Was Mayweather's greatest win really that great?

The superfeather weight fight against Diego Corrales is widely regarded as Floyd Mayweather's greatest win.

Corrales like Mayweather was an unbeaten young champion, Corrales had a great record of 33-0 with a high KO %.
Corrales was a huge superfeather over 5ft 10 and the fight was a 50/50 and was eagerly anticipated.

Now on the surface this looks like a great win for Mayweather his best in his career albeit 10 years ago but closely inspection of the Corrales physical and mental condition and realised that the Corrales that Mayweather faced was of a shell of the fighter he was and how good was he really.

First off Corrales had violent argument with his then wife that would lead to his marriage break-up and lead to Corrales serving a 14 month prison sentence.

He also had the court date looming at the time of the Mayweather fight, which Corrales new he would face prison because he would plea bargain.

The Mayweather fight was rushed together and Corrales had a falling out with his management for given away his title without his consent to a stablemate Steve Forbes. His management did not seem to be acting in his best interests.

Corrales sued his management which became another distraction in the lead up to the Mayweather fight.

Corrales being that tall struggled to make weight and at 22/23 when he was still growing it became even more difficult, he should have moved up to lightweight or even light-welter but his management wanted to cash in on the Mayweather fight.

It would be the last time Corrales would fight at 130lbs but he did everything he could to make weight. He would only eat a grapefruit a day when cutting, jogging in rubber suits, steam baths after steam bath. On the day of the weigh in Corrales lost 8lbs in that morning but for all his efforts of his grapefruit diet and running in a rubber suit he was still 2lbs over. He went back and managed to get the extra 2lbs off in time but at what cost.

On fight night Corrales body was starved and waterlogged trying to rehydrate which led to disastrous effects. Come the 3-4th round Corrales's body was cramping up, not only was he fighting Floyd Mayweather he was fighting all the effect of starving and dehydrating himself and then rehydrating again.


Corrales open and aggressive style was made for Mayweather, Mayweather also taunted him about his personal problems which Corrales took the bait and played into Mayweather's hand added to his mental and physical problems, does this taint this win of Mayweather's, which is meant to be his greatest?

http://www.newsreview.com/sacramento/rises-falls-of-diego-corrales/content?oid=14761

Great win.

Like Balti said great win.

You don't think Corrales's physical problems combined with his mental distraction take something away.

Great win.

Great win.

It really shocked me that he was only eating a grapefruit a day, with jogging in rubber suits and steam baths can't be good for your health.

Not sure if any of you are nutritionalist that could inform us on what kind of toll would that take on the body.

Fantastic win

Did you know, of the 49 Sports Illustrated covers which featured boxing, Muhammad Ali was on 38 of them.

Fantastic win. Totally schooled him before knocking him out. A wonderful display of boxing.

Scottrf wrote:Did you know, of the 49 Sports Illustrated covers which featured boxing, Muhammad Ali was on 38 of them.

Really? That's pretty good going.

Was Mike Tyson not on 4 or 5 as well?

D4thincarnation wrote:It really shocked me that he was only eating a grapefruit a day, with jogging in rubber suits and steam baths can't be good for your health.

Not sure if any of you are nutritionalist that could inform us on what kind of toll would that take on the body.

Yep, he showed some grapefruits stepping into the squared circle to face the bext boxer of his generation. He wasn't scared of needles either.

Agreed with the other lads it was a brilliant win for him.

azania wrote:Fantastic win. Totally schooled him before knocking him out. A wonderful display of boxing.

Don't you think the condition of the opponent matter? And is was no KO his corner threw in the towel.

Yeah he was on a few:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/cover/Boxing/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/dd/1/49/index.htm

You can access full copies of every issue.

Scottrf wrote:Yeah he was on a few:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/cover/Boxing/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/dd/1/49/index.htm

You can access full copies of every issue.

Cheers mate that's reallty interesting.

Scottrf wrote:Yeah he was on a few:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/cover/Boxing/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/dd/1/49/index.htm

You can access full copies of every issue.

Nice link. Looks like it's basically Ali, Tyson, Holyfield and a couple others. Mental.

So Diego had problems making weight and the fight was without weight stips also. Heaven forbid that a unification fight between the best boxers at their weight should go ahead.

And what on earth is this: The Mayweather fight was rushed together and Corrales had a falling out with his management for given away his title without his consent to a stablemate Steve Forbes. His management did not seem to be acting in his best interests.

Since when could you give your titles to a stablemate? Titles are won in the ring (Lennox the exception). Did the management team say to Forbes "here you go mate, the titles are now yours". This isn't a Bob Arum 'keep it inhouse' stuff.

Joker.

BALTIMORA wrote:

Scottrf wrote:Yeah he was on a few:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/cover/Boxing/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/dd/1/49/index.htm

You can access full copies of every issue.

Nice link. Looks like it's basically Ali, Tyson, Holyfield and a couple others. Mental.

I think it just proves how important he heavyweight division is, it'll always overshadows the lowerweight.

Corrales, never really proved he was a elite fighter or a great fighter in his career.

A very exciting fighter yes but lacked discipline or great skills.

But despite all of this and his problems in the fight with Mayweather this is Mayweather's best win.

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:

BALTIMORA wrote:

Scottrf wrote:Yeah he was on a few:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/cover/Boxing/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/dd/1/49/index.htm

You can access full copies of every issue.

Nice link. Looks like it's basically Ali, Tyson, Holyfield and a couple others. Mental.

I think it just proves how important he heavyweight division is, it'll always oversahdow the lowerweight.

It always has done. Even in the days of old timers

azania wrote:So Diego had problems making weight and the fight was without weight stips also. Heaven forbid that a unification fight between the best boxers at their weight should go ahead.

And what on earth is this: The Mayweather fight was rushed together and Corrales had a falling out with his management for given away his title without his consent to a stablemate Steve Forbes. His management did not seem to be acting in his best interests.

Since when could you give your titles to a stablemate? Titles are won in the ring (Lennox the exception). Did the management team say to Forbes "here you go mate, the titles are now yours". This isn't a Bob Arum 'keep it inhouse' stuff.

Joker.

Yes it was shocking, Corrales was very upset by this and felt betrayed by his management.

D4thincarnation wrote:Corrales, never really proved he was a elite fighter or a great fighter in his career.

A very exciting fighter yes but lacked discipline or great skills.

But despite all of this and his problems in the fight with Mayweather this is Mayweather's best win.

Oscar- weight drained.
Moralez - weight drained
MAB - old and over the hill
JMM - beat Pac twice.
Cotto - weight drained.
Marg - weight drained and cr@p anyway
Clottey - never was that good
Hatton - beaten up by Floyd

Pac = right place right time. Almost like a vulture feeding off the carrion of Floyd's left-overs.

D4thincarnation wrote:

azania wrote:So Diego had problems making weight and the fight was without weight stips also. Heaven forbid that a unification fight between the best boxers at their weight should go ahead.

And what on earth is this: The Mayweather fight was rushed together and Corrales had a falling out with his management for given away his title without his consent to a stablemate Steve Forbes. His management did not seem to be acting in his best interests.

Since when could you give your titles to a stablemate? Titles are won in the ring (Lennox the exception). Did the management team say to Forbes "here you go mate, the titles are now yours". This isn't a Bob Arum 'keep it inhouse' stuff.

Joker.

Yes it was shocking, Corrales was very upset by this and felt betrayed by his management.

So the management team just gave the belts to forbes. Was it gift wrapped like a present?

azania wrote:

D4thincarnation wrote:

azania wrote:So Diego had problems making weight and the fight was without weight stips also. Heaven forbid that a unification fight between the best boxers at their weight should go ahead.

And what on earth is this: The Mayweather fight was rushed together and Corrales had a falling out with his management for given away his title without his consent to a stablemate Steve Forbes. His management did not seem to be acting in his best interests.

Since when could you give your titles to a stablemate? Titles are won in the ring (Lennox the exception). Did the management team say to Forbes "here you go mate, the titles are now yours". This isn't a Bob Arum 'keep it inhouse' stuff.

Joker.

Yes it was shocking, Corrales was very upset by this and felt betrayed by his management.

So the management team just gave the belts to forbes. Was it gift wrapped like a present?

As shocking as it is thats how it went down, must have made some deal with the sanctioning body. This was another big distraction for Corrales.

Coralles wanted the money more than the belts. Just think, he had no sanctioning fees to pay.

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:

BALTIMORA wrote:

Scottrf wrote:Yeah he was on a few:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/cover/Boxing/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/dd/1/49/index.htm

You can access full copies of every issue.

Nice link. Looks like it's basically Ali, Tyson, Holyfield and a couple others. Mental.

I think it just proves how important he heavyweight division is, it'll always overshadows the lowerweight.

Crazy stuff really. I'm just more shocked by how many covers Ali was on, even when he'd been retired for over a decade.

BALTIMORA wrote:

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:

BALTIMORA wrote:

Scottrf wrote:Yeah he was on a few:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/cover/Boxing/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/dd/1/49/index.htm

You can access full copies of every issue.

Nice link. Looks like it's basically Ali, Tyson, Holyfield and a couple others. Mental.

I think it just proves how important he heavyweight division is, it'll always overshadows the lowerweight.

Crazy stuff really. I'm just more shocked by how many covers Ali was on, even when he'd been retired for over a decade.

Is Jinkee on the cover of any magazines?

azania wrote:Coralles wanted the money more than the belts. Just think, he had no sanctioning fees to pay.

No he was furious with this and felt betrayed by his management. So upset by it he took legal action which was settled.

His management were selling him out, he should have been fight at lightweight at that time.

D4thincarnation wrote:

azania wrote:Coralles wanted the money more than the belts. Just think, he had no sanctioning fees to pay.

No he was furious with this and felt betrayed by his management. So upset by it he took legal action which was settled.

His management were selling him out, he should have been fight at lightweight at that time.

Are you aware that Moralez was also weight drained when he rematched Pac? Should I provide the link for you? Or will it be deflecting the thread?

azania wrote:Is Jinkee on the cover of any magazines?

TGLife

Scottrf wrote:

azania wrote:Is Jinkee on the cover of any magazines?

TGLife

What is that?

azania wrote:

BALTIMORA wrote:

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:

BALTIMORA wrote:

Scottrf wrote:Yeah he was on a few:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/cover/Boxing/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/dd/1/49/index.htm

You can access full copies of every issue.

Nice link. Looks like it's basically Ali, Tyson, Holyfield and a couple others. Mental.

I think it just proves how important he heavyweight division is, it'll always overshadows the lowerweight.

Crazy stuff really. I'm just more shocked by how many covers Ali was on, even when he'd been retired for over a decade.

Is Jinkee on the cover of any magazines?

No think Mannys old bit on the side is on a couple though. Think Sugar Shanes bit is on a few.

Az, she's on here..:

http://www.mukamo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/jinkee-pacquiao.jpg

Great win.

Maxim:
http://pipitblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/jinkee-pacquiao-krista-ranillo_maxim.jpg

Yes:
http://www.pep.ph/images/news/1ddffa64b.jpg

Actually, most of these look fake.

BALTIMORA wrote:Az, she's on here..:

http://www.mukamo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/jinkee-pacquiao.jpg

"Get a Money Makeover"

http://kristianm.i.ph/photo/d/992-1/FHMKrista.jpg

Jukebox Timebomb wrote:

BALTIMORA wrote:Az, she's on here..:

http://www.mukamo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/jinkee-pacquiao.jpg

"Get a Money Makeover"

HA! I didn't even notice that!!! Brilliant!

BALTIMORA wrote:

Jukebox Timebomb wrote:

BALTIMORA wrote:Az, she's on here..:

http://www.mukamo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/jinkee-pacquiao.jpg

"Get a Money Makeover"

HA! I didn't even notice that!!! Brilliant!

Page 5 is a pic of Jinkee Pacquiao with black eyes.

BALTIMORA wrote:http://kristianm.i.ph/photo/d/992-1/FHMKrista.jpg

Megan Fox was in that edition

I bet the caption on this one is hilarious:

http://pipitblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/manny_pacquiao_jinkee_pacquiao_fight.jpg

prettyboykev wrote:

BALTIMORA wrote:http://kristianm.i.ph/photo/d/992-1/FHMKrista.jpg

Megan Fox was in that edition

Now thats a great win!

With all due respect to Corrales he's only got himself to blame for these circumstances, stay in shape, dont beat your wife & get decent management! I'm sure this wasn't the 1st & only fall out or disagreement he had with them.

This is really sad D4, we all know you dislike Mayweather & consider him a ducker with a manufactured career & you like nothing more than to pick holes in his record whilst bigging up your favorite fighter. I don't think anybody is really interested in debating this with you as we all know the direction it will take & to be honest is pretty pointless. Why not post on something more positive & interesting on boxing that others would like debate on as you are more than capable of. This sort of thing as you well know does the board no favors.

sohotnot wrote:With all due respect to Corrales he's only got himself to blame for these circumstances, stay in shape, dont beat your wife & get decent management! I'm sure this wasn't the 1st & only fall out or disagreement he had with them.

This is really sad D4, we all know you dislike Mayweather & consider him a ducker with a manufactured career & you like nothing more than to pick holes in his record whilst bigging up your favorite fighter. I don't think anybody is really interested in debating this with you as we all know the direction it will take & to be honest is pretty pointless. Why not post on something more positive & interesting on boxing that others would like debate on as you are more than capable of. This sort of thing as you well know does the board no favors.

Corrales does have to shoulder some of the blame, but the question is , does this take some of the shine of Floyd's win considering Corrales physical and mental state.

D4thincarnation wrote:

sohotnot wrote:With all due respect to Corrales he's only got himself to blame for these circumstances, stay in shape, dont beat your wife & get decent management! I'm sure this wasn't the 1st & only fall out or disagreement he had with them.

This is really sad D4, we all know you dislike Mayweather & consider him a ducker with a manufactured career & you like nothing more than to pick holes in his record whilst bigging up your favorite fighter. I don't think anybody is really interested in debating this with you as we all know the direction it will take & to be honest is pretty pointless. Why not post on something more positive & interesting on boxing that others would like debate on as you are more than capable of. This sort of thing as you well know does the board no favors.

Corrales does have to shoulder some of the blame, but the question is , does this take some of the shine of Floyd's win considering Corrales physical and mental state.

Nope. Great win.

Amazing win

Just a really impressive, dominating win. Kinda blows out the water this notion that Mayweather's always been a boring, defence-minded fighter who's happy with a boring UD and who's feather-fisted...

Superb and silky display with devestating punches. By far the quickest ever hands in boxing. 8)