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No team news yet, nor any news on who is officiating, so here is the place to be just to talk about this weekends semi finals. I will update when needed.

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Post by tigertattie on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:30 pm

Sexton started that.
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Post by Rory_Gallagher on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:31 pm

Was there a strike to the face there?

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Post by Pot Hale on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:32 pm

There's a bit of booing going on here.
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Post by RDW_Scotland on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:32 pm

That could be a red

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Post by The Great Aukster on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:33 pm

Have the officials no concept of a forward pass? Every try has had one!


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Post by Rory_Gallagher on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:33 pm

This would be a really poor end to a great game.

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Post by mikey_dragon on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:33 pm

Bit of a freak accident this one but wouldn't complain about a red.

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:33 pm

Red it is.

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Post by Pot Hale on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:34 pm

Probably a penalty to Scarlets the way this ref is going.
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Post by profitius on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:34 pm

Looks like a yellow. Cracking match so far!
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Post by Rory_Gallagher on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:34 pm

Awk just give a yellow - it has been a great game.

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Post by tigertattie on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:35 pm

Hmmmm. Suppose of you lift the legs you run the risk of getting the red
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Post by RDW_Scotland on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:35 pm

Correct decision - there was no reason to lift his legs up

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Post by Pot Hale on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:35 pm

Well there's a surprise.
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Post by Fuzzy Dunlop on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:36 pm

Ah Love sacks, a fantastic game ruined now. Ref had no choice though.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:36 pm

In slow motion it did look pretty awful. Right on his head.

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Post by Pot Hale on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:36 pm

Scarlets love this ref.
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Post by mikey_dragon on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:37 pm

Pot Hale wrote:Probably a penalty to Scarlets the way this ref is going.

See the penalty your homer gave against Davies ; you're as one-eyed as the blinkered crowd.

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:37 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:Bit of a freak accident this one but wouldn't complain about a red.

Wouldn't call it a freak accident - there was no reason for him to lift the legs up (it's not like it was momentum) and as soon as you do you run the risk of a red.

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Post by The Great Aukster on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:37 pm

Poor play by Lee, his intervention got Evans (rightly) sent off.

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:38 pm

Yeah the only question there really is should it have been a red to Evans or Lee who I think probably caused it overall.

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Post by Pot Hale on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:39 pm

Scarlets should keep the lead. They've taken every opportunity and Leinster have been Shiite with Sexton leading the Poopie.
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Post by mikey_dragon on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:40 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Bit of a freak accident this one but wouldn't complain about a red.

Wouldn't call it a freak accident - there was no reason for him to lift the legs up (it's not like it was momentum) and as soon as you do you run the risk of a red.

Well that's incorrect as Ringerose trying to twist out of the tackle game him momentum, and it looks like he was double lifted too. Just earlier on Sexton struck Davies who was then penalised for self defence.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:41 pm

That will depend on whether Leinster decide to stop dropping the ball or shooting out of the defensive line and missing tackles. It is certainly still possible for the Scarlets to win as Leinster aren't playing as if this is knockout rugby.

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Post by Pot Hale on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:41 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:
Pot Hale wrote:Probably a penalty to Scarlets the way this ref is going.

See the penalty your homer gave against Davies  ; you're as one-eyed as the blinkered crowd.

I'm in the blinkered crowd. Sat next to a small group of blinkered Scarlets fans.

That's sport for ya.
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Post by The Great Aukster on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:42 pm

Patchell is having a good game, why isn't he in the frame for Wales?

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Post by TightHEAD on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:43 pm

Sextons temperament is a weak point for the Lions if he is selected as the No10, penalty should have been against him.
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Post by Rory_Gallagher on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:43 pm

The Great Aukster wrote:Patchell is having a good game, why isn't he in the frame for Wales?

His form is too patchy.

...I'll see myself out. But it is true.

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Post by Pot Hale on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:45 pm

TightHEAD wrote:Sextons temperament is a weak point for the Lions if he is selected as the No10, penalty should have been against him.

Nonsense. The gutty attacked him.
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Post by RDW_Scotland on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:45 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Bit of a freak accident this one but wouldn't complain about a red.

Wouldn't call it a freak accident - there was no reason for him to lift the legs up (it's not like it was momentum) and as soon as you do you run the risk of a red.

Well that's incorrect as Ringerose trying to twist out of the tackle game him momentum, and it looks like he was double lifted too. Just earlier on Sexton struck Davies who was then penalised for self defence.

The view from behind was best - there was an initial hit then a deliberate leg lift after. He wouldn't have landed on his head if there wasn't the leg lift.

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Post by marty2086 on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:48 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Bit of a freak accident this one but wouldn't complain about a red.

Wouldn't call it a freak accident - there was no reason for him to lift the legs up (it's not like it was momentum) and as soon as you do you run the risk of a red.

Well that's incorrect as Ringerose trying to twist out of the tackle game him momentum, and it looks like he was double lifted too. Just earlier on Sexton struck Davies who was then penalised for self defence.

Oh wise up would you, Davies was the one trying to front up to Sexton and looked suspiciously like Davies throwing a few shots at Sexton on the ground

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Post by Pot Hale on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:49 pm

marty2086 wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Bit of a freak accident this one but wouldn't complain about a red.

Wouldn't call it a freak accident - there was no reason for him to lift the legs up (it's not like it was momentum) and as soon as you do you run the risk of a red.

Well that's incorrect as Ringerose trying to twist out of the tackle game him momentum, and it looks like he was double lifted too. Just earlier on Sexton struck Davies who was then penalised for self defence.

Oh wise up would you, Davies was the one trying to front up to Sexton and looked suspiciously like Davies throwing a few shots at Sexton on the ground

No suspiciously. He was.
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Post by marty2086 on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:51 pm

TightHEAD wrote:Sextons temperament is a weak point for the Lions if he is selected as the No10, penalty should have been against him.

I must have overlooked that law that says you can't take a quick lineout

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Post by Rory_Gallagher on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:51 pm

I'm almost sure Davies struck Sexton in the face while he was on the ground. Only saw it on one angle which was shown once. Could be wrong though.

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Post by Pot Hale on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:53 pm

Anyways. Moving on.

Let's see what the second half brings.
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Post by Rory_Gallagher on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:54 pm

That is really rubbish from Sexton and Leinster.

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Post by marty2086 on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:55 pm

Thought the same Rory, thought he used his his forearm but Sexton never seemed to complain so made me doubt it

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Post by The Great Aukster on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:55 pm

Yes looked like a possible citing

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Post by mikey_dragon on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:56 pm

Pot Hale wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:
Pot Hale wrote:Probably a penalty to Scarlets the way this ref is going.

See the penalty your homer gave against Davies  ; you're as one-eyed as the blinkered crowd.

I'm in the blinkered crowd. Sat next to a small group of blinkered Scarlets fans.

That's sport for ya.  

Oh I couldn't agree with you more my friend. Turks are the most blinkered in Wales!

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Post by The Great Aukster on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:57 pm

Poor by jgp - they need to be making the Scarlets run with a man down

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Post by mikey_dragon on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:58 pm

Pot Hale wrote:
marty2086 wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Bit of a freak accident this one but wouldn't complain about a red.

Wouldn't call it a freak accident - there was no reason for him to lift the legs up (it's not like it was momentum) and as soon as you do you run the risk of a red.

Well that's incorrect as Ringerose trying to twist out of the tackle game him momentum, and it looks like he was double lifted too. Just earlier on Sexton struck Davies who was then penalised for self defence.

Oh wise up would you, Davies was the one trying to front up to Sexton and looked suspiciously like Davies throwing a few shots at Sexton on the ground

No suspiciously.  He was.

Sexton struck him to the face first. The irish high horse brigade are making a comeback now are they? You guys are funny.

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Post by mikey_dragon on Fri 19 May 2017, 8:59 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Bit of a freak accident this one but wouldn't complain about a red.

Wouldn't call it a freak accident - there was no reason for him to lift the legs up (it's not like it was momentum) and as soon as you do you run the risk of a red.

Well that's incorrect as Ringerose trying to twist out of the tackle game him momentum, and it looks like he was double lifted too. Just earlier on Sexton struck Davies who was then penalised for self defence.

The view from behind was best - there was an initial hit then a deliberate leg lift after. He wouldn't have landed on his head if there wasn't the leg lift.

I said it was a double leg lift so I didn't disagree with that. I thought there was definitely momentum and it was a really high tempo state of play which is why I thought it was accidental.

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Fri 19 May 2017, 9:01 pm

Furlong is a beast - desperately need him to stay fit for the Lions.

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Post by mikey_dragon on Fri 19 May 2017, 9:01 pm

Oops McNicholl looks hurt.

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Post by The Great Aukster on Fri 19 May 2017, 9:02 pm

Is Sexton saving himself? RP looks the better player

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Fri 19 May 2017, 9:02 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Bit of a freak accident this one but wouldn't complain about a red.

Wouldn't call it a freak accident - there was no reason for him to lift the legs up (it's not like it was momentum) and as soon as you do you run the risk of a red.

Well that's incorrect as Ringerose trying to twist out of the tackle game him momentum, and it looks like he was double lifted too. Just earlier on Sexton struck Davies who was then penalised for self defence.

The view from behind was best - there was an initial hit then a deliberate leg lift after. He wouldn't have landed on his head if there wasn't the leg lift.

I said it was a double leg lift so I didn't disagree with that. I thought there was definitely momentum and it was a really high tempo state of play which is why I thought it was accidental.

I certainly don't think it was malicious I just can't see how it can be classed as a freak accident when there was a deliberate lift

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Post by Rory_Gallagher on Fri 19 May 2017, 9:03 pm

There was no release in the ruck there. Mitrea has no clue at the breakdown.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher on Fri 19 May 2017, 9:04 pm

The Leinster pack must be pretty miserable with the performance of the back line.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher on Fri 19 May 2017, 9:05 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Bit of a freak accident this one but wouldn't complain about a red.

Wouldn't call it a freak accident - there was no reason for him to lift the legs up (it's not like it was momentum) and as soon as you do you run the risk of a red.

Well that's incorrect as Ringerose trying to twist out of the tackle game him momentum, and it looks like he was double lifted too. Just earlier on Sexton struck Davies who was then penalised for self defence.

The view from behind was best - there was an initial hit then a deliberate leg lift after. He wouldn't have landed on his head if there wasn't the leg lift.

I said it was a double leg lift so I didn't disagree with that. I thought there was definitely momentum and it was a really high tempo state of play which is why I thought it was accidental.

I certainly don't think it was malicious I just can't see how it can be classed as a freak accident when there was a deliberate lift

He's Welsh, be gentle.

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Post by The Great Aukster on Fri 19 May 2017, 9:07 pm

Furlong not looking too good with McGrath off the pitch.

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