Ongoing NFL Discussion Thread Part 3

[Derbyblue]

First topic message reminder :

Eagles traded Dion Lewis to Cleveland for Emmanuel Acho. Decent backup Lewis, just not as good as Brown.

Basically depth for depth, though I did think we were fine at RB with Richardson, Hardesty and Ogbonnaya but Acho wouldn't have fit the new 3-4 scheme so can't really complain about the deal too much and maybe one of those back ups gets sent off in a trade somewhere during the draft.

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Not quite because there's no bigger let down than being a baseball fan

[CFCNick]

 Take me out to the ballpark. Take me out with the crowd. Buy me some peanuts and cracker jack. I don't care if I never get back. Let me root, root, root for the home team, if they don't win, it's a shame. For it's one, two, three strikes, you're out, at the old ball game.

LETS GO METS!!!  

[sodhat]

With the Mets surely it's less of a letdown because of the continued failures over their history.

The Eagles used to be alright...

[NYJ]

I'd like to play devils advocate for a second.

The Eagles OL will be much improved with the return of Jason Peters and the addition of Lane Johnson. Vick and Foles were under pressure on about 40% of dropbacks. Add in the up tempo offense that gets the ball out quickly and has the defense blowing out their arse, there will be less pressure on Vick. Less pressure means less turnovers. I can see them having a wildly hot and cold season where they absolutely dominate games at times.

[CFCNick]

The Mets have won two championships....... albeit the 2nd one was 27 years ago, and until the last 10-12 years have been quite decent. Even made it to the World Series in 2000.

Not close to being on par with the Cubs or Eagles.

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Playing devils advocate to the devils advocate, our defense is poor and Vicks had problems with up tempo before. I had in the region of 6 wins as about par

[mikeygnfl]

Apparently jobs are being advertised to work on C4 NFL production...

[NYJ]

Playing devils advocate to the devils advocate, our defense is poor and Vicks had problems with up tempo before. I had in the region of 6 wins as about par

I agree.

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https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3UtEYGaz83gY3VyMmVQcjJiXzg/edit

Madden 25 ratings apparently.

[mikeygnfl]

Some interesting preseason games this week. The Packers take on the Seahawks. Will there be any Golden 'catch' touchdowns?

There are a few 'local' derbies including the Jets vs Giants, Bucs vs Dolphins and the Chargers vs Cardinals.

There are also a couple of 100% preseason records that will go as the Bills take on the Redskins and the Texans faced the Saints.

[crazy_dave23]

We totally beat the Seahawks last year...  

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Detroit still give up ridiculous amounts of penalties. 3 already and we ain't done 2 drives yet

[Number-25]

Was having a wee laugh there at how amped up the Lions players seemed to be about a preseason win over the Pats. The word "losers" comes to mind.

[mikeygnfl]

So the Patriots decide not to play Tebow and get hammered 40-9. Coincidence? I think so.

On the plus side for the Patriots Kendrell Thompkins and Aaron Dobson saw alot of the ball and played well.

The Panthers defence looked very good against the Ravens with Star Lotulelei and Luke Kuechley.

[CFCNick]

Erm........ hello David Wilson!!!!! More of that in the regular season please.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Geno Smith or Mark Sanchez?

That's a pick your poison if ever I saw it

[CFCNick]

Geno. 10/20, 123 yards, 3 picks.

We've lost Hosley and Stevie Brown to knocks. Bear Pascoe leads the receiving with a 10 yard play. Randle 2nd with a 9 yard catch.

Highlights, it's like the Geno and Sanchez comedy show - http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-york-giants/0ap2000000234071/Pre-Week-3-Jets-vs-Giants

I real hope the Jets fans don't get carried away with the result. Curtis Painter was our leading passer. Jernigan finished as the leading receiver.

[mikeygnfl]

Geno Smith or Mark Sanchez?

That's a pick your poison if ever I saw it

Bring back Tebow...

[mikeygnfl]

The Redskins having been going well in preseason without RG3. Still think they would have beat the Seahawks had they taken him straight out of the playoff game.

From some reports RG3 may not be back in time for week 1.

[cherriesfna]

The Redskins having been going well in preseason without RG3. Still think they would have beat the Seahawks had they taken him straight out of the playoff game.

From some reports RG3 may not be back in time for week 1.

The only reason they put up points because of his legs, we would have eaten Kirk Cousins alive out there

[CFCNick]

Reports coming out that friend of the podcast Stevie Brown has torn his ACL.       

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They can have Phillips back. Though his knee sounds just as bad

[NYJ]

Jets defense was really good. I have nothing else to say on the game.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Kolb's concussion he suffered yesterday could be career-ending

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Any news on UK Coverage yet?

[TM Moot]

Any news on UK Coverage yet?

NFL UK has SKYSPORTS showing the Ravens@Broncos, Falcons@Saints and Packers@49ers on opening w/e.  

[CFCNick]

Any news on UK Coverage yet?

If you wade through all the arguments on nfluk you'll see nothing, other than Sky, is official yet.

[mikeygnfl]

Only Sky's coverage has been announced. It would be a massive surprise if SNF isn't on C4 and MNF is anyone's guess. I would suggest that MNF is likely to be on C4 or BBC. I haven't seen much indication that BT Sport are interested.

PS - Haven't forgot my Q&A/ preview thread. I have had to go to work for the past two weeks so haven't had much time  Got some time off now so should sent PM with questions out over next couple of days.

[sodhat]

http://www.rollingstone.com/feature/the-gangster-in-the-huddle

Interesting read on Hernandez and how he got to where he is today. You almost feel sorry for the kid he used to be.

[mikeygnfl]

Last preseason night. All teams playing. Should be interesting for a few teams/ players.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Pats not playing the starters it seems bar a couple

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Very few starters ever play preseason week 4

[Forward Pass]

Very few starters ever play preseason week 4

Bet the Giants wish they hadn't played any now

[mikeygnfl]

It seems RG3, Geno Smith and EJ Manuel will all be starting in week 1. While Matt Flynn should get his chance in Oakland.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

God I hope Tebow gets cut

[NYJ]

Geno Smith is starting by default. Matt Simms played very well last night. Just saying...

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He was playing the backups of the worst pass D in the NFL

[mikeygnfl]

This is how the play offs would look based on preseason (ties based on points difference as there were little or no conference/ divisional games).

AFC

Wildcards
3. Jets vs 6. Patriots
4. Chiefs vs 5. Browns

Byes:- 1. Bengals, 2. Texans

NFC

Wildcards
3. Lions vs 6. Saints
4. Panthers vs 5. 49ers

Byes:- 1. Seahawks, 2. Redskins

[NYJ]

He was playing the backups of the worst pass D in the NFL

Tongue was firmly in cheek.  

This is how the play offs would look based on preseason (ties based on points difference as there were little or no conference/ divisional games).

AFC

Wildcards
3. Jets vs 6. Patriots
4. Chiefs vs 5. Browns

Byes:- 1. Bengals, 2. Texans

NFC

Wildcards
3. Lions vs 6. Saints
4. Panthers vs 5. 49ers

Byes:- 1. Seahawks, 2. Redskins

It's sorted then. Jets to win the division.

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08 Lions to the SB

[mikeygnfl]

It is worth noting too that over the past five seasons only 33% of teams that made the playoffs had a winning preseason record.

[CFCNick]

Continuing the theme of preseason meaninglessness

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Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd Tebow is gone

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If you needed any clues as to why the Eagles are terrible, their 2011 1st and 2nd round picks are now off the team.

[mikeygnfl]

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd Tebow is gone

The Jets could do with a QB...

[CFCNick]

David Carr and Marvin Austin cut.

[Lowlandbrit]

And after a battle to replace Phil Dawson, the Browns have decided to cut both their kickers. They also have just 4 WR and 4 CB left.
Meanwhile, the Raiders are left with 4 QB and 2 punters.

[sodhat]

It seems RG3, Geno Smith and EJ Manuel will all be starting in week 1. While Matt Flynn should get his chance in Oakland.

The fact we are holding four quarterbacks suggests maybe not. I think they are planning to flip Flynn if they can and get something back. I think TP looks more like the starter after that move.

Why we have two punters is beyond me though.

[Guest]

No longer have 4 QBs Sodhat after they have decided to get rid of Tyler Wilson who fell behind undrafted Matt McGloin in the pecking order

Even under a new regime this franchise is still a joke. Hate them. A team rebuilding can't be affording to waste fourth round picks

[Guest]

I believe Kluwe has also been released leaving King as our one and only punter

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