If Only Emmanuel Steward Was Still Alive

I reckon he'd have the Bronze Bomber, Deontay Wilder a world champion no doubt. He would have no doubt slowed his career, built him up slowly so that when he claimed he was ready to be ontop, Wlad was just leaving the scene.

Would have developed the correct fundamentals for him too, and used his height and reach in his favour and done what he did with Lennox, which was to get him balanced at all times. In the early part of Lennox's career at times, he could barely stand up straight and throw, towards the end he could throw every punch in the book to perfection.

Steward would have been the mman to put Wilder to greatness in my view. I don't think he will be without him, or somebody like him around, a truly great fighter.

I miss Steward

Theres this guy from Bradford called dave, works/worked for the fuzz. I reckon he'd make a fantastic trainer for wilder.

Wilder doesn't have the natural talent to be great imo. He is athletic. Probably a better b'ball player than boxer. To me he seems very uncoordinated. But Steward worked miracles with Andries who makes Wilder look like the reincarnation of Ali.

He worked miracles with most fighters he trained to be honest. And Wilder is exactly what Steward looks for in a fighter.

Perhaps Banks can train him.

I saw Hilmer Kenty..Jimmy Paul and Duane Thomas........................

This guy couldn't turn water into wine my friend.................

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I saw Hilmer Kenty..Jimmy Paul and Duane Thomas........................

This guy couldn't turn water into wine my friend.................

Those guys were good. Andries was his finest achievement. The guy had little talent but a huge heart. After the spanking from Hearns he went there andlearned how to jab and move. He looked decent. Kenty, Paul etc had talent. Andries hardly had any.

ShahenshahG wrote:Theres this guy from Bradford called dave, works/worked for the fuzz. I reckon he'd make a fantastic trainer for wilder.

Says more about the state of the HW division than my abilities as a trainer. However, I believe even I could polish this particular t*rd!

AlexHuckerby wrote:I reckon he'd have the Bronze Bomber, Deontay Wilder a world champion no doubt.

There is a saying that you cant polish turds

AlexHuckerby wrote:I reckon he'd have the Bronze Bomber, Deontay Wilder a world champion no doubt. He would have no doubt slowed his career, built him up slowly

Slowly, he'd have died of old age if he moved wilder any slower.

If you see in black and white and regard Wilder as a 'World Champion in the making' or 'just another American hype job' then please don't be too quick to congratulate yourself on your amazing boxing knowledge when the chance of either becoming true is 50-50. A deaf-dumb-blind man could call it with as much accuracy.

Lets just hope he lives up to the hype because boxing needs a good heavyweight.

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:I reckon he'd have the Bronze Bomber, Deontay Wilder a world champion no doubt.

There is a saying that you cant polish turds

No, but you can roll them in glitter.

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:I reckon he'd have the Bronze Bomber, Deontay Wilder a world champion no doubt.

There is a saying that you cant polish turds

No, but you can roll them in glitter.

Or mould it.

Steward like all trainers is overrated..............Great sportsman see the opening and take it..........In every field....Their thought process is quicker and then they let their talent take care of the rest........

All Stewards fighters would have achieved regardless of him, Futch and Dundee..etc

You don't think that the improvements from fellas such as Andries (in particular!), Lewis and Wladimir were at least in part down to Steward's influence, Truss? It's a bit of a coincidence otherwise!

The buck does ultimately stop with the fighter, I agree, but so many of them place their complete trust in a trainer's ideas and tactics, so I don't think the importance of trainers is overstated, really.

Look at Herol Graham, for instance. Making that temporary switch over from Ingle to Shaw was a terrible move - Shaw was a great trainer, but he was completely wrong for Herol and it showed in his performance when Shaw was in his corner. Graham was one of those fighters I'm talking about who swallowed whatever his corner told him hook, line and sinker (apart from the McCallum fight where he mysteriously just stopped working in the second half of the fight!) so for fighters of that ilk, the trainer is so, so important, I think.

The Boss wrote:

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:I reckon he'd have the Bronze Bomber, Deontay Wilder a world champion no doubt.

There is a saying that you cant polish turds

No, but you can roll them in glitter.

Or mould it.

Once when working as a baker I kneaded a poo, is that the same thing?

huw wrote:

The Boss wrote:

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:I reckon he'd have the Bronze Bomber, Deontay Wilder a world champion no doubt.

There is a saying that you cant polish turds

No, but you can roll them in glitter.

Or mould it.

Once when working as a baker I kneaded a poo, is that the same thing?

No need to be fecesious, Tino!

88Chris05 wrote:No need to be fecesious, Tino!

as full of sshitt as ever chris

Why do you pooh-pooh every comment I post, Shah?

88Chris05 wrote:Why do you pooh-pooh every comment I post, Shah?

For your own sake dear chum, because the Poopie might hit the fan and herman is angry enough as it is

Sorry Tino, crap joke.

huw wrote:Sorry Tino, crap joke.

Subtle, huw. Very subtle.

This is a bit random but hey ho, it has triggered a memory (and it is Friday). Anyway, a bloke I went to school with used to do massive turds for someone of quite a slight frame. After doing his business, he used to climb out of the locked cubicle then clean up in the one next door. The sole purpose of this was so his mates could pop in and admire the uncorrupted deposit. They would often sit well proud of the waterline much like a fisherman's float