Springboks vs England, squad announcements and matchday thread.

by **Biltong** Wed 06 Jun 2012, 11:53 am

First topic message reminder :

I will update as more information is released.

Springbok team announced for the first test vs England.

15 Zane Kirchner, caps 14
14 JP Pietersen, caps 42
13 Jean de Villiers (captain), caps 72
12 Frans Steyn, caps 47
11 Bryan Habana, caps 74
10 Morné Steyn, caps 34
9 Francois Hougaard, caps 15
8 Pierre Spies, caps 47
7 Willem Alberts, caps 9
6 Marcell Coetzee, caps 0
5 Juandré Kruger, caps 0
4 Eben Etzebeth, caps 0
3 Jannie du Plessis, caps 30
2 Bismarck du Plessis, caps 42
1 Beast Mtawarira, caps 32

Replacements:
16 Adriaan Strauss, caps 9
17 Coenie Oosthuizen, caps 0
18 Flip van der Merwe, caps 11
19 Keegan Daniel, caps 1
20 Ruan Pienaar, caps 51
21 Pat Lambie, caps 11
22 Wynand Olivier, caps 34

I am surprised and happy to see Eben etzebeth in the starting XV and Strauss on the bench, Meyer has gone for a 4-3 split on the bench which is interesting. The pack has 160 combined caps with 4 debutants, the back line has a combined cap of 302 caps.

I am actually rather impressed with Meyer's selections. The English may see this pack as vulnerable and inexperienced, but I think it is a rather exciting pack. full of mobility and physicality.

England Team:

15 Mike Brown, caps 3
14 Chris Ashton, caps 23
13 Manusamoa Tuilagi, caps 10
12 Brad Barritt, caps 5
11 Ben Foden, caps 26
10 Owen Farrell, caps 5
9 Ben Youngs, caps 17
8 Ben Morgan, caps 5
7 Chris Robshaw (C), caps 6
6 Tom Johnson, 0 caps
5 Geoff Parling, 2 caps
4 Mouritz Botha, 6 caps
3 Dan Cole, 25 caps
2 Dylan Hartley, 34 caps
1 Joe Marler, 0 caps

Replacements:
16 Lee Mears, 38 caps
17 Paul Doran Jones, 3 caps
18 Tom Palmer, 37 caps
19 Phil Dowson, 5 caps
20 Lee Dickson, 0 caps
21 Toby Flood, 46 caps
22 Jonathan Joseph, 0 caps

by nathan Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:21 pm

are you allowed to run into a tackle with your shoulder?

by anotherworldofpain Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:22 pm

ENgland are going to steal this and SA will regret not take the kick at goal. Wink

Irony.

by nathan Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:23 pm

Is Farrell playing at 12? he seem's to be missing a fair few tackles.

by doctor_grey Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:23 pm

Flood and Farrell at the same time makes the midfield defense weak. WHY?????????

by ChequeredJersey Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:23 pm

welshy6 wrote:barrits off after one tackle? crikey, ah well will allow england a more attacking midfield. now use tuilagi as a dummy and get ashton into space. (god i should be a coach, and why am i giving england advice??)

otherwise let ashton run at the SA backrow, i would enjoy that!

ah checkered, i havent really noticed him, he is more of a 6 than a 7 tbh. good leader though considering small no. of caps

Whilst I agree, somebody has to make the turnovers and that's what Robshaw was doing

by Shifty Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:23 pm

CurlyOsp wrote:why do Sky always pan across the crowd when something interesting happens on the pitch?

The Russian and Italian game camera crew had the right idea, I could talk about the highlights of that match and post a whole thread of hot women featured in the crowd!

by Morgannwg Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:24 pm

That was pretty good from SA...

by anotherworldofpain Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:24 pm

anotherworldofpain wrote:ENgland are going to steal this and SA will regret not take the kick at goal. Irony.

Or no.

by wales606 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:24 pm

Try JdV

16 - 6

by nathan Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:24 pm

Good try SA!

by welshy6 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:24 pm

i doubt it AWOp, england defence good but not offering much in attack, need to get tuilagi, brown etc into some space.

i just think SA will step up another gear, and they have a much stronger bench than england

haha what a try, tried to jonah Lomu Brown but still gets over,

by maestegmafia Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:25 pm

Boks really exploiting England's ten channel now. Pack bullying England all over the park...

England really need to up the level now, hold on to possession through a few phases..

by **rodders** Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:25 pm

Nice work from Habana there in the build up.... England being out muscled now.

by nathan Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:25 pm

sorry to say this SA fans, but your team has some dirty players. What the hell was the number 5 doing at the end of that try?

by stormers1 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:25 pm

great try, that's what happens when you pass the ball

by anotherworldofpain Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:25 pm

Brown revolver door defending there! Just went straight through him.

by wales606 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:25 pm

Another miss from Steyn

2 from 5

Maybe Frans should be kicking.

by Hood83 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:26 pm

Saffa boringly predictable. England, predictably not good enough.

Farrell is not international quality. Sadly, it looks like this England team is way way off SH standards.

Right, i'm on to the footie.

by wales606 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:26 pm

Foden almost in straight from the restart.

by wales606 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:27 pm

Habana and Frans just smashed into each other.

Thats one way to take out SA's creative backs...

by Morgannwg Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:27 pm

They took the kicking duties away from Frans a while ago because he was drop-kicking at goal from his own 22.

by nathan Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:27 pm

SA showing that power by taking out there own players. More of that please, we have a chance!

by welshy6 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:28 pm

Hood83 wrote:Saffa boringly predictable. England, predictably not good enough.

Farrell is not international quality. Sadly, it looks like this England team is way way off SH standards.

Right, i'm on to the footie.

i dont know how you can say that, they are chucking the ball about a fair bit considering its SA

have to say habana is back on form now, great work effort around the park.
and he crunched ashton boxing

by nathan Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:29 pm

grrrr, another useless kcik

by doctor_grey Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:29 pm

Hood83 wrote:Saffa boringly predictable. England, predictably not good enough.

Farrell is not international quality. Sadly, it looks like this England team is way way off SH standards.

Right, i'm on to the footie.

Well, go watch soccer. England are within a hair and are still in it. Let's see what happens......

by maestegmafia Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:29 pm

Much better. They are back in this now.

by Morgannwg Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:29 pm

Yeah I would disagree with what's being said about Farrell too.

by EnglishReign Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:30 pm

Hope we can get back into this. So dirty, SA.

by Mad for Chelsea Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:30 pm

lovely strike from Farell, England back to within four points...

by nathan Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:30 pm

welshy6 wrote:
Hood83 wrote:Saffa boringly predictable. England, predictably not good enough.

Farrell is not international quality. Sadly, it looks like this England team is way way off SH standards.

Right, i'm on to the footie.

i dont know how you can say that, they are chucking the ball about a fair bit considering its SA

have to say habana is back on form now, great work effort around the park.
and he crunched ashton

completely agree with you about habana, he seem's to just glide through the defence.

can't agree with you about the aston thing lol

by wales606 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:30 pm

Steyn may well regret missing those kicks - thats his job afterall.

16 - 12

by **Biltong** Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:31 pm

nathan wrote:sorry to say this SA fans, but your team has some dirty players. What the hell was the number 5 doing at the end of that try?

he tried to help de Villiers to get the ball down, mate, watch it again

by **rodders** Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:31 pm

England showing good character here.... yer man Robshaws played well.

by doctor_grey Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:31 pm

Boks are physical. Haven't see the dirty.

by wales606 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:31 pm

That not nice calling him a front-row cheater...oh wait, Cheetah - thats an unfortunately named team.

by captainrapido Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:32 pm

Youngs to work on his box kicking.

by maestegmafia Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:32 pm

Bok should have asked the other Steyn to kick.

by **rodders** Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:32 pm

I

you Ruan..... oops sorry did I day that out loud? Whistle

.....

by wales606 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:32 pm

doctor_grey wrote:Boks are physical. Haven't see the dirty.

Havent you heard? All Springboks are dirty filthy cheaters, all All Blacks are chokers, all the French are inconsistent and all the English are arrogant...

by nathan Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:33 pm

doctor_grey wrote:Boks are physical. Haven't see the dirty.

nothing really bad, just a few niggles with i suppose isnt that bad.

by wales606 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:33 pm

rodders wrote:I you Ruan..... oops sorry did I day that out loud? .....

by doctor_grey Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:33 pm

Big penalty to concede. But Stevie is giving very, very long advantage.

by Morgannwg Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:34 pm

The 5 was a bit argie bargie with Owen Farrell during that incident. Some of the England forwards need to toughen up and look out for each other. We were always taught to hit a guy back if he hits you, and the valley teams really don't like the townsfolk and city slickers, naturally there is a fair bit of argie bargie in the younger age grades.

by wales606 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:34 pm

Finally...Morne has remembered how to kick

19 - 12

by doctor_grey Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:34 pm

Dumb grubber

by doctor_grey Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:34 pm

I want jonny back............................................

by wales606 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:35 pm

doctor_grey wrote:I want jonny back............................................

Inverdale?

by captainrapido Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:35 pm

Hideous time wasting.

by Morgannwg Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:36 pm

Tuilagi the smasher.

by doctor_grey Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:36 pm

wales606 wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:I want jonny back............................................

Inverdale?

You want him too!!!!!!!!!!!

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