Ireland team for 2015 RWC

15.Kearney
14.Conway
13.Marshall
12.Macken
11.Fitz
10.Sexton
9.McGrath
8.SOB/Timoney(schools player)
7.Ryan(Dominic)
6.Fez
5.POC
4.Who cares
3.NO one knows
2.Strauss
1.Healy
Leinster-10
Munster-1
Ulster-2
2-Don't know

Fitz? Surely there is a better winger available, even Earls. I would have Zebo, Gilroy, Bowe, D.Kearney and Trimble all ahead of him. I would agree that in recent years there is a lack of good front-row forwards in the U20's, certainly compared to what Wales have been producing. The back-row still looks pretty hot though.

Morgannwg wrote:Fitz? Surely there is a better winger available, even Earls. I would have Zebo, Gilroy, Bowe, D.Kearney and Trimble all ahead of him. I would agree that in recent years there is a lack of good front-row forwards in the U20's, certainly compared to what Wales have been producing. The back-row still looks pretty hot though.

Think Fitz, has more potential/natural talent than any other irish winger in history . It only took him half a year to get into the Irish team, he also started in the 2nd test for the Lions.

I know all that. But I still find that he is an average player and totally overrated.

his form was undeniably good in 09. Who's to say the likes of Zebo and Gilroy wont drop off in the years to come, having never reached those heights?

Morgannwg wrote:Fitz? Surely there is a better winger available, even Earls. I would have Zebo, Gilroy, Bowe, D.Kearney and Trimble all ahead of him. I would agree that in recent years there is a lack of good front-row forwards in the U20's, certainly compared to what Wales have been producing. The back-row still looks pretty hot though.

We have all our eggs in one basket and are hoping that at least one of Archer at Munster,Moore or Furlong at Leinster and a young LH at Ulster (his name escapes me) who is switching to TH next season can push on.

Morgannwg wrote:I know all that. But I still find that he is an average player and totally overrated.

I think he's far better than that but agree he hasn't lived up to his potential,any time he has played over the last 2 years he has looked like he is finally going to deliver but injury has curtailed his progress.I would love to see him kick on and really deliver but up til now he hasn't justified the hype.

BODisGOD wrote:his form was undeniably good in 09. Who's to say the likes of Zebo and Gilroy wont drop off in the years to come, having never reached those heights?

Speculation I guess, just like your article. However from what I, that is me, Morg, have seen is that those two particulars (Zebo and Gilroy) look like they have more skill and potential than Fitz did when he was just emerging. I think Fitz is a good player for Leinster but average for Ireland.

asoreleftshoulder wrote:

Morgannwg wrote:Fitz? Surely there is a better winger available, even Earls. I would have Zebo, Gilroy, Bowe, D.Kearney and Trimble all ahead of him. I would agree that in recent years there is a lack of good front-row forwards in the U20's, certainly compared to what Wales have been producing. The back-row still looks pretty hot though.

We have all our eggs in one basket and are hoping that at least one of Archer at Munster,Moore or Furlong at Leinster and a young LH at Ulster (his name escapes me) who is switching to TH next season can push on.

....how is that having all of our eggs in one basket exactly?

As a new poster I supposed you should be allowed some leeway but you are coming across as a complete wind up merchant.

You OP is garbage - objectivity is obviously not your strong suit

BODisGOD wrote:

Morgannwg wrote:Fitz? Surely there is a better winger available, even Earls. I would have Zebo, Gilroy, Bowe, D.Kearney and Trimble all ahead of him. I would agree that in recent years there is a lack of good front-row forwards in the U20's, certainly compared to what Wales have been producing. The back-row still looks pretty hot though.

Think Fitz, has more potential/natural talent than any other irish winger in history . It only took him half a year to get into the Irish team, he also started in the 2nd test for the Lions.

Fitz has never lived up to his potential though. Doesnt have an international standard rugby brain.

Mickado wrote:

asoreleftshoulder wrote:

Morgannwg wrote:Fitz? Surely there is a better winger available, even Earls. I would have Zebo, Gilroy, Bowe, D.Kearney and Trimble all ahead of him. I would agree that in recent years there is a lack of good front-row forwards in the U20's, certainly compared to what Wales have been producing. The back-row still looks pretty hot though.

We have all our eggs in one basket and are hoping that at least one of Archer at Munster,Moore or Furlong at Leinster and a young LH at Ulster (his name escapes me) who is switching to TH next season can push on.

....how is that having all of our eggs in one basket exactly?

I meant Mike Ross is all our eggs.

POC and Ferris will both have retired by 2015 Id say.

I think the team will look something like this

15.Killarney
14.Connnaght
13.Mulranny
12.Mayo
11.Finglas
10.Sexford
9.McMunster
8.Sooey
7.Rylane
6.Feakle
5.Paulstown
4.O'Beejeeesus
3.O'feck
2.Stoneybatter
1.Howth

asoreleftshoulder wrote:

Mickado wrote:

asoreleftshoulder wrote:

Morgannwg wrote:Fitz? Surely there is a better winger available, even Earls. I would have Zebo, Gilroy, Bowe, D.Kearney and Trimble all ahead of him. I would agree that in recent years there is a lack of good front-row forwards in the U20's, certainly compared to what Wales have been producing. The back-row still looks pretty hot though.

We have all our eggs in one basket and are hoping that at least one of Archer at Munster,Moore or Furlong at Leinster and a young LH at Ulster (his name escapes me) who is switching to TH next season can push on.

....how is that having all of our eggs in one basket exactly?

I meant Mike Ross is all our eggs.

Ah yes, I get it now.

Both Moore and Furlong are very highly rated, can see Moore getting more game time next season with Hagan off to LI. No harm there, he's a barrell of a lad, very hard to scummage against I'd say...

RubyGuby wrote:I think the team will look something like this

15.Killarney
14.Connnaght
13.Mulranny
12.Mayo
11.Finglas
10.Sexford
9.McMunster
8.Sooey
7.Rylane
6.Feakle
5.Paulstown
4.O'Poopie
3.O'feck
2.Stoneybatter
1.Howth

Looks good Ruby, got the auld tolken Ulsterman at 2 as well....

RubyGuby wrote:I think the team will look something like this

15.Killarney
14.Connnaght
13.Mulranny
12.Mayo
11.Finglas
10.Sexford
9.McMunster
8.Sooey
7.Rylane
6.Feakle
5.Paulstown
4.O'Poopie
3.O'feck
2.Stoneybatter
1.Howth

O'Poopie the only Munster player? Bit harsh.

Guns n Gerns - The Munster lad has just been dropped for an up and coming catholic 2nd row from County Killarneydare

RubyGuby wrote:Guns n Gerns - The Munster lad has just been dropped for an up and coming catholic 2nd row from County Killarneydare

What province is that in? €untster?

01 Cian Healy
02 Rory Best
03 Mike Ross
04 Donnacha Ryan
05 Paul O'Connell
06 Iain Henderson
07 Sean O'Brien
08 Jamie Heaslip (c)
09 Conor Murray
10 Paddy Jackson
11 Simon Zebo
12 Luke Marshall
13 Keith Earls
14 Tommy Bowe
15 Rob Kearney

Coach: Declan Kidney

geoff998rugby wrote:As a new poster I supposed you should be allowed some leeway but you are coming across as a complete wind up merchant.

You OP is garbage - objectivity is obviously not your strong suit

+1

Healy-Best-Ross
Ryan-POC
SOB-Heaslip-Henry
Marmion-Madigan
Marshall-Henshaw
Zebo-Kearney-Bowe

Strauss-Kilcoyne-Bent-Tuohy-TOD-Murray-Sexton-Fitz

01 Cian Healy
02 Richardt Strauss
03 Ozzie O'Finnegan
04 Donnacha Ryan
05 Paul O'Connell
06 Iain Henderson
07 Chris Henry (c)
08 CJ Stander
09 Paul Marshall
10 Ian Madigan
11 Graig Gilroy
12 Luke Marshall
13 Jared Payne
14 Tommy Bowe
15 Simon Zebo

Coach: Eddie O'Sullivan.

Timoney!

1. Healy
2. Best
3. Furlong
4. Ryan
5. POC
6. Henderson
7. Henry
8. SOB
9. McGrath
10. Madigan
11. Gilroy
12. JJ
13. Marshall
14. Zebo
15. Henshaw

Who is Timoney?!!!

Can't understand the total non-consideration of Zebo and Gilroy. Both are young enough to make the wings their own by the time 2015 rolls around and since their emergence have looked distinctly more impressive than Conway and/or Fitz.

Knowsit17 wrote:Can't understand the total non-consideration of Zebo and Gilroy. Both are young enough to make the wings their own by the time 2015 rolls around and since their emergence have looked distinctly more impressive than Conway and/or Fitz.

I say dont write off Trimble either. If he is used properly and can replicate his Ulster form, there is no reason why he shouldnt be in the squad. The future is bright (TH aside)!!

Timoney

You don't understand Knowsit- really?

How wrong was I!!