Scotland v Argentina, 8 November

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Scotland v Argentina
8 November 2014
KO: 17:30 GMT
BT Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh

Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
Touch judges : George Clancy (IRFU) & Marius Mitrea (FIR)
TV : Eric Gauzins (FFR)

BBC Two/Various others

A. Teams:

Scotland

15 Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors); 24 caps
14 Sean Maitland (Glasgow Warriors); 13 caps
13 Mark Bennett (Glasgow Warriors); uncapped
12 Alex Dunbar (Glasgow Warriors); 8 caps
11 Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors); 10 caps
10 Finn Russell (Glasgow Warriors); 2 caps
9 Greig Laidlaw CAPTAIN (Gloucester); 31 caps

1 Alasdair Dickinson (Edinburgh Rugby); 36 caps
2 Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby); 77 caps
3 Euan Murray (Glasgow Warriors); 60 caps
4 Richie Gray (Castres); 39 caps
5 Jonny Gray (Glasgow Warriors); 5 caps
6 Rob Harley (Glasgow Warriors); 7 caps
7 Blair Cowan (London Irish); 3 caps
8 Adam Ashe (Glasgow Warriors); 1 cap

16 Scott Lawson (Gloucester); 45 caps
17 Gordon Reid (Glasgow Warriors); 3 caps
18 Geoff Cross (London Irish); 32 caps
19 Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors); 9 caps
20 Alasdair Strokosch (Perpignan); 40 caps
21 Henry Pyrgos (Glasgow Warriors); 12 caps
22 Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors); 15 caps
23 Sean Lamont (Glasgow Warriors); 88 caps

Argentina

15 Joaquin Tuculet
14 Juan Imhoff
13 Marcelo Bosch
12 Juan Martín Hernandez
11 Manuel Montero
10 Nicolas Sanchez
9 Martin Landajo

1 Marcos Ayerza
2 Agustin Creevy (capt)
3 Ramiro Herrera
4 Tomas Lavanini
5 Juan Cruz Guillemai
6 Rodrigo Baez
7 Javier Ortega Desio
8 Leonardo Senatore

16 Matias Cortese
17 Lucas Noguera Paz
18 Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro
19 Lucas Ponce
20 Facundo Isa
21 Tomas Cubelli
22 Santiago Gonzalez Iglesias
23 Horacio Agulla

B. Form - head to head (last 5 matches):

21 June 2014
Estadio Mario Alberto Kempes, Córdoba
19 – 21 to Scotland
2014 Summer Test

25 September 2011
Wellington Regional Stadium, Wellington
13 – 12 to Argentina
2011 Rugby World Cup

19 June 2010
Estadio José María Minella, Mar del Plata
9 – 13 to Scotland
2010 Scottish tour of Argentina

12 June 2010
Estadio José Fierro, Tucumán
16 – 24 to Scotland
2010 Scottish tour of Argentina

28 November 2009
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
6 – 9 to Argentina
2009 Autumn International

C. Form:

Scotland

28 June 2014
South Africa 55–6  Scotland

20 June 2014
Argentina 19–21  Scotland

14 June 2014
Canada 17–19 Scotland

7 June 2014
United States 6–24 Scotland

Argentina

Oct 4, 2014
Rugby Championship / Puma Trophy
Argentina 21 - 17 Australia

Sep 27, 2014
Rugby Championship
Argentina 13 - 34 New Zealand

Sep 13, 2014
Rugby Championship / Puma Trophy
Australia 32 - 25 Argentina

Sep 6, 2014
Rugby Championship
New Zealand 28 - 9 Argentina

Russell is playing well

Bennett is having a bit of a shocker. Hope he gets into his stride soon.

For all those who were wondering if Russell was ready for international rugby. I don't think that is a debate we need to be having any longer!

Mark of Nazareth needs to settle his pants down or Dunbar will be having that 13 shirt again when Matt Scott comes back

madmaccas wrote:Bennett is having a bit of a shocker. Hope he gets into his stride soon.

Probably a little bit strong. He would have had a try there if Gray had passed, was in the right place. Its his first international so cut he a little bit of slack and judge him at the end

BigGee wrote:

madmaccas wrote:Bennett is having a bit of a shocker. Hope he gets into his stride soon.

Probably a little bit strong. He would have had a try there if Gray had passed, was in the right place. Its his first international so cut he a little bit of slack and judge him at the end

Perhaps you're right, just keen for him to have confidence building moment and I think he'll kick on from there.

Don't kick for goal ffs

What a waste

Pointless kick from laidlaw

BigGee wrote:For all those who were wondering if Russell was ready for international rugby. I don't think that is a debate we need to be having any longer!

I was one of them but he is making the shirt his own in that first half

First half review:

great from the grays in all aspects of play.
Finn Russell looking good
Ross ford doing the basics right
Bennett needs some nerve settling runs
Laidlaw looking sharp
Ashe doing some good ball carrying

cakeordeath wrote:Don't kick for goal ffs

Again don't agree, always take the points. This is an international match, not Glasgow chasing a bonus point. just keep the score board ticking over and win the game. That's all that matters

I'm refusing to get carried away. Yes, refusing.

Not counting my chickens. Not at all.

I mean, this can't possibly be Scotland we're watching, right?

We're all a bit shocked here - not used to Scotland playing well!

Very happy with that first half

Penalty for coming in from the side was harsh for the Argentinians. Surely you can only be pinged for coming in from the side once a ruck has formed!? the penalised player looked to be the first arriving player.

Can't believe we've got a try from a tap and go, what must old Alan Solomons be making of that?!

A completely different level of ambition to anything we've seen in a long time. Sure not everything is coming off, but that will come with time and settled combinations. We REALLY need to back it up with a strong second half now

BigGee wrote:

cakeordeath wrote:Don't kick for goal ffs

Again don't agree, always take the points. This is an international match, not Glasgow chasing a bonus point. just keep the score board ticking over and win the game. That's all that matters

I don't agree :-) we are dominant our line outs are working well and we can run down the click to half time. We needed to kick for the corner pull in their forwards and spin it wide.

cakeordeath wrote:

BigGee wrote:

cakeordeath wrote:Don't kick for goal ffs

Again don't agree, always take the points. This is an international match, not Glasgow chasing a bonus point. just keep the score board ticking over and win the game. That's all that matters

I don't agree :-) we are dominant our line outs are working well and we can run down the click to half time. We needed to kick for the corner pull in their forwards and spin it wide.

Don't forget this is Scotland we're talking about, turning down opportunities for points is a dangerous game!

Laidlaw slipping into old habits there, I could've done some mild embroidery in the time it took him to get that box kick away

I think we are seeing why Laidlaw was picked as well!

Laidlaw is just a different player this year.

This is best I've seen Laidlaw play in years.

You have to say the selection looks absolutely spot on. All the slightly controversial picks, Cowan, Ashe, Russell and Laidlaw have played very well. Maybe VC does know a thing or two about rugby after all!

No. Kick to the corner

Always take the points!

Good call!

What

That yellow card is an utter disgrace.

I'm speechless.

Wayne, thats a wind up surely?

Barnes!!!!

Ridiculous yellow card but at least he got the try right!

Why??? Russell is playing well. Why mess him about by hauling him off???

Ross Ford - perfect lineout, strong in the loose, credit where credits due?

Dunbar is our best openside by a mile! Every ruck and maul he makes a nuisance of himself. I count at least 2 turnovers by him.

I smell Rab C

First scrum penalty try?!

Tommy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The arch poacher does his job. Well done Tommy!

Wayne Barnes though

Big Jim

He has only been on the pitch 2 mins!

Big jim deciding he doesn't want to run about tonight

Hey, listen. If Big Jim doesn't want to run, then Big Jim isn't running.

Bet Cotter is wishing they hadn't corrected the typo and it was Swinson on the bench after all.

The game was won but that was just a stupid thing to do

That was a bit silly, but at the end of the day the game was won by half time. Still things to work on though

Great job Weir. Typical brain fart.

Why do I feel like we lost. What the Frak was that at the end.

Bonkers second 40.

Weir clearly mistaking himself for Finn Russell there. Or a Fijian of some sort.

So. What have we learned?

Finn Russell looks good for the future
Ross ford was consistent at doing the basics
Mark Bennett was like a rabbit in the headlights. Schitz would be so dissapointed.
Cotter doesn't need to empty the bench. Laidlaw and Russell were doing fine. Russell in particular. Meatball was just mince from the moment he came on
Wayne Barnes, even with video replay, can't ref for toffee.

well done scotland - according to the bbc sport website you just beat new zealand 41-31!

I'm feeling more conflicted than a diabetic in a sweetie shop.

I mean, Christ on a bendy bus, we were simply fantastic! But... 41-17 looks an awful lot better than 41-31.