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Post by Shot 21 LCFC Tue 30 Apr 2013, 3:13 pm

Ok this is the thread to post your controversial film views. You know the ones that make nearly everyone look at you in shock and disbelief. Things such as:

"I never really liked this classic film"
"I actually preferred the sequel / remake over the original"
"I always liked that film even though everyone else seemed to hate it"

I will get the ball rolling: I actually think Deep Blue Sea is a better film than Jaws...

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Post by Galted Tue 30 Apr 2013, 3:23 pm

Shot 21 LCFC wrote:
I will get the ball rolling: I actually think Deep Blue Sea is a better film than Jaws...

There's a difference between "controversial" and "scandalous".
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Post by Galted Tue 30 Apr 2013, 3:25 pm

Bridesmaids & the two Hangover films are absolute rubbish.
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Post by Rowley Tue 30 Apr 2013, 3:32 pm

Galted wrote:
Shot 21 LCFC wrote:
I will get the ball rolling: I actually think Deep Blue Sea is a better film than Jaws...

There's a difference between "controversial" and "scandalous".

I think Keanu Reeves is a better actor than Brando. I think Police Academy six is funnier than Airplane. I think Seagal should have won the best oscar actor for Hard To Kill. I think the Italian Job remake is better than the original. I think the last three Star wars films are better than the first three.

(I didn't want to be left out)

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Post by Fists of Fury Tue 30 Apr 2013, 3:37 pm

Jeff, agree with you re: Star wars.

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Post by 88Chris05 Tue 30 Apr 2013, 3:39 pm

At the risk of upsetting Rowley (again!), my own controversial film view has always been that The Godfather is fairly overrated by the masses. Good film, don't get me wrong, but I've never quite figured out how it's become quite so revered.
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Post by Stella Tue 30 Apr 2013, 3:40 pm

Galted wrote:
Shot 21 LCFC wrote:
I will get the ball rolling: I actually think Deep Blue Sea is a better film than Jaws...

There's a difference between "controversial" and "scandalous".

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Post by Rowley Tue 30 Apr 2013, 3:42 pm

Not sure if this is controversial but the Lord of the Rings Trilogy bored me to tears, over long and very dull.

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Post by Stella Tue 30 Apr 2013, 3:43 pm

De-Niro is overrated as an actor, as is Eastwood as a director.
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Post by The Womble Tue 30 Apr 2013, 3:47 pm

Rowley wrote:Not sure if this is controversial but the Lord of the Rings Trilogy bored me to tears, over long and very dull.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Tue 30 Apr 2013, 3:49 pm

Hugh Jackman is a tw*t.

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Post by Stella Tue 30 Apr 2013, 3:50 pm

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:Hugh Jackman is a tw*t.

A pretty decent batsman though.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 30 Apr 2013, 3:51 pm

The chainsaw massacre
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A cheaply made, boring, poorly acted movie.....devoid of any interesting characters that gets cult status just because of the chainsaw and the mask of flesh............

Bladerunner
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Incomprehensibly tepid movie that relies on visuals and a stirring soundtrack to hide it's shallow plot and uninteresting characters............

Hollow and mainly dull...........liked by many because because it's hip to like it!!!!!!!!!

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Post by The Womble Tue 30 Apr 2013, 3:51 pm

Will Ferrell is not that funny and has only made 1 good film, Elf.

Vince Vaughan is not funny at all.

The Shawshank Redemption is cack.

Christopher Nolan's Batman series is not the be all and end all that some people make out. Some folk think they are the greatest things ever put on film. They're not.

Tom Cruise can't act.

Angelina Jolie is definitely not that attractive.
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Post by 88Chris05 Tue 30 Apr 2013, 4:03 pm

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:Hugh Jackman is a tw*t.

I agree with this wholeheartedly, purely because my misses fancies him.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 30 Apr 2013, 4:04 pm

Bet you mrs fantasises a lot...

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Tue 30 Apr 2013, 4:05 pm

88Chris05 wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:Hugh Jackman is a tw*t.

I agree with this wholeheartedly, purely because my misses fancies him.

So does mine. But that isn't the primary reason. I won't bore you with the details, just trust me on this one, Chris.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 30 Apr 2013, 4:08 pm

My Mrs doesn't fancy him.............She just has eyes for me..........

Because I'm a real man..

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Post by 88Chris05 Tue 30 Apr 2013, 4:11 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:My Mrs doesn't fancy him.............She just has eyes for me..........

Severely crossed ones, I imagine.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 30 Apr 2013, 4:12 pm

Anybody that likes foreign movies with subtitles doesn't really like foreign movies with subtitles.....He's pathetically trying to convince himself he's cultured and a cut above the normal viewer and sees more in films both artistically and creatively than ordinary Joe..

When in reality he's a d******d..

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 30 Apr 2013, 4:15 pm

88Chris05 wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:My Mrs doesn't fancy him.............She just has eyes for me..........

Severely crossed ones, I imagine.

Be the only way she ever looked at you twice!! Cool thumbsup

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Post by dummy_half Tue 30 Apr 2013, 4:30 pm

crazygangwomble wrote:Will Ferrell is not that funny and has only made 1 good film, Elf.

Vince Vaughan is not funny at all.

The Shawshank Redemption is cack.

Christopher Nolan's Batman series is not the be all and end all that some people make out. Some folk think they are the greatest things ever put on film. They're not.

Tom Cruise can't act.

Angelina Jolie is definitely not that attractive.

Disagree about Shawshank (excellent film, with two of the best acting performances of the last 20 years), but the only other thing I'd disagree with is the suggestion that Will Ferrell has ever been funny.

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Post by Stella Tue 30 Apr 2013, 4:40 pm

Shawshank is an excellent film. Would add that 'Elf' is as well.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Tue 30 Apr 2013, 4:55 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Anybody that likes foreign movies with subtitles doesn't really like foreign movies with subtitles.....He's pathetically trying to convince himself he's cultured and a cut above the normal viewer and sees more in films both artistically and creatively than ordinary Joe..

When in reality he's a d******d..

I know you're trying to get bites Beefcake but even by your standards that is a monumentally stupid post.

There are masses of great films that are subtitled. You should try one or two. City of God or City of Life and Death would be a start.

Although you being a rather simple American, you almost certainly can't cope with reading and watching at the same time.

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Post by westisbest Tue 30 Apr 2013, 4:57 pm

Thought Avatar was dreadfull.

Think the Rock is a good actor.
Thought RHW did a good job in Transformers 3


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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 30 Apr 2013, 5:23 pm

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Anybody that likes foreign movies with subtitles doesn't really like foreign movies with subtitles.....He's pathetically trying to convince himself he's cultured and a cut above the normal viewer and sees more in films both artistically and creatively than ordinary Joe..

When in reality he's a d******d..

I know you're trying to get bites Beefcake but even by your standards that is a monumentally stupid post.

There are masses of great films that are subtitled. You should try one or two. City of God or City of Life and Death would be a start.

Although you being a rather simple American, you almost certainly can't cope with reading and watching at the same time.

Ouch........

Mate you pick the exceptions to the rule...Go and spank your kids.

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Post by Galted Tue 30 Apr 2013, 7:15 pm

Driving Miss Daisy is good w**k material.
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Post by Guest Tue 30 Apr 2013, 7:30 pm

I haven't seen deep blue sea and still believe you that it's better than jaws because jaws is rubbish

On the whole the horror genre is also rubbish

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 30 Apr 2013, 9:17 pm

gazzyD wrote:I haven't seen deep blue sea and still believe you that it's better than jaws because jaws is rubbish

On the whole the horror genre is also rubbish

In the minority there Mate...but good luck to you.

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Post by Derbyblue Tue 30 Apr 2013, 10:39 pm

gazzyD wrote:On the whole the horror genre is also rubbish
I agree with that, I don't really see the appeal of the genre. Also they often have those stupid advertising lines like "You won't sleep tonight/for weeks" surely that's just a warning to not bother seeing it?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 30 Apr 2013, 10:55 pm

Nothing like generalisation is there...

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Post by Derbyblue Tue 30 Apr 2013, 11:04 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Nothing like generalisation is there...
Clearly not:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Anybody that likes foreign movies with subtitles doesn't really like foreign movies with subtitles.....He's pathetically trying to convince himself he's cultured and a cut above the normal viewer and sees more in films both artistically and creatively than ordinary Joe..

When in reality he's a d******d..

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 30 Apr 2013, 11:08 pm

Yes but I've seen subtitled films a plenty especially in the horror genre....... enough to generalise..

You guys hate horror movies, don't watch them, and know all about them...

"You won't sleep tonight"....Please tell me the horror movies you're referring to with that tagline..



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Post by Derbyblue Tue 30 Apr 2013, 11:19 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Yes but I've seen subtitled films a plenty especially in the horror genre....... enough to generalise..

You guys hate horror movies, don't watch them, and know all about them...

"You won't sleep tonight"....Please tell me the horror movies you're referring to with that tagline..

And I've sat through enough horror films to know that I dislike them it's just my opinion (which I gave without insulting everybody who does like them) and I never claimed to know all about horror films. I'll try to remember the specific one but I'll admit that was a generalisation based upon probably one or two trailers, hopefully you are able to understand that as I'm not a fan of the genre I don't have a perfect knowledge of every films taglines...

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Post by Derbyblue Tue 30 Apr 2013, 11:33 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:"You won't sleep tonight"....Please tell me the horror movies you're referring to with that tagline..
Well after a quick search I'll admit it wasn't the film I thought of though a Nightmare on Elm Street film did have something very similiar 'Never Sleep Again', anyway it's time for me to go to sleep I'll leave you to continue allowing one rule for yourself and one for everybody else.

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Post by Guest Wed 01 May 2013, 1:19 am

My reasons for not liking horror are pretty straight forward

With regards to those that fall in the slasher category, I don't particularly find it very entertaining watching people get murdered in a variety of ways.

As for the other horrors were things go bump in the night it's all been done before, the jump scenes are all tried and tested techniques that you can see a mile off, and now because of the advertising that go into a movies release, half the scare moments are in the trailer so you're expecting them anyway

I'm not gonna bash people who like them, it's each to their own, they're just not my cup of tea

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Post by Shot 21 LCFC Wed 01 May 2013, 9:45 am

The Back To The Future films werent all that great IMO. Dont get me wrong, Im not saying they are bad films, but not classics in my eyes. I dont own any of them on DVD and wont exactly go out of my way to watch them.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 01 May 2013, 10:00 am

gazzyD wrote:My reasons for not liking horror are pretty straight forward

With regards to those that fall in the slasher category, I don't particularly find it very entertaining watching people get murdered in a variety of ways.

As for the other horrors were things go bump in the night it's all been done before, the jump scenes are all tried and tested techniques that you can see a mile off, and now because of the advertising that go into a movies release, half the scare moments are in the trailer so you're expecting them anyway

I'm not gonna bash people who like them, it's each to their own, they're just not my cup of tea

Fair enough...............

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Post by Mike Selig Wed 01 May 2013, 10:08 am

I think Tom Cruise is a pretty good actor TBH. Sure he's been typecast a lot recently, but in the past he's played quite a range of different roles and mostly been good. Tom Cruise's personal views of course I have no time for.

I still think Alien 3 is the best Alien film.

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Post by Galted Wed 01 May 2013, 10:17 am

Mike Selig wrote:I think Tom Cruise is a pretty good actor TBH. Sure he's been typecast a lot recently, but in the past he's played quite a range of different roles and mostly been good. Tom Cruise's personal views of course I have no time for.

I still think Alien 3 is the best Alien film.

Sums him up pretty accurately, he's been good or, at the very least, adequate in every film I've seen him in (especially Magnolia & Born on the Fourth of July). Unfortunately, he has a habit of choosing unchallenging roles in blockbusters. Agree about his personal views, he gives me the creeps.
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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Wed 01 May 2013, 10:24 am

Mike Selig wrote:

I still think Alien 3 is the best Alien film.

I am actually pretty close to agreeing with you on that, Mike. Alien just edges it for me but Alien 3 is a seriously good film that doesn't get enough consideration. It is dark and genuinely claustrophobic like the original and it has some excellent characters in it, particularly Dillon who is played brilliantly by Charles S. Dutton. Superb performance of menace and likeability in almost equal measures.

Aliens has some good performances (Michael Biehn, Bill Paxton and Lance Henriksen) and one or two iconic scenes but is essentially just a space based shoot em up and could have been so much more.

The less said about Resurrection the better.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 01 May 2013, 10:27 am

Geez..........I thought it was dreadful....................

Tell me a character you gave two craps about....the movie was so dark you hardly saw any killing....... and where was the atmosphere...

Each to their own but.........

1. Alien
2. Aliens..............The rest were garbage.

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Post by Rowley Wed 01 May 2013, 10:27 am

Which one is Brian Glover in, have not seen any of them but that is my favourite.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Wed 01 May 2013, 10:28 am

Rowley wrote:Which one is Brian Glover in, have not seen any of them but that is my favourite.

Alien 3, Jeffrey. Good choice.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 01 May 2013, 10:29 am

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
Rowley wrote:Which one is Brian Glover in, have not seen any of them but that is my favourite.

Alien 3, Jeffrey. Good choice.
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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Wed 01 May 2013, 10:30 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

Tell me a character you gave two craps about.


I gave you a character in my post. But that would involve.............you.................actually being..........able to comprehend something.....................you are............reading...........................

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 01 May 2013, 10:33 am

If you care about rapists..... Cool

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Wed 01 May 2013, 10:34 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:If you care about rapists..... Cool

No, but I am bright enough to grasp the concept that it was a film played by actors and not a documentary.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 01 May 2013, 10:35 am

He was playing a r***ist right?? Did you grasp that..

Not meant to be likeable.........But fairplay!!

Aliens 3 is rightly p****d on even the director disowned it!!

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Wed 01 May 2013, 10:45 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:He was playing a r***ist right?? Did you grasp that..

Not meant to be likeable.........But fairplay!!

Aliens 3 is rightly p****d on even the director disowned it!!

His character is far more subtle that than. His desire to repent is pretty easy to spot and his selfless act at the end is a great scene. He got the peace he was looking for and gave Ripley a shot at surviving. What is not to like about that.

So what if the director didn't like it. I didn't sit on his lap and watch it. I watched it myself and formed my own opinion. Perhaps you need babysitting through films but I don't.

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