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Post by JuliusHMarx Fri 03 Jul 2015, 8:04 pm

First topic message reminder :

Order of play

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/22713811

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Post by LuvSports! Sat 04 Jul 2015, 6:26 pm

Posp wins Sad . End of Ward's run. Well played both.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sat 04 Jul 2015, 6:26 pm

Pospisil wins in five sets. Ward just fell away and couldn't find that extra gear when he needed it. A good week for him though.
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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sat 04 Jul 2015, 6:26 pm

Can't argue with that. Popsicle the better player in the 5th.

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Post by Born Slippy Sat 04 Jul 2015, 6:45 pm

Murray looking phenomenal so far.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sat 04 Jul 2015, 6:52 pm

I don't know about phenomenal but I would say it is a step up in level from his first two matches here.
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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sat 04 Jul 2015, 7:06 pm

Well I'm sure we can all agree that his challenges are phenomenally bad.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sat 04 Jul 2015, 7:14 pm

Murray now about to serve for the second set leading 6-2 5-2.
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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sat 04 Jul 2015, 7:14 pm

There goes the 2nd set. Don't think Seppi is playing well enough for us to be able to properly assess Andy's level.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sat 04 Jul 2015, 7:23 pm

Aut0Gr4ph wrote:There goes the 2nd set. Don't think Seppi is playing well enough for us to be able to properly assess Andy's level.

Maybe not but at least Andy is being more pro-active today rather than the more reactive one on show in the first two rounds.
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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sat 04 Jul 2015, 7:39 pm

I think Andy will always look more pro-active playing Seppi than the likes of Kuznetsov. Very different game styles indeed. I thought he looked good against Haase, although Haase was pretty abject for the most part.

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sat 04 Jul 2015, 7:42 pm

Oh dear, Andy's game has really gone walkabout here. Medical timeout may have disrupted his rhythm, but that's no excuse.

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sat 04 Jul 2015, 7:47 pm

Shocking! Needs to get curmudgeonly here and claw this set back.

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Sat 04 Jul 2015, 7:48 pm

Showing that he isn't really the favourite. Seppi playing poor still will take a convincing enough set off him.
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Post by temporary21 Sat 04 Jul 2015, 7:49 pm

Looks like he may have hurt his shoulder. It rattled him.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sat 04 Jul 2015, 7:50 pm

Josiah Maiestas wrote:Showing that he isn't really the favourite. Seppi playing poor still will take a convincing enough set off him.

On that grounds then neither is Federer. Lost a set today against a player ranked far lower than Roger but never heard you saying the same then. Oh and how did Seppi get on in Aussie Open against Roger again? Wink
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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sat 04 Jul 2015, 7:52 pm

Only explanation here is that Becker's fat beetroot face is catching the sun and putting Andy off.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 04 Jul 2015, 7:54 pm

Murray looking as though he's in considerable discomfort.

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Sat 04 Jul 2015, 7:59 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:
Josiah Maiestas wrote:Showing that he isn't really the favourite. Seppi playing poor still will take a convincing enough set off him.

On that grounds then neither is Federer. Lost a set today against a player ranked far lower than Roger but never heard you saying the same then. Oh and how did Seppi get on in Aussie Open against Roger again? Wink
Was it a convincing thrashing of a set, like Murray has just taken? TB sets against big servers aren't as bad as that 3rd set.
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Post by bogbrush Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:00 pm

What's Murrays problem here?
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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:00 pm

Did Andy have an argument with Kim during that timeout?

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Post by temporary21 Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:01 pm

1-4 last set, didnt anyone of you see it? He looked like he hurt his shoulder badly

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:02 pm

On the bright side, Seppi hasn't done anything to change the pattern of play. It's purely down to Andy's dip in form. As long as he can restore his level, he should be fine.

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Post by bogbrush Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:04 pm

temporary21 wrote:1-4 last set, didnt anyone of you see it? He looked like he hurt his shoulder badly
I've been out.

What happened?
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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:04 pm

Didn't see it. Don't think the comms did either. If this goes to 5, will they close the roof first?

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Post by temporary21 Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:08 pm

bogbrush wrote:
temporary21 wrote:1-4 last set, didnt anyone of you see it? He looked like he hurt his shoulder badly
I've been out.

What happened?
He went a break down, then at 1-4 he played a horrible game, all power on his serve and fh just went and he rubbed his shoulder in real pain. He just had an mto for it

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Post by temporary21 Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:09 pm

Phew, thank Seppi for that. The key now is how that serve is gonna hold up

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Post by bogbrush Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:09 pm

So there wasn't an accident?

I'd discount it. He always rubs things when he falls behind.

Nothing wrong with that serve.


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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:09 pm

bogbrush wrote:
temporary21 wrote:1-4 last set, didnt anyone of you see it? He looked like he hurt his shoulder badly
I've been out.

What happened?
Well I saw Becker looking shifty with a blowpipe, so I reckon poisoned dart to the shoulder.

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:10 pm

Turning point please!

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Post by temporary21 Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:10 pm

No accident but lets hope it is just overreacting, dont wanna lose a big player like that. The MTO was a bit concerning

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:12 pm

bogbrush wrote:So there wasn't an accident?

I'd discount it. He always rubs things when he falls behind.

Nothing wrong with that serve.
That's true, although he's not known for spurious use of the trainer.

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Post by temporary21 Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:13 pm

Its better now i seems, maybe it twinged, and it panicked him. Hes had history of pains

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:19 pm

Given the the extreme drop away, I expect there was some physical issue, even if Andy was overreacting to it. He is a bit of a drama queen after all. Whatever the cause, it has, at least, turned a rather run of the mill match into something of a spectacle.

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:24 pm

Shocking line call! Send her to the Tower!

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Post by biugo Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:24 pm

Ot it's the new percentage play: take a MTO and win the set 6-1 Wink

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Post by bogbrush Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:26 pm

temporary21 wrote:Its better now i seems, maybe it twinged, and it panicked him. Hes had history of pains
Give me a break!
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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:26 pm

A good one for lovers of symmetry. Seppi calls the trainer and wins six in a row, then Murray follows suit.

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Post by LuvSports! Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:27 pm

Both tactical imo,

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Post by temporary21 Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:27 pm

The MTO has been the secret coach behind the greats for centuries, always behind the scenes!

In all seriousness, the last set would suggest its just a pang, which can be given painkillers at worst. Murray and Federer staying in their half of the draw is important to keeping this half up, a sf between those two is by far the most promising match. I hope they both make it healthy and well rested

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Post by temporary21 Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:30 pm

The second serve the key to his next match, appropriately an appointment with the doctor, too many second serves and Ivo is right in

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Post by biugo Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:31 pm

temporary21 wrote:The MTO has been the secret coach behind the greats for centuries, always behind the scenes!

In all seriousness, the last set would suggest its just a pang, which can be given painkillers at worst. Murray and Federer staying in their half of the draw is important to keeping this half up, a sf between those two is by far the most promising match. I hope they both make it healthy and well rested
Second to a Djokoic-Federer Final Wink
At least, things remain interesting in this half of the draw. I'd hope for a Wawrinka-Djokoivc in the top half, even though Wawrinka is much less of a threat on grass, he would have the mental advantage over Novak... (But I'm afraid Goffin is in too good a form)

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Post by temporary21 Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:33 pm

The most promising in this half for sure. Yeah the dream for me is Stan and Novak, which I think would be the best of the 2 semis. and Muzz and Fed. A Novak/either one final would be great, either one would be huge

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Post by biugo Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:44 pm

Just realized Andy's last 16 would be arguably much harder to handle than his QF: Karlovic, then Troicki in all likeliness.

Wawrinka has the worst draw from now on: Goffin, then Gasquet or Kyrgios, all in form, then of course Djoko.

Then Fed should cruise through Bautista Agut, and his QF could be tricky although it should be on his hands: Berdych or Simon/Monfils

Third in line is Andy with ever tricky Dr Ivo. But isn't Andy well able to block his serves as Federer would do? Then Troicki, most likely, would be a good training for the SF

For Djoko, Anderson can be tough on serve, but has he got any weapon for Novak? Cilic is a question mark really - at least he knows he can win big games, but he's still high from USO win.

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Post by temporary21 Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:48 pm

I think Novaks asafe for the semi, Anderson doesnt have enough once the serve goes out, and Cilic, though he has the game, has had 2 very long 5 set matches thus far, would suggest his games not there, and that hell be too out of gas.

Feds QF is probably the hardest now. Berdych is either really nasty or as useless as a headless chicken, as shown by his match today, nearly went 5 until he bucked his ideas up. Id be ever so slightly worried, given he conspired to drop a set to Groth.

If his shoulders fine Murray should be ok. Worried about his second serve for the doctor though

Stan is playing more than well enough to dispatch any of those 3, Kygios is game, but Stans the RG champ

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Post by bogbrush Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:54 pm

Kyrgios is going to do something big at some point, it may as well be now.

He has the power to knock anyone off court, it's whether he has his A game there.
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Post by temporary21 Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:54 pm

Oh wow, enormous flying forehand from Monfils, wouldnt know hes 2 sets to one down. Quite something

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:57 pm

That game tonight though just shows why Andy has won two slams and not more. He suffers dips too much - tonight he played through it and recovered to win but against the best players you cannot do that. Still he is through in four and Karlovic is up next for him. I'd expect Andy to win that match.
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Post by temporary21 Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:59 pm

Id let this one slide, an MTO and visible pain of some kind suggested it wasnt just loss of concentration. His base level is good enough at least.

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Post by temporary21 Sat 04 Jul 2015, 9:00 pm

btw watch Simon Monfils, its getting really good

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Post by biugo Sat 04 Jul 2015, 9:09 pm

Just noting Djoko and Anderson are the only ones having to face their top seed at every match so far (it will stop for QF of course with Nishi out)

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