MURRAY V MITCHELL

Does anybody have a link to watch the press conference after the fight last night?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxfPsJ1qidk

Haye's toe does look pretty bad.

You have to ask yourself this; would Haye have mentioned the toe of Wlad had been knocked out by one or two of the big punches Haye landed? No. Equally, if Haye had managed to win on points because he was hindered by the toe then he would have said he implemented the perfect gameplan - and still not mentioned the toe.

Sore loser, Wlad the better man, end of story.

Wouldn't be surprised if Booth's plan b was to hit Haye's toe with a hammer as soon as he leaves the ring.

Bob wrote:Wouldn't be surprised if Booth's plan b was to hit Haye's toe with a hammer as soon as he leaves the ring.

ROFL.

The sky post-fight interview was brilliant - with Haye sounding like he criticised the way Wlad won in such a "safety-first" manner. Given the way Haye fought - in a safety first manner throughout - I though that was a bit rich.

Haye is using the toe to try and get a rematch. He wants another shot at a big pay day.

This fight could be sold as unfinished business.

1. Wlad didn't knock Haye out cause Haye did not come to fight due to his broken toe.

2. A more aggressive Haye could test Wlad more and produce a proper fighting display from both men.


The fight did not satisfy a lot of peoples appetite and I think the obvious anomosity between the two camps at the post fight presser is enough to sell another fight.

The fcontest just felt like an appetizer with neither men really fighting. If people could be sold on a proper violent fight a rematch is a possiblity.

The fact that there are so few options for Wlad could mean it could happen.

Strongback wrote:
1. Wlad didn't knock Haye out cause Haye did not come to fight .

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Did you really expect him to go toe to toe?


I'll get mi coat

Bob wrote:

Strongback wrote:
1. Wlad didn't knock Haye out cause Haye did not come to fight .

.

Did you really expect him to go toe to toe?


I'll get mi coat

No I didn't expect him to go toe to toe. Neither boxer wanted to fight.

I was expecting a performance a la Sugar Ray v Duran 2 cause I'd heard so much about how Haye was going to circle the ring and use a mastery of footwork to dance between Wlads long arms before landing decisive combinations then retreating unscathed.

Seriously though I did expect Haye to put more punches together because the only way Wlad has been defeated is when he was put on the back foot.

Haye was terrified of stamina problems which is why he threw so few punches. He was fighing very scared by the end. As many a pundit said Haye needed to go in and try to take Wlad out in the first 4 or 5 rounds.

Bob wrote:

Strongback wrote:
1. Wlad didn't knock Haye out cause Haye did not come to fight .

.

Did you really expect him to go toe to toe?


I'll get mi coat

Nice one.

Bob wrote:

Strongback wrote:
1. Wlad didn't knock Haye out cause Haye did not come to fight .

.

Did you really expect him to go toe to toe?


I'll get mi coat

Completely missed that.


Does this confirm Haye is a bit on the pinky side.

There won't be a rematch because:

1. The fight wasn't close
2. The fight wasn't entertaining

I hope Haye just calls it a day and retires now, he's a 2 weight World Champion full credit for that, but wasn't good enough at the very highest level, oh well.

Haye may as well chase a Vitali for a fight and then leg it for 12 rounds.

Bit more cash to chick on the heap and he can't damage his legacy now because he doesn't have one.

Looks like this fight is either delayed or not going ahead. It is not on the Sky EPG for next Saturday. A quick search said it is going to be moved to the 16th, the Burns V Cook date. Also rumours are Mitchell is struggling with the weight. Since Mitchell is the Warren promoted fighter this might make sense being moved back a week. Be gentle, first topic! Think there has been enough Haye stuff on here today.

glad to see a non haye thread.

getting annoyed about this fight now, just get it done!

Yeah sick of thinking about Haye V Klit.

SHould be a decent fight Mitchell struggling to make weight as in being too heavy or light do we know?

Von Trapp: Since Mitchell is the Warren promoted fighter this might make sense being moved back a week.
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They are both promoted by Warren, Murray left Hennessey around the same time as Carl Froch did and signed with Frank.

Mitchell is a small lightweight, if he's having trouble making weight it shows again his lack if committment to training as per the katsidas fight. I really question his dedication to the sport, he's in the last chance saloon as it is.

It has the potential to be a decent scrap, both guys for me are euro level at best though, I don't see the winner ever establishing himself on the world stage.

The lightweight world class opponents have too much for them I reckon...

Would echo the sentiments of Sugar Boy; why is Mitchell, who looks like nothing more than a natural Super-Featherweight, supposedly struggling so badly to get down to 135 lb? He's a talented fighter (a way off truly world class, mind you) but his work ethic just doesn't seem to be there.

Regardless of when the fight happens, though, I think he'll prove too good for Murray. The Mancunian is a decent fighter, but tries to brawl all the time without any genuine knock out power and, when confronted with someone who can stick and move on the back foot, looks bemused. Mitchell by a wide decision, for me.

Maybe depends on how fit Mitchell is, if the heart isn't there than I doubt he has trained sufficiently and could gas out late, Murray may not hit too hard but he hits hard enough to stop people, especially people naturally lighter than him.

Sugar Boy Sweetie wrote:Von Trapp: Since Mitchell is the Warren promoted fighter this might make sense being moved back a week.
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They are both promoted by Warren, Murray left Hennessey around the same time as Carl Froch did and signed with Frank.

Mitchell is a small lightweight, if he's having trouble making weight it shows again his lack if committment to training as per the katsidas fight. I really question his dedication to the sport, he's in the last chance saloon as it is.

It has the potential to be a decent scrap, both guys for me are euro level at best though, I don't see the winner ever establishing himself on the world stage.

Cheers Sugar Boy I had fogotten that, makes even more sense then. A lot of fighters have been moving camp recently!

Bamber, this is one of many frankly moronic posts I have read by you, give it a rest and stop your personal feelings for Haye making you conjure up whopping turds like this.

However, silly that nature of Haye's excuse is, the video clip does show conclusively that Haye's foot is mangled. The medical students amongst you will know that the big toe is absolutely vital to maintain balance.

Now whether or not it would have made a difference to the outcome of the fight, I'm not convinced but it would appear that it's enough to convince Wlad he wants another chance to KO Haye.

Dave, I can understand the whole toe thing being a real injury and would be happy to let that go as a legitimate reason but for me presonally it was the way that as soon as a microphone was nearby it was the first thing he tried to get across. It just lacked class to be honest.

When you consider Manny and his "wrong socks" excuse...and let's not forget he didn't bring the offending footwear to the press conference as evidence...he seems to have done OK out of it.

Yes, Haye will have to eat shovelfuls of humble pie but it's only to be expected. In a few weeks it will all die down, a rematch will get made which will fly under the radar, the press/public at large won't give a **** and Haye will get another shot.

His movement looking fine to me. They put me in a full leg cast for a dislocated big toe.

What are your medial qualifications again? That cast was obviously to stop you putting your foot in your mouth, Jamsie

alma wrote:quite comical how he marched to the ring no problem, then did an exaggerated hobble back to his dressing room a la Basil Fawlty complaining of his old war wound.

Twelve rounds of constant motion wouldn't have made any difference now would it..?

My my there are some silly comments being thrown about today!

Fists of Fury wrote:My my there are some silly comments being thrown about today!

The board has been invaded by tards who will claim to know all about boxing before wandering off the forum in about 10hrs time, only to reappear and spout their drivel the next time a big fight comes around.

Still, it's not as bad as the old 606 got with the amount of mentally deficient idiots that would come on there.

Sorry lads but getting quite bored of the Haye V Klit post fight talk. Was plain to see what happened so feels it's reached its end now.

So, this fight coming up this Saturday, quite a big domestic clash with the winner propelling themself towards a World title shot (maybe). So how do you think this will go this weekend?

Murray smacks Mitchell around and stops him in the mid rounds.

That prediction is completely clouded by an unrivalled, bitter and total hatred for Mitchell. I really, really can't stand the chavvie c-word. Is quite possibly one of the most overrated fighters i've ever witnessed as well.

Am I alone in remembering that Haye had apparently finished sparring three weeks before the fight, two weeks earlier than usual? Did Haye not say after the fight that he'd broken his toe three weeks previously? Di he also give a bafflingly brief display of sparring at the final media training photo session?

Haye's excuse may be (and probably is) irrelevant to the result, but I do wonder now if these incidents are tied together.

I think Mitchell wins this with something to spare, to be honest. I've never been sold on Murray, he's a brawler without a punch as they say and I think that he'll have nightmares against most decent technicians who can box on the back foot. Mitchell, for all his faults, can do just that.

I honestly think that Murray's best hope is to try and bully Mitchell and draw him in to an inside brawl using his size advantage, as Mitchell just doesn't seem to be a natural Lightweight to me. But if Mitchell keeps a game plan, I think he'll soundly outbox Murray and take a fairly comfortable points decision.

Sorry mate this is going to be merged with the other Murray Mitchell thread.

Can you please start having a scroll down to see if the article has already been done before creating a new one, as it is getting very cluttered especially in wake of the HW fight the other night.

Thanks

Im still not sure Mitchell is mentally right, it was a big bottle job against Kastidis, and like Coxy, I cannot stand him, horrible little t***.

Hope Murray systematically destroys him, forcing him to retire!

This is a Haye/Wlad thread Fists, someone is trying (and failing) to be clever.

Ouch, let me give myself a big

If what I hear is correct and he's struggling to make 135, Mitchell has got some issues. Given his size, he should a natual Super-feather.

I think its a lack of dedication on his part. Plus after seeing what Gallagher puts his stable through, you know Murray is goin to be 100% prepared and incondition.

I see Mitchel being stopped around 7-10

Aplogoies for the merging man sausage up, was rushing being busy at work. Shan't happen again!

:O man sausage? I said c0 ck up, I promise!

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:If what I hear is correct and he's struggling to make 135, Mitchell has got some issues. Given his size, he should a natual Super-feather.

I think its a lack of dedication on his part. Plus after seeing what Gallagher puts his stable through, you know Murray is goin to be 100% prepared and incondition.

I see Mitchel being stopped around 7-10

Mitchell's struggling to make 135?? Could be all the munchies, I suppose...

So Mitchell is ill (apparently has a virus), and the fight has been delayed???

Am I the only one who reads that as, Mitchell can't make the weight in time for Saturday???

DAVE667 wrote:However, silly that nature of Haye's excuse is, the video clip does show conclusively that Haye's foot is mangled. The medical students amongst you will know that the big toe is absolutely vital to maintain balance.

Now whether or not it would have made a difference to the outcome of the fight, I'm not convinced but it would appear that it's enough to convince Wlad he wants another chance to KO Haye.

It was his little toe...