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Tyson Fury embarrassing himself by calling out UFC HW Champion Cain Velazquez
Some boxers should really be banned from Twitter!
A few years ago James Toney declared he could clean out the UFC by outboxing MMA fighters under their own rules, only to be pummeled by an old Randy Couture in 3 mins. Now Tyson Fury is at it. Only this time he's calling out the newly crowned, in his prime, HW champion Cain Velazquez:
http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/1/4/3832344/morning-report-ufc-undefeated-heavyweight-boxer-tyson-fury-challenges-cain-velasquez-mma-fight
I thought people had realised the difference between the 2 sports and the skillsets involved, and am very surprised that Fury would be so silly as to bring this up. Under MMA rules this would be the most embarrassing of mismatches.
A few years ago James Toney declared he could clean out the UFC by outboxing MMA fighters under their own rules, only to be pummeled by an old Randy Couture in 3 mins. Now Tyson Fury is at it. Only this time he's calling out the newly crowned, in his prime, HW champion Cain Velazquez:
http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/1/4/3832344/morning-report-ufc-undefeated-heavyweight-boxer-tyson-fury-challenges-cain-velasquez-mma-fight
I thought people had realised the difference between the 2 sports and the skillsets involved, and am very surprised that Fury would be so silly as to bring this up. Under MMA rules this would be the most embarrassing of mismatches.
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If we had a vault for the most stupid quotes in boxing history, then I suspect Mr Fury would need his own mini-section by the time his career is done.
Mind you, his Dad did say that Fury would have "boxed George Foreman's ears off." As well as being a greater fighter, maybe Fury is trying to prove that he's a greater nonsense talker than Big George as well?
George Foreman, opening seconds of the Roy Jones-John Ruiz fight: "The referee is the most important person inside the ring apart from the fighters tonight."
Mind you, his Dad did say that Fury would have "boxed George Foreman's ears off." As well as being a greater fighter, maybe Fury is trying to prove that he's a greater nonsense talker than Big George as well?
George Foreman, opening seconds of the Roy Jones-John Ruiz fight: "The referee is the most important person inside the ring apart from the fighters tonight."
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George Foreman, opening seconds of the Roy Jones-John Ruiz fight: "The referee is the most important person inside the ring apart from the fighters tonight."
Interviewer to Frank Bruno "Outside of boxing who has been the biggest influence on you?"
Frank "Joe Louis"
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Ah yes, good ol' Frank. Who could forget that delightful one when he was interviewed at ringside on the night of the Haye-Harrison 'fight'?
Adam Smith: "So Frank, who takes this one?"
Frank: "David Haye."
Adam Smith: "So you don't fancy Harrison at all then?"
Frank: "Well no, because I'm not gay!"
Adam Smith: "So Frank, who takes this one?"
Frank: "David Haye."
Adam Smith: "So you don't fancy Harrison at all then?"
Frank: "Well no, because I'm not gay!"
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I dont think Fury cares much about credibility but this kind of thing is good publicity for him and opens him up to the MMA fans and the U.S. I dont think hes as good as Price but he is really starting to pull away in terms of recognition. Price could end up having to take longer, harder and more dangerous road for smaller purses while Fury gets the big bucks and opportunies galore.
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Well said manos. People criticise Fury, but the point is (and he os making it brilliantly) people are talking about him. Who outside of his front room and perhaps his bedroom knows who Price is? The guy is not a household name in his own household.
The way some of you want boxers to be like would make boxing an even more marginal sport.
The way some of you want boxers to be like would make boxing an even more marginal sport.
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Good to see you back Az (words I never thought I would say ) and I agree - Tyson is an idiot with his comments but at least he is funny with it. David Haye is just an idiot!
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Adam D wrote:Good to see you back Az (words I never thought I would say ) and I agree - Tyson is an idiot with his comments but at least he is funny with it. David Haye is just an idiot!
Unless you're exceptional (which Price is far from) you will not get noticed. Say a few controversial things and your earnings and recognition increases.
I'm like that bad smell you can't get rid of
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azania wrote:Adam D wrote:Good to see you back Az (words I never thought I would say ) and I agree - Tyson is an idiot with his comments but at least he is funny with it. David Haye is just an idiot!
Unless you're exceptional (which Price is far from) you will not get noticed. Say a few controversial things and your earnings and recognition increases.
I'm like that bad smell you can't get rid of
Nice try - but you cant fool us by squeezing the word like in there
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azania wrote:Well said manos. People criticise Fury, but the point is (and he os making it brilliantly) people are talking about him. Who outside of his front room and perhaps his bedroom knows who Price is? The guy is not a household name in his own household.
The way some of you want boxers to be like would make boxing an even more marginal sport.
Yep, this is a really valid point. It's just a bit cringe-worthy to see such nonsense written Fury (in semi-legible twitter gibberish). I'm all for trash talking and build up, but Fury has strayed in to ridiculous territory here.
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Let's be realistic.....If your Dad calls you Tyson...you're hardly going to come from a family with much in the brain department are you???
He's thick......end of.
He's thick......end of.
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Well his middle name is Tyson but I find him fairly irritating and despite his mouth isn't exactly setting himself aside from Price thanks mainly to his avoidance of the liverpudlian.
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Has that thick gormless look...though
handed down from generations of morons who no doubt went in bars either looking for trouble or looking for unlicensed fights for no money in fields..
We can't expect too much from him..
handed down from generations of morons who no doubt went in bars either looking for trouble or looking for unlicensed fights for no money in fields..
We can't expect too much from him..
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Re: Tyson Fury embarrassing himself by calling out UFC HW Champion Cain Velazquez
Having watched Velasquez beat up Dos Santos I can see why Fury called him out. Cain cracked Junior on the chin in the first round and the fight would have been over if he knew how to finish a fight. Even a fighter like Fury would have cleaned Dos Santos's clock inside the next five minutes but no, Cain proceeded to drag this out for another 20 minutes and even let Dos Santos back into the fight in the last round.
All Fury's done is highlight how woefully inadequate MMA fighters are when it comes to boxing (something we already knew)
All Fury's done is highlight how woefully inadequate MMA fighters are when it comes to boxing (something we already knew)
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If we already know then he's a dumbass for telling us isn't he??
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Boxtthis wrote:azania wrote:Well said manos. People criticise Fury, but the point is (and he os making it brilliantly) people are talking about him. Who outside of his front room and perhaps his bedroom knows who Price is? The guy is not a household name in his own household.
The way some of you want boxers to be like would make boxing an even more marginal sport.
Yep, this is a really valid point. It's just a bit cringe-worthy to see such nonsense written Fury (in semi-legible twitter gibberish). I'm all for trash talking and build up, but Fury has strayed in to ridiculous territory here.
Depends where you draw the line between cringe-worthy and hilarious guff.
But many boxers including Floyd, RJJ and Hop have said similar things. I dare say many more other than the more familiar ones have also. Just because its Fury it becomes cringe worthy. Cut the kid some slack. He takes punches in the head for a living. He's hardly going to come out questioning the theory of relativity.
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Imperial Ghosty wrote:Well his middle name is Tyson but I find him fairly irritating and despite his mouth isn't exactly setting himself aside from Price thanks mainly to his avoidance of the liverpudlian.
Price would be more anonymous were it not for Fury. After they fight, Price should donate half his purse to Fury because were it not for Fury Price would be fighting for a monthly Oyster card. And no, Fury did not duck. Neither did Price.
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Think the heavyweight division is so poor.That Price doesn't need Fury.....
Think Fury needs Price more because his style sucks..
Think Fury needs Price more because his style sucks..
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They need each other. Fury is ahead of Price in name recognition and ranking. Price needs him more. But a fight between the pair will be huge hence they need one another. Fury via KO due to a stern gaze at Price's chin.
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They don't need eachother...........otherwise they wouldn't be headlining shows on SKY and CH 5........
They are good quality heavyweights....not bad looking and White.....
they've got it all.......
They are good quality heavyweights....not bad looking and White.....
they've got it all.......
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Whatever.....jackass.
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Mods, do I have to tolerate this nonsense??
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You're looking for things again..why are you sensitive!!
White fighters sell beter than black it's a proven fact....
Just grow up...
White fighters sell beter than black it's a proven fact....
Just grow up...
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Of course its a proven fact. More so in USA where such nonsense has a greater significance than in a civilised nation like this.
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So why are crying to the mods then..................
my favorite fighters are Don Curry and Larry Holmes who should have earned more than Cooney types..
Curry didn't!!
Fact is color and looks still sell which is why I'm saying they don't need to fight eachother ....
sad but true Mate...
my favorite fighters are Don Curry and Larry Holmes who should have earned more than Cooney types..
Curry didn't!!
Fact is color and looks still sell which is why I'm saying they don't need to fight eachother ....
sad but true Mate...
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Its a proven fact that HWs generally earn more than others. Cooney and Holmes got parity in purse. Take a guess why.
It happens more in USA where trivia like looks and ethnicity determine your earning. Hopefully it will remain in that culturally backwater nation.
Anyway, I've had enough of your goading ramblings. Take a long walk and cool down.
It happens more in USA where trivia like looks and ethnicity determine your earning. Hopefully it will remain in that culturally backwater nation.
Anyway, I've had enough of your goading ramblings. Take a long walk and cool down.
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Never said America was perfect...............
Not goading...You're just over sensitive........and bitter for some reason...
get over it..they aren't pleasant traits!!
Not goading...You're just over sensitive........and bitter for some reason...
get over it..they aren't pleasant traits!!
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Not bitter or sensitive bubba. Just saying it as it is. But you got some serious comprehension issues. I presume you also believed Iraq had WMDs....and there's a muslim under every bed.
Anyway, have fun mate. I see why jabmachine sees you as a knob.
Anyway, have fun mate. I see why jabmachine sees you as a knob.
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azania wrote:Not bitter or sensitive bubba. Just saying it as it is. But you got some serious comprehension issues. I presume you also believed Iraq had WMDs....and there's a muslim under every bed.
Anyway, have fun mate. I see why jabmachine sees you as a knob.
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A big twelve inch knob!!
That's hurtful....I thought jabmachine loved me......
Cheer up Az!!!!!
That's hurtful....I thought jabmachine loved me......
Cheer up Az!!!!!
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Fury is a joke who needs to learn to shut his mouth.
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And become anonymous? If boxing were to make the back pages it will take characters like Fury to get it there. Lets face it, talent is in very short supply. How many column inches does Froch make after a fight? I reckon if Fury wins a major belt he would be plastered on every back page and be invited to various chat shows.
Controversy (in his case stupidity) sells. Not everyone is a boxing buff.
Controversy (in his case stupidity) sells. Not everyone is a boxing buff.
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If Fury wins a major title then it just goes to show how the awful the division is, he sure as hell won't win won on merit. His controversy sells so well he's stuck on channel 5 fighting nobodies, it's not as though he's a big name outside of boxing circles.
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Like to see evidence that fury saying stupid things... sells............
I don't buy it...
Price sells as much as Fury and he's a good boy..
I don't buy it...
Price sells as much as Fury and he's a good boy..
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Imperial Ghosty wrote:If Fury wins a major title then it just goes to show how the awful the division is, he sure as hell won't win won on merit. His controversy sells so well he's stuck on channel 5 fighting nobodies, it's not as though he's a big name outside of boxing circles.
I did say talent was in short supply. Its better being on C5 than on boxnation I reckon.
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Agreed........I think Warren will have trouble when his stable comes to the same conclusion..
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Like to see evidence that fury saying stupid things... sells............
I don't buy it...
Price sells as much as Fury and he's a good boy..
Boxing fans talking about him probably gives the impression he's bigger than he actually is, how often is he actually on the sports pages or any form of national media, it's exclusively boxing fans posting links to fan sites, forums and his twitter.
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About 2 million in the red are boxnation
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Imperial Ghosty wrote:TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Like to see evidence that fury saying stupid things... sells............
I don't buy it...
Price sells as much as Fury and he's a good boy..
Boxing fans talking about him probably gives the impression he's bigger than he actually is, how often is he actually on the sports pages or any form of national media, it's exclusively boxing fans posting links to fan sites, forums and his twitter.
Perhaps, but I reckon he still has more interest than Price.
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Imperial Ghosty wrote:If Fury wins a major title then it just goes to show how the awful the division is, he sure as hell won't win won on merit. His controversy sells so well he's stuck on channel 5 fighting nobodies, it's not as though he's a big name outside of boxing circles.
Just a quick question about "being stuck on channel 5" comment - why is it a bad thing?
I would have thought that having your fights on terrestrial tv would be a good thing for a boxers brand, even if it is C5!
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Everything about boxing on Channel 5 is awful, the punditry, the studio guests, the quality, it doesn't really have any good qualities.
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"If the klitchkos r 2 much of [expletive] to fight me then I'll go & fight the MMA heavyweight champ at least he is game. Wouldn't last 2 rounds! ... Cain valasquez is a little midget on steds bring it on I'll fight. Not a man born from his mother can beat me! Contact Hennessy sports! ... I'm the new baddest man on the planet I'll smash @cainmma. Let's get it on
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Imperial Ghosty wrote:Everything about boxing on Channel 5 is awful, the punditry, the studio guests, the quality, it doesn't really have any good qualities.
Except for the viewing figures. I reckon they'd get more than BN and Sky combined.
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Fury gets plenty of attention
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Have to agree that ch 5 is amateur night.......
Still it's more exposure than Boxnation........
Price though is more marketable because he's more exciting...and has been matched better!!
Still it's more exposure than Boxnation........
Price though is more marketable because he's more exciting...and has been matched better!!
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Matched better? How so? His best win is against Audley for heaven's sake.
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He's been matched with guys that make him look good and are known on the British scene.....
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Fury has fought the better opposition hence rated higher.
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But he hasn't looked as good.......
But you're right he did beat the great Chisora..
But you're right he did beat the great Chisora..
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