure.”

The denial spilled over to the overdose of short stuff India dealt in. “I don’t think so,” Ishant repeated when asked if India overdid the short ball. “We bowled in pretty good areas. They played good shots. We bowled enough bouncers and they kept on playing the pull over the top of the keeper and the slip cordon. You can’t control all this. We were still bowling in the right areas but you have to give credit to their batsmen. They played really well. The wicket got better as the day progressed. On these kinds of wickets, you need to be patient and keep bowling in the good areas. That is what we did.” Right areas? For the batsman or the bowler, one was tempted to ask.
Who send the clown to meet the press?

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Post by msp83 on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 2:25 pm

Couldn't follow much of the game after the Fulton drop. Pretty poor day for India, and already its all down to the batsmen to make something out of this test. I am expecting New Zealand to go pass 500 without issues.
It was a timely knock from the New Zealand skipper and it isn't over yet. Kane Williamson, can he do anything wrong? The only wrong he was committing was that he wasn't converting his 50s into 100s, and now he has addressed that as well.
Zaheer took 2 wickets but didn't seem to have bowled well and he went for plenty as well. Jadeja, the bowler capable of holding up an end, also let his captain down by giving easy runs and going at over 4. Shami couldn't take wickets though he kept a decent economy rate. The clown took a couple of wickets, and that is more agonizing news for India.

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Post by msp83 on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 2:25 pm

And oh, the fielding, it was substandard!.

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Post by skyeman on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 3:02 pm

msp83 wrote:Couldn't follow much of the game after the Fulton drop. Pretty poor day for India, and already its all down to the batsmen to make something out of this test. I am expecting New Zealand to go pass 500 without issues.
It was a timely knock from the New Zealand skipper and it isn't over yet. Kane Williamson, can he do anything wrong? The only wrong he was committing was that he wasn't converting his 50s into 100s, and now he has addressed that as well.
Zaheer took 2 wickets but didn't seem to have bowled well and he went for plenty as well. Jadeja, the bowler capable of holding up an end, also let his captain down by giving easy runs and going at over 4. Shami couldn't take wickets though he kept a decent economy rate. The clown took a couple of wickets, and that is more agonizing news for India.


Ishant appears to be like Jade, one game in thirty they may do well. Wink 

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Post by msp83 on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 3:08 pm

skyeman wrote:
msp83 wrote:Couldn't follow much of the game after the Fulton drop. Pretty poor day for India, and already its all down to the batsmen to make something out of this test. I am expecting New Zealand to go pass 500 without issues.
It was a timely knock from the New Zealand skipper and it isn't over yet. Kane Williamson, can he do anything wrong? The only wrong he was committing was that he wasn't converting his 50s into 100s, and now he has addressed that as well.
Zaheer took 2 wickets but didn't seem to have bowled well and he went for plenty as well. Jadeja, the bowler capable of holding up an end, also let his captain down by giving easy runs and going at over 4. Shami couldn't take wickets though he kept a decent economy rate. The clown took a couple of wickets, and that is more agonizing news for India.


Ishant appears to be like Jade, one game in thirty they may do well. Wink 
Mercifully, England limit the Dernbach torcher on the supporters to only limited over games!.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 4:29 pm

England really need Ishant to produce the goods on this tour and maintain his place Wink


Any sign of any internal divisions in the camp? Has Kholi said " fluff what Fletcher thinks" yet? Any sign that Jadejas elbow will cause him to quit? Will Dhoni get in a huff because theres no jellybeans and be left out for a batsman to keep wicket in the next test?

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Post by msp83 on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 6:39 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:England really need Ishant to produce the goods on this tour and maintain his place Wink


Any sign of any internal divisions in the camp? Has Kholi said " fluff what Fletcher thinks" yet? Any sign that Jadejas elbow will cause him to quit? Will Dhoni get in a huff because theres no jellybeans and be left out for a batsman to keep wicket in the next test?
There are reports that Virat Kohli and Cheteshwar Pujara will be cut from India's plans for the future so that they could build a new team of philosophy lecturers.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 10:25 pm

If Anderson and McCullum make it through this first hour there could be absolute carnage here...
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Post by Gerry SA on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 10:38 pm

By God this is one terrible attack the Indians have got. 

Shami is very promising. As is Jadeja. 

Neither Khan or Sharma should be playing Test cricket. Khan's been a fine servant, but bowling 120-126kph ain't getting the job done. Sharma is pathetic. 150 poles at 38. It's laughable. 

They've got Yadav, a 147-155kph bowler, carrying drinks again. Pandey who was pretty good in the warm up match. 

India need to get some balls and pick 5 bowlers. 

Ashwin is more than good enough to bat at 6, IMO. 

Get rid of the wasteman Rohit Sharma.

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Post by Gerry SA on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 10:49 pm

Ishant keeping England happy here...

Anderson pinned lbw for 77. 

3-89 for Ishant. 

If he gets a michelle, will he get a haircut...???

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 10:49 pm

Looked high to me that LBW
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Post by Gerry SA on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 10:51 pm

Olly wrote:Looked high to me that LBW
Poor decision

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 10:53 pm

Gerry SA wrote:
Olly wrote:Looked high to me that LBW
Poor decision

Very poor, McCullum rightfully disgusted. God the ICC need to make DRS mandatory

Now getting this "it all evens up" guff from the commentators
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Post by Gerry SA on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 10:57 pm

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Olly wrote:Looked high to me that LBW
Poor decision

Very poor, McCullum rightfully disgusted. God the ICC need to make DRS mandatory

Now getting this "it all evens up" guff from the commentators
TBH Gavaskar didn't agree with Mark Richardson's 'it all evens up' nonsense. 

Shame for Anderson, he hasn't even extended himself yet, and was looking good for 100 and plenty.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 10:59 pm

Yeah Anderson was looking good, very promising player for NZ. Not got a bad side at all the Kiwis

Sharma really does bowl guff
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