Ongoing NFL Discussion Thread Part 3

by **Derbyblue** Fri 12 Apr 2013, 4:27 pm

First topic message reminder :

GSC wrote:Eagles traded Dion Lewis to Cleveland for Emmanuel Acho. Decent backup Lewis, just not as good as Brown.

Basically depth for depth, though I did think we were fine at RB with Richardson, Hardesty and Ogbonnaya but Acho wouldn't have fit the new 3-4 scheme so can't really complain about the deal too much and maybe one of those back ups gets sent off in a trade somewhere during the draft.

by GSC Sun 01 Sep 2013, 8:15 pm

Most QB picks after the 2nd round tend to be low success rate anyway

by sodhat Mon 02 Sep 2013, 9:07 am

Glad we kept King, I think he has more upside and he's probably cheaper too.

Poor old Tyler lost out to a UDFA. From seeing preseason McGloin looked alright, Gazzy. But I agree a 4th round pick shouldn't have been wasted like that.

The worst cut I saw was David Bass. He was a 6th rounder and he actually looked like he could get to the QB. Ergo, we cut the guy.

by cherriesfna Mon 02 Sep 2013, 10:38 am

GSC wrote:Most QB picks after the 2nd round tend to be low success rate anyway

by Colan (niner) Mon 02 Sep 2013, 11:56 am

will we be doing a prediction league again this year? I'm ready to regain my title

by mikeygnfl Mon 02 Sep 2013, 6:10 pm

Colan (niner) wrote:will we be doing a prediction league again this year? I'm ready to regain my title

I'll be running my score based comp... If GSC is doing his league again I'd be interested after taking over very late last year.

I'm going to send the NFL preview questions out tonight (a little late but I'm struggling for free time at the moment). I've got Olly, Colan, nyj, CFCNick, crazy_dave down. Just a couple/ few lines on each q will be enough. If you can get a pm back before Wednesday night, I should get something up for Thursday.

by mikeygnfl Mon 02 Sep 2013, 6:14 pm

Still think Raiders should have gone with Matt Barkley and built around him over next few years.

by crazy_dave23 Mon 02 Sep 2013, 7:17 pm

mikeygnfl wrote:
Colan (niner) wrote:will we be doing a prediction league again this year? I'm ready to regain my title
I'll be running my score based comp... If GSC is doing his league again I'd be interested after taking over very late last year.

I'm going to send the NFL preview questions out tonight (a little late but I'm struggling for free time at the moment). I've got Olly, Colan, nyj, CFCNick, crazy_dave down. Just a couple/ few lines on each q will be enough. If you can get a pm back before Wednesday night, I should get something up for Thursday.

should be able to do 2moro night

by sodhat Tue 03 Sep 2013, 2:16 pm

Wilson ends up back on the Raiders practice squad so we'll see if he is able to develop this year and earn a spot for next.

Looking like Terrelle Pryor gets the start in Oakland. I hope he is actually given a chance and not pulled the second he has a bad game. Because he will have bad games.

by mikeygnfl Tue 03 Sep 2013, 5:50 pm

Looking like Terrelle Pryor gets the start in Oakland. I hope he is actually given a chance and not pulled the second he has a bad game. Because he will have bad games.

Starting this weekend... What must Matt Flynn be thinking?

by Guest Tue 03 Sep 2013, 6:19 pm

I think personally I'd rather Flynn had started but it looks like the Raiders Facebook following are getting theirwish

As Sodhat says if they start him they need to stick by him because he is going to suck the first few games (I reckon)

Quick FF question. I can start 3 of

Calvin Johnson v Min
Victory cruz @ Dal
Tavon Austin v Ari
Andre Johnson @SD

Already decided Megatron, just need two of the other three. Who do you reckon?

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 03 Sep 2013, 6:20 pm

Gotta be Andre Johnson and Cruz Gazzy

by NYJ Tue 03 Sep 2013, 6:30 pm

Austin is a complete mystery and the Cardinals have a decent defense (well, they did under Ray Horton). You have three studs there so don't use Austin until he becomes something.

by **Derbyblue** Tue 03 Sep 2013, 6:32 pm

Not had enough time to do a single FF league this year Sad

Definitely Johnson against the Chargers, then I think I would go with the WR you know with Cruz and not Austin.

by Colan (niner) Tue 03 Sep 2013, 11:07 pm

anyone having a little betting activity on any of the games this week? I've backed 49ers, Falcons, Bucs, Seahawks, Rams, Pats, Colts and Chiefs to win

by TM Moot Wed 04 Sep 2013, 10:29 am

Colan (niner) wrote:anyone having a little betting activity on any of the games this week? I've backed 49ers, Falcons, Bucs, Seahawks, Rams, Pats, Colts and Chiefs to win

haven't checked the odds yet, but quite fancy wins for CIN, CLE, PHI, KC & SF

by BamBam Wed 04 Sep 2013, 10:38 am

Will definitely be betting, like the look of Baltimore getting 8 points against the Broncos

by Colan (niner) Wed 04 Sep 2013, 2:01 pm

Check your pm's guys

by NYJ Wed 04 Sep 2013, 4:44 pm

I've decided to do something different with betting this year. I'm going to have two 3-5 team accumulators. One with favourites and one with underdogs. £5 on TEN, CIN and GB @22/1. £5 on DEN, IND, KC and WAS @5/1.

Also got £10 on a Broncos win and Thomas TD @ 5/4.

Last year I mainly placed large singles on the spread. Worked out about even for the year.

by dancingweeman Wed 04 Sep 2013, 7:49 pm

Colan (niner) wrote:anyone having a little betting activity on any of the games this week? I've backed 49ers, Falcons, Bucs, Seahawks, Rams, Pats, Colts and Chiefs to win

I'll definitely be having a little dabble each week, not that last proved to be very successful.

I used to tend to do over/under points but got fed up of teams taking knees in the last minutes when I needed a point or two for the bet to come in!

by **Derbyblue** Wed 04 Sep 2013, 9:23 pm

Colan (niner) wrote:anyone having a little betting activity on any of the games this week? I've backed 49ers, Falcons, Bucs, Seahawks, Rams, Pats, Colts and Chiefs to win

Considering it, tempted to go for Texans, Pats, Seahawks, Vikes, Colts may add in some others though as that would only return about a tenner per quid. With them all at 10/11 the over/under bets are looking attractive too...

by mikeygnfl Wed 04 Sep 2013, 10:06 pm

Just drafting in a 20 team league. Left QB late. Got Gabbert.

by **Derbyblue** Wed 04 Sep 2013, 10:36 pm

Hope the rest of the team looks better mikey?

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 04 Sep 2013, 10:40 pm

I'd bloody well hope so Laugh

by mikeygnfl Wed 04 Sep 2013, 10:51 pm

I had to draft Henne too incase Gabbert isn't fit for Sunday.

by **Derbyblue** Wed 04 Sep 2013, 11:46 pm

Never done a 20 team league but surely there's no way any of your other positions look as bad as Henne and Gabbert?

by Number-25 Thu 05 Sep 2013, 9:11 am

Football is back!! Football is back today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Number-25 Thu 05 Sep 2013, 9:18 am

mikeygnfl wrote:I had to draft Henne too incase Gabbert isn't fit for Sunday.

I've just seen this..... that's grim Mikey, very grim. You've got to post the rest of that team here so we can see it.

by TM Moot Thu 05 Sep 2013, 9:42 am

Number-25 wrote:Football is back!! Football is back today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by BamBam Thu 05 Sep 2013, 10:19 am

I'm basically ignoring week 1 thanks to exams on Monday. What kind of idiot thought scheduling them the day after 49ers-Packers was a bright idea

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu 05 Sep 2013, 12:59 pm

Chase Stuart ‏@fbgchase
It was only 963 days ago the Jets won as 9.5 point underdogs in Foxboro to go to their 2nd straight AFC Championship Game.

That was a painful experience

by sodhat Thu 05 Sep 2013, 1:04 pm

That must be the exact same length of time since someone used the words "franchise" "quarterback" and "Mark Sanchez" in the same sentence.

by Lowlandbrit Thu 05 Sep 2013, 2:17 pm

sodhat wrote:That must be the exact same length of time since someone used the words "franchise" "quarterback" and "Mark Sanchez" in the same sentence.

What are you talking about, people do that all the time; "Mark Sanchez is in no way a franchise quarterback.", "Whoever thought Mark Sanchez was a franchise quarterback must have been high.", "Thank heavens our franchise has a better quarterback than Mark Sanchez!", etc.

by **Pr4wn** Thu 05 Sep 2013, 2:43 pm

It's been over 5,000 days since the Buccaneers last played a game without Ronde Barber. It's gonna be weird watching a game without him in it.

by mikeygnfl Thu 05 Sep 2013, 3:14 pm

Number-25 wrote:
mikeygnfl wrote:I had to draft Henne too incase Gabbert isn't fit for Sunday.
I've just seen this..... that's grim Mikey, very grim. You've got to post the rest of that team here so we can see it.

Pretty stacked at RB and WR + got Vernon.Davis... Didn't realize there wasn't any QBs left until someone on chat said "He hasn't take Locker...".

by mikeygnfl Thu 05 Sep 2013, 3:16 pm

sodhat wrote:That must be the exact same length of time since someone used the words "franchise" "quarterback" and "Mark Sanchez" in the same sentence.

That must be without the word" not" not included.

by TM Moot Thu 05 Sep 2013, 3:33 pm

sodhat wrote:That must be the exact same length of time since someone used the words "franchise" "quarterback" and "Mark Sanchez" in the same sentence.

or, indeed, the word "Sanchise"...

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri 06 Sep 2013, 12:37 am

Menelik "You know what I mean" Watson

by mikeygnfl Fri 06 Sep 2013, 1:44 am

Broncos vs Ravens kick off delayed Laugh

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri 06 Sep 2013, 7:28 am

How does Ray Rice only have 12 rushes and Flacco 64 throws, 30 of which are before half time, in a game that didn't get out of hand till late 3rd quarter/early 4th

by Number-25 Fri 06 Sep 2013, 9:14 am

So, I never saw the last night.... were Denver that good or were Baltimore that bad?

by CFCNick Fri 06 Sep 2013, 10:33 am

Bit of both really. Ravens special teams were terrible.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri 06 Sep 2013, 10:54 am

I thought Flacco returned to being the Joe Flacco we all know, some of the throws back across his body that he got away with last night were awful, let alone the interceptions.

Don't think the Broncos D looked that sharp but were missing Miller and Bailey of course.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri 06 Sep 2013, 11:56 am

Oh and Peyton was one TD short of the amount of passing TD's the Chiefs had all of last season, last night.

by Duty281 Fri 06 Sep 2013, 12:56 pm

Telepathy. That's what Manning and his receivers must have had last night. Phenomenal.

by NYJ Fri 06 Sep 2013, 1:09 pm

Olly wrote:How does Ray Rice only have 12 rushes and Flacco 64 throws, 30 of which are before half time, in a game that didn't get out of hand till late 3rd quarter/early 4th

The Broncos were playing well against the run and, in the first half, the Denver D was getting no pressure on Flacco so he had time to sit in the pocket and wait for his receivers to open up. They didn't do him any favours by dropping an obscene amount of catchable targets though. Dallas Clark had an absolute 'mare. He dropped a perfectly thrown ball on the 2 yard line seconds before half time that meant they had to kick a FG and only led by 3 points. After that play, it all went downhill for the Ravens and they made silly errors like that unchallenged play that let to TD, blocked punt and the aforementioned drops. The Denver D really ramped it up in the second half, got more pressure through blitzing and the secondary played really well to hold things together while getting their hands on a lot of passes.

However, it was all about the Broncos offense. After a slow start, they found their rhythm and every receiver had big plays - except Decker who had a poor game. When the Ravens gave Manning Welker, he ripped them up with Welker. When they gave him Julius Thomas, he ripped them up with Julius Thomas. When they gave him no one, he ripped them up with Demaryius Thomas. Great performance from Manning and the Broncos - that's why they're favourites in the AFC.

by mikeygnfl Fri 06 Sep 2013, 2:30 pm

Saw most of the first half and it looked pretty even. Surprised at the final score from the first half but was expecting the Broncos to win comfortably. They should be number 1 seeds in the AFC this year.

Peyton Manning and Wes Welker linked up well together. The Patriots must miss him. Jury is still out on the Ravens this year. They will be challenging for a wildcard place at best.

by Skyforger Fri 06 Sep 2013, 3:19 pm

mikeygnfl wrote: Peyton Manning and Wes Welker linked up well together. The Patriots must miss him.

When Welker fumbled that fair catch on the 2 yard line I must admit I did snigger.

But having seen the rest of the match, we really are going to miss him...

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri 06 Sep 2013, 4:47 pm

Skyforger wrote:
mikeygnfl wrote: Peyton Manning and Wes Welker linked up well together. The Patriots must miss him.
When Welker fumbled that fair catch on the 2 yard line I must admit I did snigger.

But having seen the rest of the match, we really are going to miss him...

I think we'll be alright, be interesting to see if he starts dropping balls in Jan/Feb for Denver...

by skins4ever Fri 06 Sep 2013, 6:18 pm

The Ravens D was knackered by the 3rd qtr. Altitude got to them like it does a lot of teams playing in Denver, and first game of the season. Ravens will bounce back, but they are going to have a tough season to get back close to their form last year. Bronco's looked good from the 2nd quarter through. D started stepping up and O just clicked, though again, with the Ravens D knackered they took advantage rather than being more talented. Manning tricked them a few times and they got away with the Welker no catch call. Then again Decker had a shocker and that doesn't happen often, so they could be a tough team to face offensively and especially at Mile High.

by crazy_dave23 Fri 06 Sep 2013, 8:07 pm

I figure this should be fun to watch... i'm about to get going on it!

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