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Post by RDW Wed 19 Dec 2012, 1:43 pm

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The 1872 Cup: Friday 21 August (kick-off 7.35pm) – live on BBC ALBA

Edinburgh Yahoo

15 Greig Tonks

14 Lee Jones
13 Matt Scott
12 James King
11 Tim Visser

10 Piers Francis
9 Greig Laidlaw CAPTAIN

1 Allan Jacobsen
2 Ross Ford
3 Willem Nel
4 Grant Gilchrist
5 Izak van der Westhuizen
6 David Denton
7 Roddy Grant
8 Stuart McInally

Substitutes
16 Andy Titterrell
17 John Yapp
18 Geoff Cross
19 Sean Cox
20 Netani Talei
21 Richie Rees
22 Ben Atiga
23 Dougie Fife

Glasgow boxing

1 Grant
2 MacArthur
3 Low
4 Kellock
5 Swinson
6 Harley
7 Fusaro
8 Wilson

9 Niko
10 Jackson
11 DTH
12 Horne
13 Lamont
14 Maitland
15 Murchie

16 Hall
17 Reid
18 Araoz
19 Gray
20 Eddie
21 Pyrgos
22 Weir
23 Hogg

Glasgow have won the cup 3 years in a row - can Edinburgh reverse the tide? Current form suggests no, but with this being the only thing left in the season to play for there's always a chance. Glasgow need wins to keep momentum in the Rabbo, and Edinburgh can overtake Glasgow in the league if they win both legs (unlikely).

Bring it on!!!!!


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Post by tigertattie Fri 21 Dec 2012, 7:57 pm

That should not have been a try. Should have been a penas to burgh
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Post by RDW Fri 21 Dec 2012, 7:57 pm

Right Edinburgh - just get Lamont down, and sub Lee Jones off immediately!

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Post by RDW Fri 21 Dec 2012, 8:01 pm

Maitland should have done much better there! Great defence from Laidlaw to come back and get him though - glad someone careS!

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Post by Scot Abroad Fri 21 Dec 2012, 8:03 pm

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Post by RDW Fri 21 Dec 2012, 8:05 pm

On a side note, don't see why the weedge slag Edinburgh off for the lack of atmosphere at Murrayfield - it's hardly partisan at Scotstoun!

Really need to try to get some points - don't want Glasgow running away with it

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Post by RDW Fri 21 Dec 2012, 8:05 pm

picard Spoke too soon

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Post by tigertattie Fri 21 Dec 2012, 8:12 pm

Silly. I'm not even bothered anymore. Good luck Glasgow
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Post by RDW Fri 21 Dec 2012, 8:13 pm

I think countryfile might be coming on soon...

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Post by tigertattie Fri 21 Dec 2012, 8:14 pm

I don't speak much Gaelic so I'm listening to bbc Scotland's commentary. Peter wright is quality. "That's a rubbish decision, I'm away to have a word with the linesman."
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Post by RDW Fri 21 Dec 2012, 8:15 pm

Wright is very good banter, I just get annoyed at the time lag between radio and TV!

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Post by RDW Fri 21 Dec 2012, 8:18 pm

I despair if Jackson really does stand a chance of being the 10 against England

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Post by tigertattie Fri 21 Dec 2012, 8:21 pm

Wright and chalmers are like the two old boys AT&T local club. "Ach eejit, what you doing that for"

That's commentary you just won't hear on bbc1
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Post by reallybored Fri 21 Dec 2012, 8:24 pm

Awesome from Ryan Grant, he's been Scotland's most consistent player for the last 6 months.

Glasgow have so much more threat than Edinburgh out wide, plus Matawalu is a constant nuisance.

Edinburgh look clueless.

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Post by RDW Fri 21 Dec 2012, 8:26 pm

Edinburgh look like they'll never score a try! Clueless in attack, no invention, attacking in ones and two's not as a coherent team.

Awful.

Credit to Glasgow though - they took their chances well and looked dangerous in attack.

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Post by tigertattie Fri 21 Dec 2012, 8:29 pm

Glasgow's 9 is handy. Will prygos need to move club if he wants more Scotland caps?
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Post by Imperialbigdave Fri 21 Dec 2012, 8:33 pm

How does Lee Jones continually get a game?

Surely he recognises that he is so bad at tackling, its not funny. If he does realise this, why doesnt he work to remedy it? If he isnt working to remedy it, he is a disgrace to the title of a professional. If he doesnt realise that he is 9 times out of 10 the person who makes the missed tackle that leads to a try, why is no one telling him?

Im just waiting for the next round of player interviews in the scotsman where the players imply that were bad fans for criticising them. Im sorry, if were paying £25 to watch you on a freezy night, you are dam well answerable to us for the unprofessional attitude you show to your job. There ive said. I am calling into question a large portion of our squads commitment and attitude. Its been the elephant in the room for far too long. They think they are above criticism from plebs like us. Weve never played at their level, so our opinion is worthless. Ive had it with these guys. They are an embarrasment to our club, our city, and our country. Im seriously considering not coming back, and ive got a season ticket.

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Post by RDW Fri 21 Dec 2012, 8:39 pm

Well said big Dave.

Think it's fair to say we need to score first...

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Post by RDW Fri 21 Dec 2012, 8:46 pm

This ref must know nothing about scrums - he's penalising Grant over Nel??

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Post by GLove39 Fri 21 Dec 2012, 8:48 pm

Game turned on its head, Edinburgh back to within 6

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Post by RDW Fri 21 Dec 2012, 8:50 pm

Wouldn't quite say it is in the head turning category yet - this is Edinburgh remember!

Nice try though

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Post by RDW Fri 21 Dec 2012, 8:52 pm

Bonus for Edinburgh - Jackson is now kicker!

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Post by Imperialbigdave Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:00 pm

how many times is Harley going to be penalised before a card gets shown?
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Post by RDW Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:00 pm

Blow for Edinburgh - Jackson has gone off!

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Post by RDW Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:07 pm

This 2nd half has been terrible.

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Post by Majestic83 Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:08 pm

Great play a minute ago by Grant Gilchrist boshing Al Kellock and then ripping the ball of him mid tackle. Gilchrist looks like he is turning into a pretty tough and rugged 2nd row.

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Post by Imperialbigdave Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:11 pm

LEE JONES> urine OFF.
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Post by Majestic83 Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:11 pm

Lee Jones having a nightmare yet again, reminds me off the drop from last years game at Murrayfield!

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Post by RDW Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:12 pm

can we please terminate Lee Jones' contract with immediate effect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by Imperialbigdave Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:13 pm

He has a nightmare every game
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Post by Majestic83 Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:13 pm

how he was ever capped by scotland is a mystery to me!! Yet alone getting game time for Edinburgh!!

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Post by Imperialbigdave Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:15 pm

well done laidlaw. again though, lee jones. Why has he not been subbed?!?!?! Does Bradley fancy him or something. He is the worst player ever to play for us.
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Post by tigertattie Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:16 pm

Send jones back to Selkirk right now. He is woeful
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Post by RDW Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:16 pm

Laidlaw has got us out of jail so many times this game.

If only we had 15 Laidlaws! Of different sizes of course...

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Post by Majestic83 Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:17 pm

interesting to see how johnny gray does in the few mins he is on!

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Post by Imperialbigdave Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:19 pm

Why dont we just get the ball out of the scrum asap?!?!?! When youve been getting mullered all night, i just dont understand why you wouldnt clear it out as quickly as possible?
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Post by Imperialbigdave Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:20 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Laidlaw has got us out of jail so many times this game.

If only we had 15 Laidlaws! Of different sizes of course...

Hear Hear!

Hes been the only player who actually looks like he gives a toss.
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Post by RDW Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:21 pm

I wouldn't say the scrum has been mullered - they've had the upper hand but has been a lot better than I was expecting!

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Post by Majestic83 Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:22 pm

Imperialbigdave wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:Laidlaw has got us out of jail so many times this game.

If only we had 15 Laidlaws! Of different sizes of course...

Hear Hear!

Hes been the only player who actually looks like he gives a toss.

I'd disagree, I've been impressed with Grant Gilchrist, he has looked up for it and done a lot of the unnoticed work tonight in and around the rucks and mauls and made a lot of tackles!

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Post by RDW Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:23 pm

Yeah Gilchrist has been good.

When will Edinburgh learn - we have scored 11 to their 6 this half, just a shame that we lost 3 tries in the first half!


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Post by Majestic83 Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:25 pm

Yeah 2nd half we have looked better and more up for it, 1st half we seemed really sluggish and the backs seemed to have really heavy legs.
Possible being overtrained in the warm up?

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Post by RDW Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:29 pm

Well that was an awful spectacle!

Credit to Glasgow for 3 well taken tries but the game was just crap after that. I feared a cricket score but Glasgow seemed to play like they'd already done enough and were content with the win and luckily Edinburgh picked it up to make it competitive.

Very poor game, bye bye Bradley, and take Lee Jones with you!

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Post by Scot Abroad Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:30 pm

Majestic83 wrote:Yeah 2nd half we have looked better and more up for it, 1st half we seemed really sluggish and the backs seemed to have really heavy legs.
Possible being overtrained in the warm up?

Doubt they would be overtrained in the warm up, more likely the pitch cutting up meant the players were getting tired quicker.

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Post by Majestic83 Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:31 pm

Stand out players for me
Glasgow
Pat McArthur Good in the loose, lineout throwing seemed good.
Rob Harley Great in defence, did a lot of work at the rucks and maul
Niko Matawalu looked dangerous all the time.
Sean Maitland had a few great breaks and looked to get involved with some neat passes.
DTH great finishing and looked busy.

For Edinburgh
Greg Laidlaw looked busy at 9, tried to get the back line moving. great cover in defence, has to be scotland 9
Grant Gilchrist looked tough and rugged in 2nd row, destroyed kellock in one tackle.
Matt Scott Couple good breaks, looked solid in defence. Better position is 12 or 10 though
Edinburgh front row at the scrum!

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Post by RDW Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:31 pm

Have to say the mouth watering match up of Visser V Maitland was an absolute non event.

Neither player looked interested all game, in fact can't even remember them getting the ball. Hopefully we will see more next week.

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Post by Majestic83 Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:33 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Have to say the mouth watering match up of Visser V Maitland was an absolute non event.

Neither player looked interested all game, in fact can't even remember them getting the ball. Hopefully we will see more next week.

Disagree about Maitland, he was hungry for work, had a few good breaks in first half and gave the scoring pass for DTH's 2nd try. 2nd half didn't see ball out wide but came off his wing alot.
Visser on the otherhand was known existent today, looked uninterested.

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Post by RDW Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:35 pm

Maitland was better than Visser granted, but still think he didn't do much. Didn't see those breaks you were talking about!

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Post by Majestic83 Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:37 pm

There was one about 10 mins into the first half and then another just before the 25 min mark I think it was. He carried quite a few metres taking the ball close to the ruck area. I was quite impressed by him considering the pitch conditions tonight!

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Post by RDW Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:38 pm

And it wasn't exactly a game for wingers granted....

What makes things worse is that the weedge will soon be on here to gloat! picard

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Post by Majestic83 Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:40 pm

haha true, can we not suspend the thread before they come on.
Have to say I'm worried about next weeks game on the bigger pitch at murrayfield, DTH and Maitland could be really dangerous on the wide and better pitch.

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Post by reallybored Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:41 pm

Glasgow should have brought Weir on sooner, kicked the game beyond Edinburgh then go for the bonus point.

Hogg looks like he's lost a yard of pace, not back at 100% or bulked up too quickly?

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