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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:11 pm

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Jayawardene does bugger all but scratch around for 18 balls looking horribly out of form, then comes down the track and smacks the bowler straight over his head for a six. Class!

Ball again. Jesus umpires, get on with it
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Post by Mike Selig Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:05 am

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Duty281 wrote:I hope Swann isn't playing tomorrow. Keep him fresh for the far more important Ashes series that's coming up. The weather doesn't look too promising for either semi-final I have to say.
what if he slips on the wet  in his bathroom  laughinglaughing
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Lolz that actually made me laugh.

I think England's caution with Swann does indicate where they feel their priorities lie - fair enough maybe, but more understandable if it was his previously troublesome elbow. As far as I understand the current niggle is a calf strain which has not exactly been a recurring problem, and is a minimal relapse risk for an spin bowler who won't spend much time in the outfield.

As things stand, it's either more serious than England are letting on (which is possible - don't want to give the Aussies a boost etc.) or it is just a niggle and they're being hyper-careful (in which case he won't play the as yet hypothetical final).

Finn reversed it plenty in India, so not sure the theory about Bresnan reversing it holds much. I think it's more likely a combination of his batting skills (which is stupid) and the thought that he is more effective on slow wickets than Finn (which has merit, but is IMO misplaced) that has given him the nod so far. I also think he is probably more of a death bowling option than Finn.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:08 am

Based on how Bresnan has bowled at the death so far, I'm better death bowling option than him. Seems to be intent on feeding the batsmen length
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Post by hodge Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:56 am

Agree, Bresnan can't be allowed to continue at the death.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:56 am

Some good news, weather should be fine throughout today
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Post by KP_fan Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:08 am

Olly wrote:Some good news, weather should be fine throughout today
yes that's good news for england as SA side composition is more suited to handle shortened T20 type games
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Post by GSC Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:54 am

Steyn out
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Post by liverbnz Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:09 am

So Cook decides to bowl first at the Oval, brave decision.

Bresnan and Swann are out, Finn and Tredwell deputise.

SA are without 4 heavyweights in Steyn, Morkel, Kalis and Smith so England mus consider themselves strong favourites.

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Post by KP_fan Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:15 am

250 would be a score that if SA could get to...would test England under the pressure of elimination.
It is always a big advantage to have runs on the board and let the threat of elimination work on the opponent.
 
and when chasing Morgan and Butler need to deliver their dues now......haven't done anything meaningful in the tournament so far.
 
In fact I have never seen Butler do anything meaningful...and Morgan it seems left his electric form back at the IPL
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Post by kingraf Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:20 am

No Steyn, its over already! Must be noted though that Chris Morris has played really well for a debutant, Tsotsobe has come back from a horrid first game to bowl well. JP has been a very able spinner. McLaren has probably been our top player. But Kleinveldt is the weak link for my money.
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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:21 am

Ya it is a difficult decision from cook. But SA pace attack without steyn seems bit weak than their opposition..first spell from Jimmy would be impotant..
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Post by GSC Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:29 am

Conditions suit us first up so bowling makes sense.
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Post by Duty281 Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:32 am

The weather's good, the selection is right, we've won the toss, and we're at home. I'm looking for a very, very good result from England today.

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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:34 am

Rory Kleinveldt was named Steyn's replacement. In the first game against India he was hapless against all indian batsman and went for 81 runs in his full quota. In the last two match played at Oval score was easily chased, and that too the pace attack of SA is weak. So from here I see a victory for England but still their slow batting from top order and lower middle order's failure to accelerate is a problem. A score between 280-290 is better to defend.
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Post by GSC Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:36 am

Great start for England as Jimmy removes Ingram for a duck
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Post by Duty281 Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:36 am

1/1. Jimmy wastes no time.

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Post by alfie Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:37 am

Quick breakthrough !   

Will forgive Jimmy for the two wides with the wicket of Ingram Very Happy

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Post by Duty281 Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:39 am

Yahoo 

Amla gone! 4/2, Finn strikes!


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Post by GSC Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:40 am

Finn removes Amla on a ball he tries to leave but nicks.

Good catch from Buttler
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Post by alfie Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:41 am

And giving Finn the new ball pays off !

Amla a big wicket ...excellent catch Butler clap

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Post by msp83 Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:42 am

liverbnz wrote:So Cook decides to bowl first at the Oval, brave decision.

Bresnan and Swann are out, Finn and Tredwell deputise.

SA are without 4 heavyweights in Steyn, Morkel, Kalis and Smith so England mus consider themselves strong favourites.
Finn rightly comes back to take his due place, Tredwell deputizing for the injured Swann!. I Really don't like the notion that Finn could be a replacement for a worse option.
Early wicket from Anderson enhances England's advantage, they had a boost before the toss when Dale Steyn was ruled out. And England have picked a better team as well with Finn in it.

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Post by msp83 Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:43 am

Finn making a massive early impact, he gets Hashim Amla!!!. England firmly in the driving seat already.

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Post by GSC Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:44 am

Great ball from Jimmy. Peterson struggling with late movement.
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Post by NickisBHAFC Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:44 am

WHAT AN AMAZING START!!!!!!

2 huge huge wickets. But the danger man in red, Amla gone. Superb start by Jimmy and Finn. 

Keep it up lads!!!

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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:45 am

Amla gone. SA in big trouble.
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Post by GSC Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:46 am

Long way to go yet. Important Finn and Broad help Jimmy prise out a few more.
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Post by GSC Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:48 am

Bit wayward in this over Finn.
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Post by msp83 Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:51 am

AB de Villiers is holding himself back. First Robin Peterson was promoted to 3, and Faf du Plessis in at 4.

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Post by Hoggy_Bear Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:52 am

6 runs of Finn's over.
Bring back Bresnan!!

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Post by Duty281 Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:57 am

Runs starting to leak - 3 consecutive boundaries.

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Post by GSC Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:59 am

Not the best over Finns ever bowled. Looking a bit wayward this morning
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Post by alfie Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:02 am

That is what you'll get with Finn , though.   Sometimes he will go for runs...
But he is a wicket taker.

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Post by msp83 Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:05 am

Dropped, Bell dropping Robby P.

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Post by alfie Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:05 am

That isn't a dropped catch.

That is a boundary saved.

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Post by KP_fan Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:06 am

england removed one weak link in Bresnan.....and Finn makes a differnce.
SA has a lot of depth in their batting.......with Miller, ABDV and JPD as 3 gamechangers still to come
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Post by msp83 Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:06 am

Peterson has done much of the scoring. He has scored 27 of the 32 runs that South Africa have scored so far. He's living a bit dangerously in this over from Broad.

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Post by Hoggy_Bear Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:08 am

Good start for England, but SA getting on top now.

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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:08 am

FDP still needed to fire. Only 1 in the partnership of 29 from him.
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Post by Duty281 Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:12 am

38/2 after 9 overs. England might have to be a wary of Peterson - he's very quick out of the blocks.

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Post by alfie Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:12 am

Think some Finn fans are being a bit unfair to Bresnan.  He has played his part in getting into this semi.

Yes he got hammered at the death the other night , and his bowling has been a bit variable . But he was good against Australia , took important wickets against NZ...I am quite happy to see Finn picked today , reckon this pitch might suit him ; but let us not go overboard rubbishing Bresnan.  He might have enjoyed a bit of early movement here too...

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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:17 am

alfie wrote:Think some Finn fans are being a bit unfair to Bresnan.  He has played his part in getting into this semi.

Yes he got hammered at the death the other night , and his bowling has been a bit variable . But he was good against Australia , took important wickets against NZ...I am quite happy to see Finn picked today , reckon this pitch might suit him ; but let us not go overboard rubbishing Bresnan.  He might have enjoyed a bit of early movement here too...


Agree with you alfie. He can bat also lower down the order. Every day is not the same. Bit unfortunate for him.
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Post by alfie Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:18 am

Run rate is healthy enough , early wickets aside...

England could do with grabbing another one here or they might still end up chasing quite lot of runs.

Will be interesting to see how the spinners go on this.

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Post by GSC Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:21 am

Jimmy gets Peterson LBW
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Post by Duty281 Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:21 am

Jimmy, the player of the tournament thus far, gets the big wicket of Peterson! 45/3. Yahoo

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Post by GSC Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:22 am

Peterson walks eventually, 3 down
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Post by alfie Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:22 am

Magnificent bowling from Anderson !

What an over clap


Works Peterson over and sends him on his way with a peach thumbsup

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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:22 am

Peterson Gone!!!!!!! SA in big problem.
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Post by NickisBHAFC Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:23 am

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Peterson what a mug!!!! Superb delivery from Jimmy. Important though, our bowlers continue to keep the pressure up on the SA Batsman. JA will finish in a bit and we will save his last few overs till the end. Spin soon i recon.

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Post by GSC Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:23 am

Needed that. Got through the PP without any big damage, now they need to pick off a couple more.
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Post by msp83 Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:24 am

South Africa are 3 down, Robin Peterson's chancy but enterprising innings over. AB getting a good first ball from Jimmy Anderson. South Africa 45-3.

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Post by Duty281 Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:24 am

Fantastic bowling by Anderson in that over. On his day, there's no one as talented as him in the world.

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