Ireland vs Australia - Discussion Thread

[MMC]

First topic message reminder :

Ireland:
1. Cian Healy
2. Rory Best
3. Mike Ross
4. Donncha O'Callaghan
5. Paul O'Connell
6. Stephen Ferris
7. Sean O'Brien
8. Jamie Heaslip
9. Eoin Reddan
10. Jonathan Sexton
11. Keith Earls
12. Gordon D'Arcy
13. Brian O'Driscoll (c)
14. Tommy Bowe
15. Rob Kearney

Replacements:
16. Jerry Flannery
17. Tom Court
18. Donnacha Ryan
19. Denis Leamy
20. Conor Murray
21. Ronan O'Gara
22. Andrew Trimble


Australia:
15. Kurtley Beale (NSW Waratahs)
14. James O’Connor (Western Force)
13. Anthony Fainga’a (Queensland Reds)
12. Pat McCabe (Brumbies)
11. Adam Ashley-Cooper (Brumbies)
10. Quade Cooper (Queensland Reds)
9. Will Genia (Queensland Reds)
8. Radike Samo (Queensland Reds)
7. David Pocock (Western Force)
6. Rocky Elsom (Brumbies)
5. James Horwill (Queensland Reds, captain)
4. Dan Vickerman (NSW Waratahs)
3. Ben Alexander (Brumbies)
2. Stephen Moore (Brumbies)
1. Sekope Kepu (NSW Waratahs)

Reserves:
16. Tatafu Polota Nau (NSW Waratahs)
17. James Slipper (Queensland Reds)
18. Rob Simmons (Queensland Reds)
19. Ben McCalman (Western Force)
20. Scott Higginbotham (Queensland Reds)
21. Luke Burgess (NSW Waratahs)
22. Drew Mitchell (NSW Waratahs)

COME ON IRELAND!!

littlejohn's thread about how we can beat the Wallabies:

Would like to hear other people's views on what ireland need to do to have a chance of beating Australia this Saturday. Here are some of my naive thoughts on what needs to happen:

1. Ireland to play with same agression when they played England earlier this year. While ireland have not really performed since then, I'm quietly confident they'll be fired up for this game!

2. Steal some of Italy's tactics for the game. Italy did really well in the first half vs Oz by kicking very well timed up and unders (generally aimed at AAC), and they were very well organised in defence, which resulted in frustration creeping in for the Wallabies. If they had a decent 10 this might have been a lot closer!

3. Start with ROG - His tactical kicking and ability to vary it is in my opinion a better fit for this kind of game. We can always bring Sexton on later if we need to change tactics. I think he's also marginally better at kicking penalty and conversions.

4. Whereever Cooper is standing in defence run at him (ideally using O'Brien/Ferris) - Pretty obvious one this, although he does often stand deep covering full back off lineouts, etc.

5. Play Australia at their own game - Australia have been very good at putting pressure on rucks, but Ireland will need to do the same when Australia have the ball, slowing it down where possible to stop Genia getting into gear.

6. Leverage Bowe and Kearney's height - Cross field kicks (timed well) could reap rewards for us. Rog is excellent at this.

All in all I accept this will be a tall order, but Ireland play the underdog tag better than anyone! I'm praying it won't be yet another herioc defeat. Bring on Saturday!

[HURLEY_BURLEY]

I have a feeling Sexton will be King on Saturday. Then everything will be Hunky-Dory. We can all Skip(s) to the pub to celebrate for lots of chat and Waffle(s).
Except Tayto of course.

[rodders]

But if you´re a true supporter, you get behind the team and focus on the fact that the guys are all wearing the same jersey and that it doesn´t matter where the guys come from provincially. They´ve all been chosen to represent their country and on the day they´re all you´ve got between defeat and victory.

Well said. If everyone in Irish rugby felt like that the world would be a better place.

[Breadvan]

blimey! Love to see all you lot in a boozer talking about the Ireland team after a few/substantial amounts of

[Boyne]

I prefer King's crisps anyway......

[Gibson]

Bit of light-hearted fun from Risteard on Matt Willams and Neil Francis. Its close to the bone as to how they operate...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8o9KyFxppY

[Jenifer McLadyboy]

blimey! Love to see all you lot in a boozer talking about the Ireland team after a few/substantial amounts of

We all got on really well in Limerick after the Magners League final in May. (Mind you we had to let the feckers win to keep the peace)

[clivemcl]

Bit of light-hearted fun from Risteard on Matt Willams and Neil Francis. Its close to the bone as to how they operate...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8o9KyFxppY

[shantara]

I've just had the most marvellous lunch with an old Aussie friend. Needless to say all the talk was about tomorrows game. He's very confident that they will comfortably put us away.

It may have been that second bottle of claret, but I believe that we can actually win this. We have the team, we have the talent, we just need the passion, commitment and desire to destroy everything that is yellow before us tomorrow.

This might be a peed man's wish on a sunny Friday afternoon, but can we forget the provincial bias and all get behind our team.

In 1974 one of Ireland's greatest ever players led the Lions - Willie John McBride. Fingers crossed that in tomorrow's match our current generation will live by his words -

"We take no prisoners".

[clivemcl]

Has there been a natural disaster down south or something? hello?

Just heard that Kieth Earls has sat out of the Captains Run for anyone who is still here...

[GunsGerms]

But if you´re a true supporter, you get behind the team and focus on the fact that the guys are all wearing the same jersey and that it doesn´t matter where the guys come from provincially. They´ve all been chosen to represent their country and on the day they´re all you´ve got between defeat and victory.

Well said. If everyone in Irish rugby felt like that the world would be a better place.

It's only really some clueless munster punters in my experience. For me Ireland always comes before province.

[Gibson]

I've just had the most marvellous lunch with an old Aussie friend. Needless to say all the talk was about tomorrows game. He's very confident that they will comfortably put us away.

It may have been that second bottle of claret, but I believe that we can actually win this. We have the team, we have the talent, we just need the passion, commitment and desire to destroy everything that is yellow before us tomorrow.

This might be a peed man's wish on a sunny Friday afternoon, but can we forget the provincial bias and all get behind our team.

In 1974 one of Ireland's greatest ever players led the Lions - Willie John McBride. Fingers crossed that in tomorrow's match our current generation will live by his words -

"We take no prisoners".

Love it! What rugby is all about. Jazz, rugby and convo.

[Tayto]

But if you´re a true supporter, you get behind the team and focus on the fact that the guys are all wearing the same jersey and that it doesn´t matter where the guys come from provincially. They´ve all been chosen to represent their country and on the day they´re all you´ve got between defeat and victory.

Well said. If everyone in Irish rugby felt like that the world would be a better place.

It's only really some clueless munster punters in my experience. For me Ireland always comes before province.

Funny that Boyne's sidekick should turn up.
The second part of the old threesome.

Now sit down and have a good old think about some of the bile you posted on 606 with your previous username.
(for me Ireland always comes before province) You little fibber.

[Gibson]

Has there been a natural disaster down south or something? hello?

Just heard that Kieth Earls has sat out of the Captains Run for anyone who is still here...

Ooh phook. I can feel Trimble starting, McFadden in and lots and lots of stats to follow.

Nah, I hope he's ok. Deccie picked him. Trusted him to shine and I hope he gets that chance. ONE Country!

[Jenifer McLadyboy]

But if you´re a true supporter, you get behind the team and focus on the fact that the guys are all wearing the same jersey and that it doesn´t matter where the guys come from provincially. They´ve all been chosen to represent their country and on the day they´re all you´ve got between defeat and victory.

Well said. If everyone in Irish rugby felt like that the world would be a better place.

It's only really some clueless munster punters in my experience. For me Ireland always comes before province.

I'm not sure if you realise the the irony of that comment.

"Those one eyed Munster fans are awful eejits. Here in Leinster not only are we perfect but we are unbiased too"

I think you will find a roughly similar proportion of gobsh1tes in Leinster as you do in Munster. In fact I know of several Leinster fans who would unashamedly put Leinster before Ireland. And who am I to judge them just because I would put Ireland 1st. (or at least not have to make a choice because Leinster and Ireland never play eachother)

No rights and wrongs in supporting sport, only opinions.

[Tayto]

But if you´re a true supporter, you get behind the team and focus on the fact that the guys are all wearing the same jersey and that it doesn´t matter where the guys come from provincially. They´ve all been chosen to represent their country and on the day they´re all you´ve got between defeat and victory.

Well said. If everyone in Irish rugby felt like that the world would be a better place.

It's only really some clueless munster punters in my experience. For me Ireland always comes before province.

I'm not sure if you realise the the irony of that comment.

"Those one eyed Munster fans are awful eejits. Here in Leinster not only are we perfect but we are unbiased too"

I think you will find a roughly similar proportion of gobsh1tes in Leinster as you do in Munster. In fact I know of several Leinster fans who would unashamedly put Leinster before Ireland. And who am I to judge them just because I would put Ireland 1st. (or at least not have to make a choice because Leinster and Ireland never play eachother)

No rights and wrongs in supporting sport, only opinions.

You will find there are 3/4 of the Leinster group on here that fall into that catergory.
When people's opinions are ridiculed and insults levelled at you then you know what kind of so called IRISH supporter you are dealing with.

[Feckless Rogue]

Complete gobshoites are pretty evenly spread around the world.

I've decided I'm not gonna mention the words "Munster" or "Leinster" for the rest of the World Cup after this post.

Oh by the way, why is "Munster" recognised by the spell checker as a correct word, but "Leinster" gets a big red line under it as if it's a spelling mistake. Grrrrr. The spell checker is biased. Was probably designed by someone from Cork. Working in Dublin no doubt.

[Gibson]

Complete gobshoites are pretty evenly spread around the world.

I've decided I'm not gonna mention the words "Munster" or "Leinster" for the rest of the World Cup after this post.

Oh by the way, why is "Munster" recognised by the spell checker as a correct word, but "Leinster" gets a big red line under it as if it's a spelling mistake. Grrrrr. The spell checker is biased. Was probably designed by someone from Cork. Working in Dublin no doubt.

Goys. Lids. Lawwwds. Laaads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAmn4eMusZk

Lennon = Leinster = Inventive and wayward.
McCartney = Munster = Solid and never stops till that bell rings.
Harrison = Ulster = bit of both.
Ringo = Connacht = Drumming in the background - but a key supplier.

But, when they came together.... best team ever seen or heard. And we are playing the Bee-Gees and Kylie tomorrow. I mean. NO chance. They have NO chance.
I could have done it with U2, but Bono is a t8at!

Believe!

[GunsGerms]

But if you´re a true supporter, you get behind the team and focus on the fact that the guys are all wearing the same jersey and that it doesn´t matter where the guys come from provincially. They´ve all been chosen to represent their country and on the day they´re all you´ve got between defeat and victory.

Well said. If everyone in Irish rugby felt like that the world would be a better place.

It's only really some clueless munster punters in my experience. For me Ireland always comes before province.

Funny that Boyne's sidekick should turn up.
The second part of the old threesome.

Now sit down and have a good old think about some of the bile you posted on 606 with your previous username.
(for me Ireland always comes before province) You little fibber.

Vassever. GunsGerms lives on in me. Tis true. When our forces combine we become Ireland super supporter.

By the way has there been any discussion who will defend 10 channel now that Digby is out? Hopefully Cooper himself will. That would be fun.

[Thomond]

Who the feck cares about all this tripe from the old place,would you stop the b!tching and get behind the team?! People are entitled to give out about someone if he doesn't play well, a Munster fan can have a cut off any player,so can any other of the provinces,would you just cut out the rubbish?!

[GunsGerms]

Who the feck cares about all this tripe from the old place,would you stop the b!tching and get behind the team?! People are entitled to give out about someone if he doesn't play well, a Munster fan can have a cut off any player,so can any other of the provinces,would you just cut out the rubbish?!

What the f are on about? Make sense man. Tell me who is defending 10 for Oz.

[rodders]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRrMP4jShx4&feature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OJgw2Z3k0I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMSn2hwC7Mg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaDz4rGMdVM&feature=related

[Thomond]

I'm sick of the sh!t that goes on in every Irish thread is what I'm saying. I think McCabe or Faingaa might go in there.

[GunsGerms]

I hope that OBrien smashes Poo man sausage tomorrow. Come on Ireland!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GunsGerms]

Well that really ruined my amazing post.

[GunsGerms]

Good night lads. Im off out to get smashed and party until KO tomorrow because my wife and kids are away. Hope you all enjoy the match.

[GunsGerms]

...Not quite mike tindal style but a good lads night. Yes!

[rodders]

Lay off the dwarves leinsterbaby

[GunsGerms]

On the Luas but switched up to the iPhone now so I can keep an eye on yous. I'll keep my mitts off the dwarfs promise.

[GunsGerms]

Actually that's dwarves isn't it?

[Gibson]

Lovin de vids Rodders. Have a great night Baby. Roide an Aussie will ya? We wont tell. Honest.

Im sayin this now. I said it before the SLAM and 2 HC Wins.

Ireland are going to wake up tomorrow and beat Oz.

Believe!

[GunsGerms]

I might do the motorboating but I'll draw the line on the ride. Cheers though.

[Gibson]

Baby,
I didn't mean a woman, You're happily married. I meant a man.

Carry on.

[GunsGerms]

Ok gibbo I'll do me besht

[PJHolybloke]

C'mon ye jolly green giants!

Ireland by 9 - it has to be, I've picked it on Sport Guru.

[Gatts]

C'mon ye jolly green giants!

Ireland by 9 - it has to be, I've picked it on Sport Guru.

Ireland can do it, but you'll need early domination up front and Sexton and BOD to actually turn up

[Gibson]

That would help Gatts. In fact, we all have to turn up to even push Oz close. It's my team of choice to win it. Has been for years now. (Ireland for a SF would do me) Oz are World Champs designate. The AB's will fall to a lesser side. Like England. And France could have em in the Pool. Now wouldn't that be fun eh?

Redefine it all after that - if it happens. NZ would go into paranoic melt-down.

Be great craic to watch though. In fairness.

I can see England in the Final.

[aucklandlaurie]

Prices on the New Zealand TAB:
Australia $1.15.
Ireland $5.00.....Head to Head..

[Gatts]

That would help Gatts. In fact, we all have to turn up to even push Oz close. It's my team of choice to win it. Has been for years now. (Ireland for a SF would do me) Oz are World Champs designate. The AB's will fall to a lesser side. Like England. And France could have em in the Pool. Now wouldn't that be fun eh?

Redefine it all after that - if it happens. NZ would go into paranoic melt-down.

Be great craic to watch though. In fairness.

I can see England in the Final.

England were my bolter for the final for ages but i think Aussies might make it after Eng semi

[Gibson]

That would help Gatts. In fact, we all have to turn up to even push Oz close. It's my team of choice to win it. Has been for years now. (Ireland for a SF would do me) Oz are World Champs designate. The AB's will fall to a lesser side. Like England. And France could have em in the Pool. Now wouldn't that be fun eh?

Redefine it all after that - if it happens. NZ would go into paranoic melt-down.

Be great craic to watch though. In fairness.

I can see England in the Final.

England were my bolter for the final for ages but i think Aussies might make it after Eng semi

OK thats phhoked that predicted theory. But, we don't know who will top their respective groups yet. What if Scotland beat Argentina and then England? They could. All 3 are nothing special. What if France beat NZ in their pool? What if Samoa beat Wales? And the Saffers? That would shift so many equations somewhat.

I'd love it if all that happened. Some of it may. I personally - hope it does.

[Nos na Gaoithe]

Pocock out! Its official:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/rugby-gold/david-pocock-out-of-ireland-showdown/story-fn8ouw0e-1226139644486

And our chances of causing an upset just doubled... SOB will be facing an equally untested and inexperienced openside.

[WillyGilly]

Boom. Ireland by 10 now.

[Nos na Gaoithe]

Boom. Ireland by 10 now.

Well it certainly evens things up... but it may also remove any complacency or overconfidence that might have been there for the Australians. They know their in for a real fight now.

[Nos na Gaoithe]

Well it certainly evens things up... but it may also remove any complacency or overconfidence that might have been there for the Australians. They know their in for a real fight now.

Translation: Boom. Ireland by 5.

[emack2]

Kick for position. keep it tight don`t kick any stupid balls down there throats
kick you goals.Then you are in with a chance.

[Gibson]

OK, Ok. That's where we would have lost it. Without Jennings. Now, we have a realistic chance. All ball-carriers vs ball-carriers in the backrow.

Grand.

Ooooooooooooooh!

BELIEVE!

[Gatts]

blimey....that makes it very interesting as ire should now comfortably dominate the tackle area...unmissable game. Far too early to predict the winner, i am going to wait until 79 minutes because this will be very very tight.

If Ire win their group then they get Wales/Samoa/Fiji not SA so they will be well up for it

and get o gara on as soon as sexton misses 2 kicks

[Gibson]

Phook O Gara. Maybe to wet his toes at 78 mins. We don't need him now. Without Pocock, Oz are so vunerable in the key area. SOB and the Leinster boys to run riot after securing the breakdown and moving it.


Its over. Leinster (Ireland) by 15.

[Gatts]

Phook O Gara. Maybe to wet his toes at 78 mins. We don't need him now. Without Pocock, Oz are so vunerable in the key area. SOB and the Leinster boys to run riot after securing the breakdown and moving it.


Its over. Leinster (Ireland) by 15.

Don't whatever you do bring him on in the last few minutes as an impact player, he will give away a match winning pen, quite an impact

[Nos na Gaoithe]

Without Pocock, Oz are so vunerable in the key area. SOB and the Leinster boys to run riot after securing the breakdown and moving it. Its over. Leinster (Ireland) by 15.

Gibbo you been on the bubbly already? Rocky on his own still wldn't be that easy! And we need to take baby steps first (like not dropping the ball every 3rd phase).

But i am licking my lips at the thought of the Tullow tank now being let off the leash a bit more with Ferris right there on his shoulder for the lay off!

[Gibson]

Yeah Gatts. True. The Lion who lost a series. I'm with ya there.

He's handy backup though.

Phhhok me, Im feeling we are in possible game winning situation here. I didn't before to be honest. Oz are superb. But now... the pendulum has swung. The breakdown, would always define how this game went. SOB is not a 7. But neither is his oppo now.

Its game on!

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