Scarlets v Ulster 12th September 2015 15:00 Parc y Scarlets

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Scarlets have won their last five Guinness PRO12 fixtures since Edinburgh won at Parc y Scarlets on 28th March.

This also represents their only home defeat in the tournament since Boxing Day 2013.

Ulster ended a three game winless streak in the Guinness PRO12 with their 28-6 victory over the Ospreys in Belfast on Friday. The Ulstermen have won three of their last six away games in the tournament.

Scarlets have won just one of their last eight encounters with Ulster in the PRO12: 17-9 in Llanelli on 2 November 2013. Overall the Ulstermen have a won 2, drawn 2, lost 5 record in all competitions at Parc y Scarlets.

At Parc y Scarlets, 3pm.

Referee: Andrew Brace (IRFU, 2nd competition game)
Assistant Referees: Neil Hennessy, Justin Williams (both WRU)
Citing Commissioner: Aurwel Morgan (WRU)
TMO: J Mason (WRU)

Live on Sky Sports
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This no-arms low tackle thing seems to be a bugbear. 95% of games it happens and nobody cares. I think this is harsh refereeing on the Scarlets.

Finally an offside penalty, 10th time lucky.

I'm afraid the fans in the stadium are wrong it was not the ref cheating but a 2nd no arm tackle. Still luckily for Scarlets we have no proper frontline kicker

Some Scarlets fans showing their classy side with the ref again; bad decision, harsh refereeing, calling a referee a cheat- still not ok.

Notch wrote:This no-arms low tackle thing seems to be a bugbear. 95% of games it happens and nobody cares. I think this is harsh refereeing on the Scarlets.

Dan Lydiate is going to be feeling nervous if these tackles are being so heavily scrutinised...

It's clearer why that was penalised than the first one, Jake Ball was binned for a similar offence against Ulster last season.

Rory_Gallagher wrote:

Notch wrote:This no-arms low tackle thing seems to be a bugbear. 95% of games it happens and nobody cares. I think this is harsh refereeing on the Scarlets.

Dan Lydiate is going to be feeling nervous if these tackles are being so heavily scrutinised...

That depends if he uses his arms or not lol

Notch wrote:Some Scarlets fans showing their classy side with the ref again; bad decision, harsh refereeing, calling a referee a cheat- still not ok.

You've opened Pandora's box, I expect a 20 page thread now.

Ulster don't seem to be at the races. Too many players look a little off colour.

Believe me Rory, I've seen plenty of Ulster and Irish fans showing disrespect to the referee over the years. If anyone tries to tell you its one set of fans thats bad and one that isn't you should call them out on it. This is classless behaviour regardless of whose fans it is, so it's not a dig at Scarlets and it's not an attempt to tar those who aren't involved either- If people want to twist it into something it isn't, I won't engage. As rugby fans we should police on our side even more than we denounce others!

Interestingly though it is the Welsh TMO who is making the decisions for the ref...i.e he gives the decision to the Ref. So not sure what the issue is. Player breaks the rules its a penalty...

Ulster are just off the boil there is no leadership or direction on the field and the breakdown play is poor. We are really missing a controlling 9 or 10 out there

profitius wrote:Ulster don't seem to be at the races. Too many players look a little off colour.

I think we are lucky to have Stuart McCloskey on the field, we wouldn't look half as dangerous otherwise.

neilthom7 wrote:Ulster are just off the boil there is no leadership or direction on the field and the breakdown play is poor. We are really missing a controlling 9 or 10 out there

Yeah Marshall was good last week and now we see what happens when he isn't and we don't have a specialist 10.

Notch wrote:

neilthom7 wrote:Ulster are just off the boil there is no leadership or direction on the field and the breakdown play is poor. We are really missing a controlling 9 or 10 out there

Yeah Marshall was good last week and now we see what happens when he isn't and we don't have a specialist 10.

Yeah when hes off and no 10 there is no direction the kicks are awful like

PETER BROWN
What are you doing right in front of the ref

There's just two mindless penalties in a row from Browne. Which just makes it very, very easy.

What on earth was that? Sheer stupidity!

This is just shocking from Ulster, giving Scarlets plenty of help here and they don't need it

3 needless mistakes turn a lineout in Scarlets territory into a try. Just woeful

Just thinking we need cool heads and then here comes Nick Williams...

Well he's not exactly a UN peacekeeper Big Nick lol We have been completely stupid so far, Nick could be considered a little lucky there

It''s simply a dreadful spectacle of rugby due to Ulster''s input and some pedantic schoolboy refereeing. The Scarlets are the only group of people doing their job and unless there''s a turnaround are very much well worth the win. This is more like Doak''s Ulster unfortunately.

Yeyy a try well thats about time but if we pull something out here then we really would be stealing a win. No time off there during the TMO by the way

neilthom7 wrote:Yeyy a try well thats about time but if we pull something out here then we really would be stealing a win.  No time off there during the TMO by the way

Interestingly there was no time off when Scarlets were bringing on a prop after the card in the first half, even though the referee called for it.

Yeah I didn't see that JMD but that is interesting wonder what is going on with that?

It wouldn't be the first time a broadcaster is out of sync with the game clock

We just bombed a certain try. You have to laugh.

There's absolutely no benefit to carrying the ball in one hand there, poor fundamentals.

Feck sake McCloskey. All you had to do was pick and go!

Too get a bonus point out of this would be a let off. We're still in with a chance of winning, bizarre.

Has Luke Marshall held on to a single ball today? I count 4 unforced fumbles from him.

The Scarlets look to be taking our title for poor discipline..

I've been surprised that the Scarlets have been so poor since their try- we've obviously been abysmal- game has petered out unfortunately.

No advantage from the lineout there? This has to be one of the worst matches in recent memory.

We give away a penalty under the posts to lose the LBP. Fittingly caps off a terrible performance.

Well you have to say the better team won, although there were times in that second half where it seemed to be about who could press the self-destruct button faster. Damage was done in a very one-sided first half and when the Scarlets started to lose their discipline and make poor decisions, we didn't reduce our error count to capitalise on it and make up the lost ground.

Can't believe we even got that many points today. Well played Scarlets we were shocking

Well played, scarlets. Fully deserved, and no complaints.

Great start to the season for you.

Ulster were pathetic. Lack of will to win and error count was unacceptable.

Scarlets really need to improve on discipline, almost threw that away by giving away penalties. Looks like we're going for a record collection of yellow cards lately. We can complain about it as much as we want but if the players don't stick to the laws and reduce penalty counts we won't be getting the results like we have the last two games. We're 2 from 2 but it could easily be 0 from 2.
Over the moon with the result and the first half performance by and large but Ulster were poor today, loads of errors but were still in it at the end due to our indiscipline. Doubt we'll get let off again.

The usual suspects hurt Ulster today, lack of discipline, execution and leadership

Was surprised at Scholes try, he showed strength to hold of the tacklers and get the ball down and was unlucky when he knocked on thought it should have been a knock on advantage to Ulster

That's simply inexcusable from Ulster, it was a defeat entirely of their own making. Headless, brainless, rudderless and unfortunately the Doak bit comes without a less. Last week may well have been the blip of decency amidst Doaky mediocracy.

You can have all the money in the world.

But it doesn't buy you passion and commitment. Excellent stuff. Beer please.

Well Terk'd by the sound of it. Marvelous. 3 cards to zero too.

Notch wrote:Some Scarlets fans showing their classy side with the ref again; bad decision, harsh refereeing, calling a referee a cheat- still not ok.

Yeah we have no class at all, but your the expert on class aint you.

Rory_Gallagher wrote:The Scarlets look to be taking our title for poor discipline..

Its got to be a record 6 yellows in only two games. Very poor. And once you start getting a rep it can be hard to shake off. Shocking to think few years back we win the fair play league.

Cardiff Dave wrote:Well Terk'd by the sound of it. Marvelous. 3 cards to zero too.

Three is the magic number

ScarletSpiderman wrote:

Rory_Gallagher wrote:The Scarlets look to be taking our title for poor discipline..

Its got to be a record 6 yellows in only two games.  Very poor.  And once you start getting a rep it can be hard to shake off. Shocking to think few years back we win the fair play league.

Dirty Terks.
Well done with the win though and 6 yellows equates to an hour's worth of.....Terking?

ScarletSpiderman wrote:

Notch wrote:Some Scarlets fans showing their classy side with the ref again; bad decision, harsh refereeing, calling a referee a cheat- still not ok.

Yeah we have no class at all, but your the expert on class aint you.

Kumquat

You obviously didn't read my subsequent comment in your rush to predictable mock outrage