The Dew Drop Inn Virtual Rugby Pub

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Cari wrote:Notch - I wouldn't begrudge Murray a win at Bimbledon. It might put a smile on his fizzog anyway.

Id love to see it happen. Then, maybe Britain will be alive with working-class and not just nob - tennis players. That is the source of the problem with it's failure in producing tennis Champions - right there. Always has been.

Like rugby in Ireland - up to a while ago.

I mean now, we have culchies and noordies playing with Leinster. Times have changed. For the better. Its more acceptable now. All good.

I don't think even a Murray win would change tennis at grass roots level Gibbo, it's too entrenched amongst the middle and upper class now.

The wife is having physio on a problem with her neck and they are based at the local tennis club. I see the people there, they look at people they don't know (those using the physio service) as beneath them.

It cost £500 to hire 1 tennis court for 2 hours for a kids party. They get a bit of grub, which probably cost about a £1 a head to prepare and one of the coaches hits a few balls across a net to them for 30 minutes. Other than that they get a stereo and run round for a bit.

That is not a place you are going to find normal working class people, regardless of whether Murray wins Wimbledon or not.

evening folks just a quick visit for me, really enjoying the tennis this evening. I reckon Murray is so misunderstood and he always gets a slating by the press, does my head in.

Really hope he goes far in Wimbledon but he's got such a tough ask against Nadal, Federer and Djoko - they're all on fire at the moment!

Sad to hear the news about Falk, I always liked watching Columbo whenever it was on. Favourite thing I ever saw him in though was The Princess Bride. He may not have been in it much, but he was still wonderful

The Princess Bride is a great film...

"My name is Inigo Montoya, you kill my father, prepare to die"

Love Andre the Giant in it as well.


Why do you say Murray is misunderstood dreamer?

Pete - that's the problem with tennis. It's not open to everyone because eventually you'd have to join some club or other which is just too expensive for some.

I like Mumford & Sons, but i don't know if they're appropriate for a huge gig like this - on the main stage I mean. Too many long pauses in between songs whilst they change instruments and tune them a bit. They don't really say much, so when they get the crowd going with one song, they sort of kill the excitement a bit with the pause in between songs. Not that it seems to bother the crowd.

Pete, Where's the handbag smiley when you want it!!

erm, I just don't think people get him, or well the press don't anyway. They wan't him to be this sort of Federer guy who's great in front of the camera when it's clear he just likes to keep to himself. Not everyone's going to be great at PR. Then you get the whole he's got a bad attitude etc stuff that they churn out from time to time. Just let the poor guy get on with his tennis! Honestly it drives me barmy.

I don't really read the press about him dreamer so can't comment too much on what they say about him. He just doesn't excite me as a sportsman I guess.

Howya Rava? Maybe we can get Hobo to give us a handbag smiley, that would be cool, pink I reckon would be best!

LDCPete wrote:I don't think even a Murray win would change tennis at grass roots level Gibbo, it's too entrenched amongst the middle and upper class now.

The wife is having physio on a problem with her neck and they are based at the local tennis club. I see the people there, they look at people they don't know (those using the physio service) as beneath them.

It cost £500 to hire 1 tennis court for 2 hours for a kids party. They get a bit of grub, which probably cost about a £1 a head to prepare and one of the coaches hits a few balls across a net to them for 30 minutes. Other than that they get a stereo and run round for a bit.

That is not a place you are going to find normal working class people, regardless of whether Murray wins Wimbledon or not.

Pete mate,
This is what we are up against. Generally. But I'd love to see the day(you probably already have), when you sort out a serious situation for the same self-centered - nobs. Then see the change. Feel the free massages and respect - flow.


But yeah. You know. The Quo will never change Status. The rules have been laid down for Millenia already. Done deal.

Are you Columbo in diguise?

Murray serving for the match here.

I think Murray is a classic example of someone who's a good athlete, just not very good with PR. There's a few sports people like that.

Jebus, just seen a guy in the crowd, he's got another guy sat on his shoulders, who has a girl sat on his shoulders too! He must be built like a brick wossname to have two people on his shoulders!

Exactly. He's a tennis player, not a talk show host.

argh he got broken, and that pissing first serve was in that the umpire called out! bah! Murray why do this to me?!

If Murray was English the press would like him better. He'll never live down the "anyone but england" comment but he was just being honest. Thats what I like about the guy, there's no spin or BS he just wants to win and doesn't care about his popularity.

It's unfortunate for him that he's up against Nadal and Federer, two of the best ever.

Hi Cari, Dreamer, Gibson, Pete and anyone else.

Pete definately pink mate. Hope you and your lovely family are well.

Cari, is it still dry in your "Glastonbury"

roddersm wrote:If Murray was English the press would like him better.

Let's not go there....pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!

Wooooooooooooooooooooo!
Go Dreamer. Go Dreamer! Go Dreamer! <aphhokloadofhandbags>

Cari wrote:I think Murray is a classic example of someone who's a good athlete, just not very good with PR. There's a few sports people like that.

Jebus, just seen a guy in the crowd, he's got another guy sat on his shoulders, who has a girl sat on his shoulders too! He must be built like a brick wossname to have two people on his shoulders!

Been there done that. Royal Welsh Show, Young Peoples' Village mid 90's. The year my brother did the grand slam.

He just doesn't seem to enjoy playing though. I appreciate he is focused and a competitor, but I never get the sense with him that he really loves what he does, which is why I struggle to get behind him I guess.

If I had the detection rate of Columbo Gibbo, I would be top cop in my force for sure!

Rava wrote:Hi Cari, Dreamer, Gibson, Pete and anyone else.

Cari, is it still dry in your "Glastonbury"

Hi Rava - I'm sound. I've got a (in a U2 mug - no sheet!) and am in my jimjams with the best view in the house whilst it pishes down outside

[quote="Glas a du
Been there done that. Royal Welsh Show, Young Peoples' Village mid 90's. The year my brother did the grand slam. [/quote]

Talking Sheep or Tennis there Glas? Never sure with ye mate!!

There's a bloke with a giant willy on his head in the crowd too Have you done that Glas? You Young Farmers know how to have a good barn dance don't you?

Pete, I phookin hope you've got the overcoat. No good without the overcoat.

Vino calypso pour moi Cari me dahlin'

roddersm wrote:If Murray was English the press would like him better. He'll never live down the "anyone but england" comment but he was just being honest. Thats what I like about the guy, there's no spin or BS he just wants to win and doesn't care about his popularity.

It's unfortunate for him that he's up against Nadal and Federer, two of the best ever.

That may well be true for some rodders, I daresay there are plenty of English people who don't get behind him as he is Scottish and showed a dislike for England. For me I had forgotten about that comment until you just mentioned it and my reasons for not getting behind him are solely based on my perceptions of him from what I see on court and not media image.

To be fair, I do have a bit of a general apathy towards mens tennis anyway, as at times some of the games are just incredibly dull and seem to be solely about power as opposed to skill, as seems to be the way with a lot of modern sport, our beloved game of rugby included.

Pete - I know what you mean, Murray always seems quite grumpy on court but I like that becasue it show he knows he should be playing better (even if his grumpyness doesn't always have a positive effect on his game!). He's a perfectionist. He's a lot more emotive than Federer so for me personally more interesting to watch, although I get why it can have the opposite effect on some people. My brother can't stand watching him play tennis!

I just think after years of watching Tiger Tim, it's nice to have a British player who really shows aggression on court. Just my view

Cari wrote:There's a bloke with a giant willy on his head in the crowd too Have you done that Glas? You Young Farmers know how to have a good barn dance don't you?

He loves his sheep-tennis does that Glas. And as a man, I respect him deeply for it.

Duuurty weekends away with strange sheep?

Man's a Ligind in my opinion.

Rava wrote:Pete, I phookin hope you've got the overcoat. No good without the overcoat.

Vino calypso pour moi Cari me dahlin'

I do have an over overcoat Gibbo, but sadly it is black, I might have to go and invest in a new one!

Cari wrote:

roddersm wrote:If Murray was English the press would like him better.

Let's not go there....pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!

Well I suppose Brian Moore seems to be cheering for him! Sorry Cari I just know a lot of English people who went of him after that comment.

Evening all, I've had to start recording U2 thanks to Murray not finishing the job yet

Wow I forgot how good Invictus was...easily got to number 1 of my top films, just sneaking past italian job.

Kiwireddevil wrote:Evening all, I've had to start recording U2 thanks to Murray not finishing the job yet

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm just tooo excited. Switch on to BBC 2 folks and watch the legends.

Rava wrote:[quote="Glas a du
Been there done that. Royal Welsh Show, Young Peoples' Village mid 90's. The year my brother did the grand slam.

Talking Sheep or Tennis there Glas? Never sure with ye mate!![/quote]

(and no not sheep)

prop_lyd wrote:Wow I forgot how good Invictus was...easily got to number 1 of my top films, just sneaking past italian job.

I've never watched it. I'm not sure I could after watching the 1995 WC when it was happening. That was an incredible tournament.

You see I was only 7 then so can't remember much of it but I think it's the film which gives me the most goosebump moments throughout!!

Murray wins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sky in NZ have had to tell their commentators not to use nicknames during the RWC, so as not to confuse foreign viewers ... http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10734400

Feck it's Mark Radacliffe, what a legend! I remember meeting him when he was in that pogues tribute/Irish band thing he was in! I was completely smashed and kept asking him where his mate lard was....

Glas,
Ive yet to do the Grand Slam. Need an Italian to complete it. And not in one year like. Give me a break. Already.

Murray wins. Good test for him.

Well done Andy!!

woooo victory for Murray!

Well regardless of his views on football (and it is very, very funny when England get knocked out of major tournaments to be fair ) he does look like the world Number Four. When compared to the top three.

Still, good win for him. Got the job done.

Go for it Rodders, great film. Nothing like the book though

Well done Murray mint.

Oh Jebus, one of the band must've gone for a dump...we've got something else on at the minute. The wonders of live telly.

I'll tell you what, when I was going there is was two tents, one for the band and one for the bar (which was bigger). You could hear the music from the bar. Now its on open air rock concert type thing. In my day the girls wore rugby shirts and jeans. Now they wouldn't look out of place in the middle of any town. The soul has gone I tell you, gone.

Hi Notch mate. <BScBAPHDDIPTRACTORDRIVER>

Gibson wrote:Glas,
Ive yet to do the Grand Slam. Need an Italian to complete it. And not in one year like. Give me a break. Already.

Murray wins. Good test for him.

The Royal Welsh is four days.

Notch - agree with you on that, Murray is still a way behind the top 3. What I will say though, which I along with most Murray fans ahve been saying for like the last three years, he's never going to win a Slam until he gets a better 2nd serve! He got punished on that today. Once his first serve goes he's in trouble.

Oh Glas...the YFC still have their barn dances don't they? Are they posh do's now?

Come on guys....! If they do something from October and/or Unforgettable Fire I'll cry!!

Glas a du wrote:

Gibson wrote:Glas,
Ive yet to do the Grand Slam. Need an Italian to complete it. And not in one year like. Give me a break. Already.

Murray wins. Good test for him.

The Royal Welsh is four days.

Any Italians going?

Rava wrote:Go for it Rodders, great film. Nothing like the book though

Really? Who wrote the book?

It was amazing when SA won though, there was a sense of destiny about it.

Jonah Lomu bursting on the scene though, wow I'll never forget that. I remember my rugby coach after saying Lomu reminded him of me...I think he was being sarcastic.....

Now Cari, keep your k******s on. If ye cry it will get wet and then you will have to put on yer wellies. You'll look like a young farmer then!!