Khan puts his money where his mouth is....

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Why couldn't he just stuff it all in his mouth quite literally? Khan has decided to formerly appeal, oh dear.

"Stop pushing him away Khan" - Everyone heard him getting warned, is just the desperate act of a sore loser.

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Azania, I dont think anyone is criticising him for not accepting defeat. Nearly all boxers believe they won a close fight. But therein is the issue. Khan is screaming sheer bloody robbery as if the whole thing was a set up. His comments about boxing in Washington, about being robbed and so on go well above and beyond what the situation was. Look at Macklin and Murray. They both said they thought they won, both kind of insinuated that it was going to be tough to get a decision in Germany but they ultimately accepted it and got on with it and admitted the fights were close. Even Chisora and JMM who were well and truly shafted didnt kick up as big a fuss.

The other point in regards to the appeal, you may well be right in saying that its mainly GB who are driving it but do you think if this was another fighter they would not be getting stick for it? If Frochs promoter had tried to get the Kessler verdict overturned, Or Dirrell tried to get the Froch verdict overturned they would get a huge deal of stick for it. Its not unique to Khan. Pacquiao got tons of stick for saying he thought he beat JMM. Mayweather got tons of stick for his cheap shot at Ortiz. Haye got tons of stick for the toe incident. Khans reaction to losing a close fight has been way out of proportion and people think its a bit childish. I would imagine the same would happen to any top fighter who did the same thing. God forbid Pacquiao or Mayweather ever tried a similar stunt, the internet would probably freeze up.

rowley wrote:Can't be bothered to get into it again Az, life is too short, myself and many others have pointed out the difference between the Tyson and Khan situations and you know enough about the game to know the differences yourself. You continually cling to it out of nothing but stuborness as a selective presentation of the facts in that situation is the one thing that supports your theory that either Khan is not in any way behind this appeal or the reaction of people to the appeal is disproportionate.

Selective presentation? Now that is funny.

Nevermind. Lets all blame Khan and actually praising him for controlling GBP in the manner you all assume he does. Very clever boy and no doubt we've all under-estimated his intelligence and over-estimated his boxing skills.

manos de piedra wrote:Azania, I dont think anyone is criticising him for not accepting defeat. Nearly all boxers believe they won a close fight. But therein is the issue. Khan is screaming sheer bloody robbery as if the whole thing was a set up. His comments about boxing in Washington, about being robbed and so on go well above and beyond what the situation was. Look at Macklin and Murray. They both said they thought they won, both kind of insinuated that it was going to be tough to get a decision in Germany but they ultimately accepted it and got on with it and admitted the fights were close. Even Chisora and JMM who were well and truly shafted didnt kick up as big a fuss.

The other point in regards to the appeal, you may well be right in saying that its mainly GB who are driving it but do you think if this was another fighter they would not be getting stick for it? If Frochs promoter had tried to get the Kessler verdict overturned, Or Dirrell tried to get the Froch verdict overturned they would get a huge deal of stick for it. Its not unique to Khan. Pacquiao got tons of stick for saying he thought he beat JMM. Mayweather got tons of stick for his cheap shot at Ortiz. Haye got tons of stick for the toe incident. Khans reaction to losing a close fight has been way out of proportion and people think its a bit childish. I would imagine the same would happen to any top fighter who did the same thing. God forbid Pacquiao or Mayweather ever tried a similar stunt, the internet would probably freeze up.

He's criticised for whining and moaning like a baby or little girl and for launching the appeal or not distancing himself from the appeal.

Of course fighters would be getting stick, but imo their stick would be tampered with common sense as to who is actually behind it all.

SugarRayRussell wrote:The appeal isn't about point deductions it's about the fact GBP said the scorecards were changed after the fight. GBP claim they were told Khan had won the fight on 2 scorecards and then one was changed.

Khan and his team are claiming the point deductions were unfair. Schaefer mentioned this as well but the IBF already dismissed that saying it is in the rules that the ref can dock points for a push because it is a foul even if it is rare that you see it happen.

Some actually believe that the appeal is about the closeness of the fight and only that.

azania wrote: He's criticised for whining and moaning like a baby or little girl and for launching the appeal or not distancing himself from the appeal.

Isnt that the way he is coming across?

The scorecards issue has already been addressed on here Az, something you tend to ignore. The only card we've been given proof of change is the master card and that simply looks like an administrative error as opposed to anything cynical.

azania wrote:

SugarRayRussell wrote:The appeal isn't about point deductions it's about the fact GBP said the scorecards were changed after the fight. GBP claim they were told Khan had won the fight on 2 scorecards and then one was changed.

Khan and his team are claiming the point deductions were unfair. Schaefer mentioned this as well but the IBF already dismissed that saying it is in the rules that the ref can dock points for a push because it is a foul even if it is rare that you see it happen.

Some actually believe that the appeal is about the closeness of the fight and only that.

I know which is wrong. I don't like the appeal it takes some of the shine off what was a career best performance from Peterson who changed from his usual style and did something he doesn't usually do because he knew he could beat Khan that way. Not many fighters can do that most have one way of boxing and that's it.

azania wrote:

manos de piedra wrote:Azania, I dont think anyone is criticising him for not accepting defeat. Nearly all boxers believe they won a close fight. But therein is the issue. Khan is screaming sheer bloody robbery as if the whole thing was a set up. His comments about boxing in Washington, about being robbed and so on go well above and beyond what the situation was. Look at Macklin and Murray. They both said they thought they won, both kind of insinuated that it was going to be tough to get a decision in Germany but they ultimately accepted it and got on with it and admitted the fights were close. Even Chisora and JMM who were well and truly shafted didnt kick up as big a fuss.

The other point in regards to the appeal, you may well be right in saying that its mainly GB who are driving it but do you think if this was another fighter they would not be getting stick for it? If Frochs promoter had tried to get the Kessler verdict overturned, Or Dirrell tried to get the Froch verdict overturned they would get a huge deal of stick for it. Its not unique to Khan. Pacquiao got tons of stick for saying he thought he beat JMM. Mayweather got tons of stick for his cheap shot at Ortiz. Haye got tons of stick for the toe incident. Khans reaction to losing a close fight has been way out of proportion and people think its a bit childish. I would imagine the same would happen to any top fighter who did the same thing. God forbid Pacquiao or Mayweather ever tried a similar stunt, the internet would probably freeze up.

He's criticised for whining and moaning like a baby or little girl and for launching the appeal or not distancing himself from the appeal.

Of course fighters would be getting stick, but imo their stick would be tampered with common sense as to who is actually behind it all.

Yes but you seem to suggesting that the stick is unique to Khan, as in there is an agenda against him personally. I see it as case that any top fighter in his spot would be getting stick.

I agree with you on the point regarding GBP, but Khan own personal response has been to insinuate an out and out robbery which I dont think is really the case.

azania wrote:

SugarRayRussell wrote:The appeal isn't about point deductions it's about the fact GBP said the scorecards were changed after the fight. GBP claim they were told Khan had won the fight on 2 scorecards and then one was changed.

Khan and his team are claiming the point deductions were unfair. Schaefer mentioned this as well but the IBF already dismissed that saying it is in the rules that the ref can dock points for a push because it is a foul even if it is rare that you see it happen.

Some actually believe that the appeal is about the closeness of the fight and only that.

No, most understand that Khan wasn't happy with the ref. He didn't like Washington. His changing room was too cold. His shower towel was the wrong color. They didn't provide him slippers in his hotel.

Etc etc etc.

coxy0001 wrote:

azania wrote:

SugarRayRussell wrote:The appeal isn't about point deductions it's about the fact GBP said the scorecards were changed after the fight. GBP claim they were told Khan had won the fight on 2 scorecards and then one was changed.

Khan and his team are claiming the point deductions were unfair. Schaefer mentioned this as well but the IBF already dismissed that saying it is in the rules that the ref can dock points for a push because it is a foul even if it is rare that you see it happen.

Some actually believe that the appeal is about the closeness of the fight and only that.

No, most understand that Khan wasn't happy with the ref. He didn't like Washington. His changing room was too cold. His shower towel was the wrong color. They didn't provide him slippers in his hotel.

Etc etc etc.

Shoo

trottb wrote:

azania wrote: He's criticised for whining and moaning like a baby or little girl and for launching the appeal or not distancing himself from the appeal.

Isnt that the way he is coming across?

No. He's coming across like every other boxer I've heard of.

trottb wrote:The scorecards issue has already been addressed on here Az, something you tend to ignore. The only card we've been given proof of change is the master card and that simply looks like an administrative error as opposed to anything cynical.

Of course it has. Why now the need to employ highly paid lawyers. The IBF and WBA should just read these pages and save money.

He's coming across far far worse than the majority of boxers, his constant whining has gone to far as has your constant abuse of Coxy, grow up.

Constant abuse?

Az is a bit thick and doesn't have much to come back with so just resorts to "shoo".

Unless people here have been living in Fritzel's basement everyone has read/listened to/watched Khan moan about everything and anything. Not just the scoring but the ref and so forth.

And as a result we all think he's acting like a cry baby and Az doesn't get the point that although boxers will always complain Khan has well and truly taken the biscuit on this one.

coxy0001 wrote:Constant abuse?

Az is a bit thick and doesn't have much to come back with so just resorts to "shoo".

Unless people here have been living in Fritzel's basement everyone has read/listened to/watched Khan moan about everything and anything. Not just the scoring but the ref and so forth.

And as a result we all think he's acting like a cry baby and Az doesn't get the point that although boxers will always complain Khan has well and truly taken the biscuit on this one.

Or AzWorld.

manos de piedra wrote:

azania wrote:

manos de piedra wrote:Azania, I dont think anyone is criticising him for not accepting defeat. Nearly all boxers believe they won a close fight. But therein is the issue. Khan is screaming sheer bloody robbery as if the whole thing was a set up. His comments about boxing in Washington, about being robbed and so on go well above and beyond what the situation was. Look at Macklin and Murray. They both said they thought they won, both kind of insinuated that it was going to be tough to get a decision in Germany but they ultimately accepted it and got on with it and admitted the fights were close. Even Chisora and JMM who were well and truly shafted didnt kick up as big a fuss.

The other point in regards to the appeal, you may well be right in saying that its mainly GB who are driving it but do you think if this was another fighter they would not be getting stick for it? If Frochs promoter had tried to get the Kessler verdict overturned, Or Dirrell tried to get the Froch verdict overturned they would get a huge deal of stick for it. Its not unique to Khan. Pacquiao got tons of stick for saying he thought he beat JMM. Mayweather got tons of stick for his cheap shot at Ortiz. Haye got tons of stick for the toe incident. Khans reaction to losing a close fight has been way out of proportion and people think its a bit childish. I would imagine the same would happen to any top fighter who did the same thing. God forbid Pacquiao or Mayweather ever tried a similar stunt, the internet would probably freeze up.

He's criticised for whining and moaning like a baby or little girl and for launching the appeal or not distancing himself from the appeal.

Of course fighters would be getting stick, but imo their stick would be tampered with common sense as to who is actually behind it all.

Yes but you seem to suggesting that the stick is unique to Khan, as in there is an agenda against him personally. I see it as case that any top fighter in his spot would be getting stick.

I agree with you on the point regarding GBP, but Khan own personal response has been to insinuate an out and out robbery which I dont think is really the case.

In no way am I suggesting that it is unique to Khan. But the vitriol directed towards him seems excessive and far more than others have recieved.

As for the robbery case, I dont expect any boxer to say otherwise. In fact I dont know any boxer who has lost a very contentious decision to say differently given the circumstances.

azania wrote:

manos de piedra wrote:

azania wrote:

manos de piedra wrote:Azania, I dont think anyone is criticising him for not accepting defeat. Nearly all boxers believe they won a close fight. But therein is the issue. Khan is screaming sheer bloody robbery as if the whole thing was a set up. His comments about boxing in Washington, about being robbed and so on go well above and beyond what the situation was. Look at Macklin and Murray. They both said they thought they won, both kind of insinuated that it was going to be tough to get a decision in Germany but they ultimately accepted it and got on with it and admitted the fights were close. Even Chisora and JMM who were well and truly shafted didnt kick up as big a fuss.

The other point in regards to the appeal, you may well be right in saying that its mainly GB who are driving it but do you think if this was another fighter they would not be getting stick for it? If Frochs promoter had tried to get the Kessler verdict overturned, Or Dirrell tried to get the Froch verdict overturned they would get a huge deal of stick for it. Its not unique to Khan. Pacquiao got tons of stick for saying he thought he beat JMM. Mayweather got tons of stick for his cheap shot at Ortiz. Haye got tons of stick for the toe incident. Khans reaction to losing a close fight has been way out of proportion and people think its a bit childish. I would imagine the same would happen to any top fighter who did the same thing. God forbid Pacquiao or Mayweather ever tried a similar stunt, the internet would probably freeze up.

He's criticised for whining and moaning like a baby or little girl and for launching the appeal or not distancing himself from the appeal.

Of course fighters would be getting stick, but imo their stick would be tampered with common sense as to who is actually behind it all.

Yes but you seem to suggesting that the stick is unique to Khan, as in there is an agenda against him personally. I see it as case that any top fighter in his spot would be getting stick.

I agree with you on the point regarding GBP, but Khan own personal response has been to insinuate an out and out robbery which I dont think is really the case.

In no way am I suggesting that it is unique to Khan. But the vitriol directed towards him seems excessive and far more than others have recieved.

As for the robbery case, I dont expect any boxer to say otherwise. In fact I dont know any boxer who has lost a very contentious decision to say differently given the circumstances.

What other fighters have tried to get a close verdict overturned recently though?

I would bet my last pound that if Pacquiao or Mayweather tried a similar thing the abuse directed at them would if anything be bigger.

Theres a noteable difference between how the guys who have lost close fights recently have acted. They may maintain they won the fight but few of them have declared the fights set ups or robberies of the proportion Khan is making out.

If GBP had felt there was something up with cards a low key enquiry and investigation into the scorecards would have been more acceptable. Instead they are kicking up a storm and basically implying this fight was rigged both in and out of the ring. It hasnt been handled well at all and I think the stick Khan is getting is more or less proportianate to the fuss that he and GBP are causing over the fight.

If it were another big name fighter instead of Khan who were doing this I dont honestly think they would be getting an easier time over it.

Imperial Ghosty wrote:He's coming across far far worse than the majority of boxers, his constant whining has gone to far as has your constant abuse of Coxy, grow up.

Please use the foe option. I thought you liked it. And as for being a cry baby. Read your childish posts to manos. You cant tolerate an opinion that differs from yours. Now quit acting like an aged woman and develop a pair.

Cheers

[quote="azania"]

In no way am I suggesting that it is unique to Khan. But the vitriol directed towards him seems excessive and far more than others have recieved.

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Again another comment it is impossible to make because outside of Tyson some 20 odd years ago no other major fighter (to the best of my knowledge) has launched an appeal against a result.

coxy0001 wrote:Constant abuse?

Az is a bit thick and doesn't have much to come back with so just resorts to "shoo".

Unless people here have been living in Fritzel's basement everyone has read/listened to/watched Khan moan about everything and anything. Not just the scoring but the ref and so forth.

And as a result we all think he's acting like a cry baby and Az doesn't get the point that although boxers will always complain Khan has well and truly taken the biscuit on this one.

I'd rather not get into another nae calling session with your childish responses so I simply say "shoo".

Now shoo.

It has to be said that the waiting time for the results, crossing out of scores on the 7 round arousing suspicion. If they wanted to pulls strings for a home town decision, they could have done it a bit more efficiently!

So regardless of whether it was a close fight or not, if 8 out 10 people score the fight to khan, even with deductions (and in my eyes they have done) then the champion is entitled to an appeal.

That's the reason appeal procedures are in place. If something wrongly has occurred, despite the closeness of the fight, an appeal should be launched.

About time we stop just accepting boxing is dodgy and let justice run its course.

And again Az doesn't have a response to my points, obviously struggling with the main reason he's meant to be here for i.e. "debating"

coxy0001 wrote:And again Az doesn't have a response to my points, obviously struggling with the main reason he's meant to be here for i.e. "debating"

Put your points across in a mannered and less laddish style and you will get a response. But carry on in your attention seeking manner, all you will get is "shoo".

Now grow up or shoo.

Are you two seriously still potshotting at each other?

Fists of Fury wrote:Are you two seriously still potshotting at each other?

Nope. Its all one way traffic. I've said I wont debate with him unless he quits the provocation and insulting posts. Like a pre puberty boy he just doesn't listen.

azania wrote: Like a pre puberty boy he just doesn't listen.

Would ask how you are such an expert Az but am not sure I really want to know.

rowley wrote:

azania wrote: Like a pre puberty boy he just doesn't listen.

Would ask how you are such an expert Az but am not sure I really want to know.

Rowley 10129129 Azania 0

And Fists, when one makes a valid point i find it a bit of a joke that all he comes back with is "shoo". I'm just going to assume he knows i've shown him up and that he has nothing of note to come back with.

rowley wrote:

azania wrote: Like a pre puberty boy he just doesn't listen.

Would ask how you are such an expert Az but am not sure I really want to know.

I have kids who have passed puberty. Hence I know behaviour issues of pre puberty kids.

coxy0001 wrote:

rowley wrote:

azania wrote: Like a pre puberty boy he just doesn't listen.

Would ask how you are such an expert Az but am not sure I really want to know.

Rowley 10129129 Azania 0

And Fists, when one makes a valid point i find it a bit of a joke that all he comes back with is "shoo". I'm just going to assume he knows i've shown him up and that he has nothing of note to come back with.

And my response to rowley proven with the first line.

Point out the valid point and post it free from idiotic statements and insults. Then, only then will you get a full response. Otherwise, shoo.

Shown me up? You're having a laugh son.

You have your own eyes, but because you skim read (like the title of this thread i quoted from the article but you tried to pin on me) here are my points:

Unless people here have been living in Fritzel's basement everyone has read/listened to/watched Khan moan about everything and anything. Not just the scoring but the ref and so forth.

And as a result we all think he's acting like a cry baby and Az doesn't get the point that although boxers will always complain Khan has well and truly taken the biscuit on this one.

No, most understand that Khan wasn't happy with the ref. He didn't like Washington. His changing room was too cold. His shower towel was the wrong color. They didn't provide him slippers in his hotel. Etc etc

And it's not just me here Az, the entire board is pretty much disagreeing with you and generally debating/ridiculing your points.

Don't make me resort to the red pen guys, Joey's politely asked me to cut back.

Its a stimulating and engaging thread - but there's no need for you 2 to be whining at each other.

Coxy - if you want Az to respond to one of your points, please try to avoid littering it with insinuations about his intelligence.

Az, please try to engage with the debate rather than simply saying shoo.

coxy0001 wrote:You have your own eyes, but because you skim read (like the title of this thread i quoted from the article but you tried to pin on me) here are my points:

Unless people here have been living in Fritzel's basement everyone has read/listened to/watched Khan moan about everything and anything. Not just the scoring but the ref and so forth.

And as a result we all think he's acting like a cry baby and Az doesn't get the point that although boxers will always complain Khan has well and truly taken the biscuit on this one.

No, most understand that Khan wasn't happy with the ref. He didn't like Washington. His changing room was too cold. His shower towel was the wrong color. They didn't provide him slippers in his hotel. Etc etc

And it's not just me here Az, the entire board is pretty much disagreeing with you and generally debating/ridiculing your points.

All those points are simply rehashed points that I've already addressed. Noting new there. I suggest you read the thread before making any more so called points. Stop wasting your time lad. Go get some beers.

This thread should be renamed 'Az against the world'.

It can be used as a dumping ground for all future threads where everyone agrees on a subject matter except Az, bit like when we had 'Manny news' for D4.

Next week, 'The Sky is blue:Discuss'.

TopHat24/7 wrote:This thread should be renamed 'Az against the world'.

It can be used as a dumping ground for all future threads where everyone agrees on a subject matter except Az, bit like when we had 'Manny news' for D4.

Next week, 'The Sky is blue:Discuss'.

Brilliant. Post of the day.

And please no pedants pick me up on the sky not actually being blue but the colour being caused by the refraction of light through molecules in the air...

TopHat24/7 wrote:This thread should be renamed 'Az against the world'.

It can be used as a dumping ground for all future threads where everyone agrees on a subject matter except Az, bit like when we had 'Manny news' for D4.

Next week, 'The Sky is blue:Discuss'.

Ha. Nice one tophat. That made me laugh.

oxring wrote:Don't make me resort to the red pen guys, Joey's politely asked me to cut back.

Its a stimulating and engaging thread - but there's no need for you 2 to be whining at each other.

Coxy - if you want Az to respond to one of your points, please try to avoid littering it with insinuations about his intelligence.

Az, please try to engage with the debate rather than simply saying shoo.

Oxy, you and I go hammer and tongs. No quarter asked or given. You dont litter your posts with abuse and neither do I in response to yourself.

My 'shoo' responses to that boy will remain so long as he continues posting to me in the manner he does. I never instigate it either and never will. When that child decides to grow up then responses from em will continue.

Alternatively he has the foe option. Ghosty used that but obviously missed my wisdom.

You dont litter your posts with abuse and neither do I in response to yourself.

I never instigate it either and never will.

and then.....

When that child decides to grow

coxy0001 wrote:

You dont litter your posts with abuse and neither do I in response to yourself.

I never instigate it either and never will.

and then.....

When that child decides to grow

well done coxy. You spotted an insult. But when you start responding to my posts in a mannered way I will respond to you equally.

But that "child" comment was in a response to Ox.

Try harder son. And stay focussed ok boy?

oxring wrote:Don't make me resort to the red pen guys, Joey's politely asked me to cut back.

Sorry oxy, I asked you to cut back after you had already edited the nonsense out of the thread, so I didnt have all the facts. Also I was drunk and had not slept for 24 hours. Go crazy in the coconuts with the red pen.

rowley wrote:

azania wrote: Like a pre puberty boy he just doesn't listen.

Would ask how you are such an expert Az but am not sure I really want to know.

That is post of the day

joeyjojo618 wrote:

oxring wrote:Don't make me resort to the red pen guys, Joey's politely asked me to cut back.

Sorry oxy, I asked you to cut back after you had already edited the nonsense out of the thread, so I didnt have all the facts. Also I was drunk and had not slept for 24 hours. Go crazy in the coconuts with the red pen.

Lol - to be fair joey - I appreciated it as constructive.

Certain posters seem to only appreciate red pen or final warnings - and I would that were different.

Khan needs to forget about Mayweather who would school him and concentrate on a rematch with Peterson who he will beat imo. If that fight was anywhere else Khan would have won this is why he is appealing it was a home town decision. If he loses the appeal Peterson should give him a rematch in a neutral place and prove he can beat him fairly if Khan wins his appeal then he should fight Bradley or Brook which would be good fights.

Fists I think a post of the day thread in the boxing vault could be a good idea.

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Fists I think a post of the day thread in the boxing vault could be a good idea.

I may as well just put all mine straight in there then.

Waingro wrote:Khan needs to forget about Mayweather who would school him and concentrate on a rematch with Peterson who he will beat imo. If that fight was anywhere else Khan would have won this is why he is appealing it was a home town decision. If he loses the appeal Peterson should give him a rematch in a neutral place and prove he can beat him fairly if Khan wins his appeal then he should fight Bradley or Brook which would be good fights.

Love sacks.

Helenius-Chisora was a home town decision.

This was not a home town decision. It was a close fight, Peterson edged it with the points deductions - and for these - 1-they wouldn't have been required had Khan a semblance of an inside game and 2-Khan was repeatedly warned in advance of the deductions.

oxring wrote:

Waingro wrote:Khan needs to forget about Mayweather who would school him and concentrate on a rematch with Peterson who he will beat imo. If that fight was anywhere else Khan would have won this is why he is appealing it was a home town decision. If he loses the appeal Peterson should give him a rematch in a neutral place and prove he can beat him fairly if Khan wins his appeal then he should fight Bradley or Brook which would be good fights.

Love sacks.

Helenius-Chisora was a home town decision.

This was not a home town decision. It was a close fight, Peterson edged it with the points deductions - and for these - 1-they wouldn't have been required had Khan a semblance of an inside game and 2-Khan was repeatedly warned in advance of the deductions.

Mate this was in Petersons home town lets be honest if this was in Britain would Peterson have won?? I dont think he would have the ref deducted two points off Khan if this fight was anywhere else Khan would still be champ that is why it is a home town decision. Tbh it was mostly Khans fault for agreeing to fight there look at why there has been no big time boxing in washington d.c?? Khan needed a knock out to be sure of winning there I reckon he underestimated Peterson an was thinking about a fight with Mayweather he thought Peterson would be easy and that is why he agreed to fight in washington.

Man, is this still going on?

I must say Az, your level of stubbornness on this issue is actually quite impressive.

Some of you that are moaning about Khan must have lost some brass , but one person in particular must have put his mortgage on Khan.

Waingro if it was Khans fault for agreeing to fight in DC why even bring the Britain scenario into equation and mention points deductions? Bottom line is Khan is badly managed and he seriously needs to fix up as this ranting is really embarrassing. When Hopkins drew with Pascal, Hopkins didn't throw rants to the media! he just accepted he got robbed and earned the rematch to prove his point. Theirs a difference in accepting defeat 'which neither Khan or Hopkins did' and a difference in accepting u got robbed 'Khan till this day cant accept he got robbed yet Hopkins accepted he got robbed'.