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Post by hampo17 Sat 04 Jan 2014, 7:01 pm

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There's whispers on social media that David Haye may be getting a shot at the WBC title, I expect Strongys head to explode Wink

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Post by Guest Mon 06 Jan 2014, 11:11 am

Strongback wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
People who shrug their shoulders at a person dragging the sport further into the gutter shouldn't be surprised or complain when they get very short changed by a fighter.
And people with zero influence in the sport shouldn't be surprised when nothing changes and the best they can hope for is to one day be considered a sad obsessed stalkerish little w*nker.

Congratulations by the way, you sad obsessed stalkerish little w*nker.

Just to save you time responding, I've done it for you "Blah blah blah David Haye (followed by feversh anti-Haye angry w*ank) blah blah white supremecists/Nazis (followed by feverish self righteous indignation and another angry w*nk despite the fact you don't know it's THRASH metal not TRASH) and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah (for about an hour)

To save a day of everyone's life (although I'm sure they enjoy watching you get humiliated as much as I enjoy humiliating you) I'll say now that I haven't got time to respond lad, as I'm too busy indulging in my passion for conjoined twin animal amputee dwarf porn

It's all about priorities........

The only person getting angry around here is you. You are also the man who fires personal insults around like confetti.

That might be due to you spending all those lonely nights in your parents box room head banging and playing air guitar, particularly given you were pushing 40 at the time.
Not done in anger though son, I'm generally chuckling when I do it...mind you, where you're concerned it's easy as you're such a massive figure of fun on the boards, I'm generally laughing because you've already humiliated yourself to such a degree you've decided to come out with some nonsense in order to deflect attention away from the ar$e kicking you've been given. I've already kicked your butt the length and breadth of the internet this year and it's not even a week old. Just imagine how much of a **** you're going to be by April.

As for lonely nights spent headbanging and playing air guitar, you've couldn't be further from the truth...I also have an air band, air audience and air groupies. \m/\m/

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Post by Boxtthis Mon 06 Jan 2014, 12:17 pm

Back to the topic at hand.....it seems clear that Haye has pulled a fast one here. The convenience of the misdiagnosed severity of the injury coupled with the opportunity to fight for the WBC belt is just too much.

He might not have said he was retiring, but he did imply the injury was very, very serious.

I'm not entirely sure what there is to argue about now, as this incident, coupled with a few others in the past pretty much confirms that Haye is a bit of a toe rag, is prone to bullsh!tting everyone, and generally does not care for anyone but himself. Can't say it's much of a surprise.

He's let fans down with this behaviour, no doubts about that. I wouldn't buy tickets to any of his fights considering his track record. But, I'll still watch his fights, and be excited to do so.

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Post by Strongback Mon 06 Jan 2014, 12:20 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
Strongback wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
People who shrug their shoulders at a person dragging the sport further into the gutter shouldn't be surprised or complain when they get very short changed by a fighter.
And people with zero influence in the sport shouldn't be surprised when nothing changes and the best they can hope for is to one day be considered a sad obsessed stalkerish little w*nker.

Congratulations by the way, you sad obsessed stalkerish little w*nker.

Just to save you time responding, I've done it for you "Blah blah blah David Haye (followed by feversh anti-Haye angry w*ank) blah blah white supremecists/Nazis (followed by feverish self righteous indignation and another angry w*nk despite the fact you don't know it's THRASH metal not TRASH) and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah (for about an hour)

To save a day of everyone's life (although I'm sure they enjoy watching you get humiliated as much as I enjoy humiliating you) I'll say now that I haven't got time to respond lad, as I'm too busy indulging in my passion for conjoined twin animal amputee dwarf porn

It's all about priorities........

The only person getting angry around here is you. You are also the man who fires personal insults around like confetti.

That might be due to you spending all those lonely nights in your parents box room head banging and playing air guitar, particularly given you were pushing 40 at the time.
Not done in anger though son, I'm generally chuckling when I do it...mind you, where you're concerned it's easy as you're such a massive figure of fun on the boards, I'm generally laughing because you've already humiliated yourself to such a degree you've decided to come out with some nonsense in order to deflect attention away from the ar$e kicking you've been given. I've already kicked your butt the length and breadth of the internet this year and it's not even a week old. Just imagine how much of a **** you're going to be by April.

As for lonely nights spent headbanging and playing air guitar, you've couldn't be further from the truth...I also have an air band, air audience and air groupies. \m/\m/


Do you call an arse kicking you going on about Fury pulling out of fights when he never signed a contract. That was a good one.

You saying you kick my backside means nothing coming from you. You're as predictable as night follows day. All you have is waffle.

Anyway as it turns out, again, I was right about Have. 6 weeks from a career ending injury to back in training for a crack at the WBC world title.

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Post by Guest Mon 06 Jan 2014, 12:55 pm

Strongback wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
Strongback wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
People who shrug their shoulders at a person dragging the sport further into the gutter shouldn't be surprised or complain when they get very short changed by a fighter.
And people with zero influence in the sport shouldn't be surprised when nothing changes and the best they can hope for is to one day be considered a sad obsessed stalkerish little w*nker.

Congratulations by the way, you sad obsessed stalkerish little w*nker.

Just to save you time responding, I've done it for you "Blah blah blah David Haye (followed by feversh anti-Haye angry w*ank) blah blah white supremecists/Nazis (followed by feverish self righteous indignation and another angry w*nk despite the fact you don't know it's THRASH metal not TRASH) and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah (for about an hour)

To save a day of everyone's life (although I'm sure they enjoy watching you get humiliated as much as I enjoy humiliating you) I'll say now that I haven't got time to respond lad, as I'm too busy indulging in my passion for conjoined twin animal amputee dwarf porn

It's all about priorities........

The only person getting angry around here is you. You are also the man who fires personal insults around like confetti.

That might be due to you spending all those lonely nights in your parents box room head banging and playing air guitar, particularly given you were pushing 40 at the time.
Not done in anger though son, I'm generally chuckling when I do it...mind you, where you're concerned it's easy as you're such a massive figure of fun on the boards, I'm generally laughing because you've already humiliated yourself to such a degree you've decided to come out with some nonsense in order to deflect attention away from the ar$e kicking you've been given. I've already kicked your butt the length and breadth of the internet this year and it's not even a week old. Just imagine how much of a **** you're going to be by April.

As for lonely nights spent headbanging and playing air guitar, you've couldn't be further from the truth...I also have an air band, air audience and air groupies. \m/\m/


Do you call an arse kicking you going on about Fury pulling out of fights when he never signed a contract. That was a good one.

You saying you kick my backside means nothing coming from you. You're as predictable as night follows day. All you have is waffle.

Anyway as it turns out, again, I was right about Have.  6 weeks from a career ending injury to back in training for a crack at the WBC world title.
Fury is as much a bottler as you accuse Haye of being...whether it's pulling out of contracts, withdrawing from purse bids, giving up titles or basicically going for a massive pay day at the expense of a World title eliminator. Neither of them has covered themselves in glory of late yet you seem determined to insist that Haye is the only won doing wrong. You've already been proved to be wrong re the retirement of Haye as (drumroll) he never actually retired unlike your boy Tyson who officially stated he was quitting Twitter and boxing (and great loss to both he would have proven to be too!). However, as shortlived as it was, it was genuine (if a tad hasty) unlike Haye. However, your inability to read, coupled with your pathological willingness to ignore the obvious at the expense of furthering your anti-Haye agenda has seen you ridiculed by everyone on the boards and yet you still admit that you're wrong.

Haye never said he was retiring, Haye always stated he wanted a World title shot with the Fury fight being used as a stepping stone towards that aim. It now transpires that after injury (real/faked/serious/minor) Haye's entered a period of training/rehabilitation and stated on a social networking site he'd hoping for a better 2014 than 2013. There's also rumour (but nothing concrete) that Haye is to be offered a shot at the WBC title however, I'm struggling to see where Haye's lied or that you'd done something that would have made Nostrodamus green with envy.

We all know his motives, have known them for years and the fact that Haye's neither confirmed or denied anything doesn't make you some kind of visionary. However, your repeated bleating about it DOES make you a sad obsessed stalkerish little w*nker.

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Post by Lance Mon 06 Jan 2014, 1:28 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
People who shrug their shoulders at a person dragging the sport further into the gutter shouldn't be surprised or complain when they get very short changed by a fighter.
And people with zero influence in the sport shouldn't be surprised when nothing changes and the best they can hope for is to one day be considered a sad obsessed stalkerish little w*nker.

Congratulations by the way, you sad obsessed stalkerish little w*nker.

Just to save you time responding, I've done it for you "Blah blah blah David Haye (followed by feversh anti-Haye angry w*ank) blah blah white supremecists/Nazis (followed by feverish self righteous indignation and another angry w*nk despite the fact you don't know it's THRASH metal not TRASH) and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah (for about an hour)

To save a day of everyone's life (although I'm sure they enjoy watching you get humiliated as much as I enjoy humiliating you) I'll say now that I haven't got time to respond lad, as I'm too busy indulging in my passion for conjoined twin animal amputee dwarf porn

It's all about priorities........

you seem even more obsessed with Haye than Strongy. you two should start your own board

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Post by Guest Mon 06 Jan 2014, 1:46 pm

Lance wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
People who shrug their shoulders at a person dragging the sport further into the gutter shouldn't be surprised or complain when they get very short changed by a fighter.
And people with zero influence in the sport shouldn't be surprised when nothing changes and the best they can hope for is to one day be considered a sad obsessed stalkerish little w*nker.

Congratulations by the way, you sad obsessed stalkerish little w*nker.

Just to save you time responding, I've done it for you "Blah blah blah David Haye (followed by feversh anti-Haye angry w*ank) blah blah white supremecists/Nazis (followed by feverish self righteous indignation and another angry w*nk despite the fact you don't know it's THRASH metal not TRASH) and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah (for about an hour)

To save a day of everyone's life (although I'm sure they enjoy watching you get humiliated as much as I enjoy humiliating you) I'll say now that I haven't got time to respond lad, as I'm too busy indulging in my passion for conjoined twin animal amputee dwarf porn

It's all about priorities........

you seem even more obsessed with Haye than Strongy. you two should start your own board
Not in the slightest dear fellow, just annoys me when folk start making up stuff to advance a claim that no-one's ever disputed or is spurious at best.

"I told you Haye was a fraud" No-one's arguing he's a pain
"Haye's training after a career ending injury" He's rehabbing after an operation - call the police
"He's come out of retirement six weeks after quitting" He never announced he was quitting.


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Post by Seanusarrilius Mon 06 Jan 2014, 1:55 pm

It will be interesting to se who still buys a Haye PPV. A lot of fans have turned against him (rightly or wrongly) after so many aborted fights. My armchair fan mates were slating him over Xmas when we talked boxing.

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Post by catchweight Mon 06 Jan 2014, 2:04 pm

Yeah sure DAVE667. Its not like you are obsessed with Strongback or Haye at all....

For anyone saying that what Haye does is the same as any other boxer, give me a break. There is no other boxer out there that is as flaky as Haye.

Haye will still fight Fury within the next 24 months. Probably after Fury loses his next three fights. And people will still pay for it.

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Post by Guest Mon 06 Jan 2014, 2:17 pm

Seanusarrilius wrote:It will be interesting to se who still buys a Haye PPV. A lot of fans have turned against him (rightly or wrongly) after so many aborted fights. My armchair fan mates were slating him over Xmas when we talked boxing.
It's a bit like footie fans handing back their season tickets...there's always someone ready to jump in and take their place.

Haye fights (like Hatton fights previously) are now viewed as events to be seen at, something to take a pic/video of and put on Facebook to tell your "friends" you were there. The Haye/Chisora fight meant nothing in the grand scheme of the HW division yet it was also seen as one of the best domestic HW dust-up of recent years so as long as he keeps giving people what they want, they'll turn up to watch.

Have to admit that if I had a choice to go back in time and pick between Haye/Chisora and Wlad/Povetkin to be present at, I know which I'd choose

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Post by Boxtthis Mon 06 Jan 2014, 2:27 pm

Strongback wrote:Anyway as it turns out, again, I was right about Haye.  6 weeks from a career ending injury to back in training for a crack at the WBC world title.

As much as I'm really not in to when people get over-attached to commenting on one particular boxer a la SB/Haye, Truss/Floyd, D4/Manny, etc, you've got to give SB his due here. He called this whole thing to be a BS stunt a while back, and, while nothing is certain yet, it's beginning to look like Haye is up to the same type of skullduggery that has cost normal punters a fair whack of cash and caused disappointment to in the past. Not too much to be respected in that type of behaviour if this plays out the way it looks to be playing out. That said, I'll still watch him fight. He's usually entertaining, and a British HW title contender gets a good buzz going about the sport. It'll be one of the few fights that my mates will come to the pub and watch with me.


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Post by Seanusarrilius Mon 06 Jan 2014, 2:29 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
Seanusarrilius wrote:It will be interesting to se who still buys a Haye PPV. A lot of fans have turned against him (rightly or wrongly) after so many aborted fights. My armchair fan mates were slating him over Xmas when we talked boxing.
It's a bit like footie fans handing back their season tickets...there's always someone ready to jump in and take their place.

Haye fights (like Hatton fights previously) are now viewed as events to be seen at, something to take a pic/video of and put on Facebook to tell your "friends" you were there. The Haye/Chisora fight meant nothing in the grand scheme of the HW division yet it was also seen as one of the best domestic HW dust-up of recent years so as long as he keeps giving people what they want, they'll turn up to watch.

Have to admit that if I had a choice to go back in time and pick between Haye/Chisora and Wlad/Povetkin to be present at, I know which I'd choose
Agree with the Wlad v Povetkin comparison, and Haye v Chisora was an excellent event and fight. That said, it's the cancelled fights that may hurt Haye more than anything. If people don't think he will get in the ring, they may not buy tickets. Then again, Haye always sells his fights well with his mouth.
 
Be interesting to see what happens this year.

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Post by Guest Mon 06 Jan 2014, 2:37 pm

Boxtthis wrote:
Strongback wrote:Anyway as it turns out, again, I was right about Haye.  6 weeks from a career ending injury to back in training for a crack at the WBC world title.

As much as I'm really not in to when people get over-attached to commenting on one particular boxer a la SB/Haye, Truss/Floyd, D4/Manny, etc, you've got to give SB his due here. He called this whole thing to be a BS stunt a while back, and, while nothing is certain yet, it's beginning to look like Haye is up to the same type of skullduggery that has cost normal punters a fair whack of cash and caused disappointment to in the past. Not too much to be respected in that type of behaviour if this plays out the way it looks to be playing out. That said, I'll still watch him fight. He's usually entertaining, and a British HW title contender gets a good buzz going about the sport. It'll be one of the few fights that my mates will come to the pub and watch with me.

So what you're suggesting is that Haye has either cancelled a fight and decided to have surgery without knowing that it will be sucessful or that the whole surgery angle is a fake and he's somehow manage to mock up photos of him in a hospital bed and continued to perpetuate this myth by wearing a sling that he doesn't need in order to endure all manner of abuse and make any fighter extremely reluctant to sign for a fight with him just in case he chops a leg off?

You're saying he'd opt for that rather than going through all the sparring for the Tyson Fury fight and the distinct possibility that he earns a share of £5million for one of the easiest nights of his career?

..and people say I'm not right (they only say it once though!)

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Post by Boxtthis Mon 06 Jan 2014, 4:12 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
Boxtthis wrote:
Strongback wrote:Anyway as it turns out, again, I was right about Haye.  6 weeks from a career ending injury to back in training for a crack at the WBC world title.

As much as I'm really not in to when people get over-attached to commenting on one particular boxer a la SB/Haye, Truss/Floyd, D4/Manny, etc, you've got to give SB his due here. He called this whole thing to be a BS stunt a while back, and, while nothing is certain yet, it's beginning to look like Haye is up to the same type of skullduggery that has cost normal punters a fair whack of cash and caused disappointment to in the past. Not too much to be respected in that type of behaviour if this plays out the way it looks to be playing out. That said, I'll still watch him fight. He's usually entertaining, and a British HW title contender gets a good buzz going about the sport. It'll be one of the few fights that my mates will come to the pub and watch with me.

So what you're suggesting is that Haye has either cancelled a fight and decided to have surgery without knowing that it will be sucessful or that the whole surgery angle is a fake and he's somehow manage to mock up photos of him in a hospital bed and continued to perpetuate this myth by wearing a sling that he doesn't need in order to endure all manner of abuse and make any fighter extremely reluctant to sign for a fight with him just in case he chops a leg off?

You're saying he'd opt for that rather than going through all the sparring for the Tyson Fury fight and the distinct possibility that he earns a share of £5million for one of the easiest nights of his career?

..and people say I'm not right (they only say it once though!)

I think you've maybe become a bit too involved in this thread. Losing your cool at times. Talk about putting words in someone else's mouth. Remember, I am not SB, so there's no need to talk to me as if I've been involved in the whole Haye obsession thing.

Haye was clearly injured. What I'm saying is he implied heavily that he had a career-threatening injury. This now looks to be false. Therefore, the whole career-threatening angle was either a hell of a misdiagnosis or was BS from Haye. Now that the WBC opportunity is being talked about, it does look a bit suspect.

Basically, it looks to me like Haye is up to something, and I now don't really believe that he thought his career was over back when he got injured.

I remember having a go at SB for calling BS on the injury 6 weeks back, because I didn't like the thought of someone being dismissive of a career-ending injury. But, it turns out he could well be right. Haye looks as if he'll fight again pretty soon, and his behaviour looks fishy. I wanted to give SB his due on calling this, not get drawn in to yours and his silly little argument.

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Post by catchweight Mon 06 Jan 2014, 4:26 pm

Does anyone remember when he pulled out of the fight with the Eastern European guy and he started going around wearing a cast on his arm for tv appearances? Quite funny.

He should do a few ads for those insurance fraud claims.

I dont think his shoulder injury was as serious as he made out. I think it cropped up during his training for the Fury fight and they felt they wanted to postpone the fight for that reason so they engineered that cut to give them an extra couple of of months. But then decided that with Klitschkos retirement imminent they may as well just get the surgery asap and push on to 2014.

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Post by Boxtthis Mon 06 Jan 2014, 4:31 pm

catchweight wrote:
I dont think his shoulder injury was as serious as he made out. I think it cropped up during his training for the Fury fight and they felt they wanted to postpone the fight for that reason so they engineered that cut to give them an extra couple of of months. But then decided that with Klitschkos retirement imminent they may as well just get the surgery asap and push on to 2014.

This is essentially what I think happened. I don't think for a second that Haye is scared to fight Fury. I think he KOs him to be honest. I just seems that a bit of circumstance, truth, and Haye BS have combined to make Haye think waiting for a possible title shot is a better play. If that is the case, it's fair enough for him to have self-interest, but he doesn't half do it in a slimy way.

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Post by Guest Mon 06 Jan 2014, 4:35 pm

Haye was clearly injured. What I'm saying is he implied heavily that he had a career-threatening injury. This now looks to be false. Therefore, the whole career-threatening angle was either a hell of a misdiagnosis or was BS from Haye. Now that the WBC opportunity is being talked about, it does look a bit suspect.
Some might suggest that says as much about you as it does about Haye. He has an operation and he says that HIS SURGEON told him he might want to consider retirement. However, this surgeon, who let's face it, must have been half decent in order for Haye to allow him to conduct the operation - unless the whole thing was faked, appears to have done his job well and Haye is able to partake in a little bit of light exercise (which I believe would, were he a mere layman) be seen as a natural part of any rehabilitation process. However, because it's David Haye, the whole thing is labelled BS and a scam.

I have to say that, for some of you, it really must be hell walking around without this constant air of negativity, doubt and suspicion all the time. I just hope that, if any of you are fortunate enough to have children, they bear at least some resemblence to you as I can only imagine the conversations you'll be having with your other halves.

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Post by catchweight Mon 06 Jan 2014, 4:37 pm

Yeah there is no way in hell I believe he coincidentally got a cut which postponed the fight. Then during is recovery he coincientally twinged his shoulder and went for a routine check up which coincidentally turned out to be a career threatening injury and coincidentally a day after it was discovered he had already been operated on. And then Klitschko coincidentally retires.

Plus Furys management said all along they would only believe the fight was happening when Haye was in the ring on the night and Haye refused to sign any compensation deal for withdrawals. I think they knew all along there was something dodgy going on with Haye.

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Post by Boxtthis Mon 06 Jan 2014, 4:41 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
Haye was clearly injured. What I'm saying is he implied heavily that he had a career-threatening injury. This now looks to be false. Therefore, the whole career-threatening angle was either a hell of a misdiagnosis or was BS from Haye. Now that the WBC opportunity is being talked about, it does look a bit suspect.
Some might suggest that says as much about you as it does about Haye. He has an operation and he says that HIS SURGEON told him he might want to consider retirement. However, this surgeon, who let's face it, must have been half decent in order for Haye to allow him to conduct the operation - unless the whole thing was faked, appears to have done his job well and Haye is able to partake in a little bit of light exercise (which I believe would, were he a mere layman) be seen as a natural part of any rehabilitation process. However, because it's David Haye, the whole thing is labelled BS and a scam.

I have to say that, for some of you, it really must be hell walking around without this constant air of negativity, doubt and suspicion all the time. I just hope that, if any of you are fortunate enough to have children, they bear at least some resemblence to you as I can only imagine the conversations you'll be having with your other halves.

Well, we'll find out soon enough I suppose. I find it slightly strange that you are so desperate to defend someone that has a noted track record of this kind of thing. The suspicious are hardly baseless, as you try to imply here.

I can tell you're trying to be funny with these little exaggerated analogies and quips, but it's not really doing much for the discussion to be honest.


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Post by Steffan Mon 06 Jan 2014, 4:43 pm

I have never known such man love for a person as DAVE667 has for Haye

Awww I think its sweet  heart

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Post by Strongback Mon 06 Jan 2014, 4:50 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
Haye was clearly injured. What I'm saying is he implied heavily that he had a career-threatening injury. This now looks to be false. Therefore, the whole career-threatening angle was either a hell of a misdiagnosis or was BS from Haye. Now that the WBC opportunity is being talked about, it does look a bit suspect.
Some might suggest that says as much about you as it does about Haye. He has an operation and he says that HIS SURGEON told him he might want to consider retirement. However, this surgeon, who let's face it, must have been half decent in order for Haye to allow him to conduct the operation - unless the whole thing was faked, appears to have done his job well and Haye is able to partake in a little bit of light exercise (which I believe would, were he a mere layman) be seen as a natural part of any rehabilitation process. However, because it's David Haye, the whole thing is labelled BS and a scam.

I have to say that, for some of you, it really must be hell walking around without this constant air of negativity, doubt and suspicion all the time. I just hope that, if any of you are fortunate enough to have children, they bear at least some resemblence to you as I can only imagine the conversations you'll be having with your other halves.

Can't help throwing in an insult at the end I see.

For the record there are no direct quotes from the surgeon, just a press statement released by David Hayes.


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Post by Rowley Mon 06 Jan 2014, 4:57 pm

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I have to say that, for some of you, it really must be hell walking around without this constant air of negativity, doubt and suspicion all the time. .

Aye because you're the dictionary definition of a glass half full type round here Dave, why it has been a good few hours since you have accused someone of being a hype job or accused a user of jumping on a bandwagon.

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Post by Guest Mon 06 Jan 2014, 7:01 pm

I've tried to remain positive Rowley but folk make it so damned difficult even for one with my famed sunny disposition. As for bandwagons, the year's only a week old so I'm waiting for post Xmas euphoria to kick in before people start hitching their trailers hither and thither. I myself will by riding the Erislandy Lara train

STRONGBACK wrote:For the record there are no direct quotes from the surgeon, just a press statement released by David Hayes
Hence the reason I typed this... "He has an operation and he says that HIS SURGEON told him he might want to consider retirement. " I've never stated anything directly attributed to any doctors.
Anyway, I suppose we'll never really know if the injury is real fake, bad luck or conspicuous in it's timing. People will continue to seek to discredit Haye no matter what he does and some will wait to see if he's going to make a concerted effort to win a HW title. If it happens, I'll make an effort to watch it, but not in person as I'm not a real fan.

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Post by WelshDevilRob Mon 06 Jan 2014, 10:49 pm

Stiverne vs Arreola 2 is still in negotiation. Main hurdle seems to be where it will be held. Arreola wants California while Stiverne wants East coast or Canada.

Haye will not be stepping in to replace Arreola. If anything Haye, given this type of injury, won't be ready til the latter part of 2014.

Haye doesn't deserve to fight for the WBC belt due to inactivity.

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Post by Boxtthis Tue 07 Jan 2014, 12:09 am

WelshDevilRob wrote:Stiverne vs Arreola 2 is still in negotiation. Main hurdle seems to be where it will be held. Arreola wants California while Stiverne wants East coast or Canada.

Haye will not be stepping in to replace Arreola. If anything Haye, given this type of injury, won't be ready til the latter part of 2014.

Haye doesn't deserve to fight for the WBC belt due to inactivity.

Yep, you're probably right. Everybody (including myself) getting a bit carried away with the unsubstantiated hypothetical scenarios on this one I think.

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Post by jimdig Tue 07 Jan 2014, 7:08 am

I just don't see the WBC angle for haye, he's not ranked by them. Not saying it's impossible, but don't see the sway that he'd have with them to be put straight in as a title challenger.

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Post by Guest Tue 07 Jan 2014, 10:19 am

Since when did a piddling thing like a ranking get in the way of making a fight...especially when the WBC is concerned.

Appreciate Haye's inactivity should render him ineligible for an immediate title shot but also struggle to see how a 1 round blow out of the dreadfully over-rated Seth Mitchell hands Chris Big Nips an immediate title shot. Mind you, no-one else is doing anything either so they may as well draw names out of a tombola as the proposed HW Super Six style tournament the WBC are looking at has "f*****g disaster" written all over it.

Stiverne vs Arreola 2 is still in negotiation. Main hurdle seems to be where it will be held. Arreola wants California while Stiverne wants East coast or Canada.
Can't see why it matters that much as no bugger will turn out to watch it anyway.

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Post by hazharrison Tue 07 Jan 2014, 10:23 am

jimdig wrote:I just don't see the WBC angle for haye, he's not ranked by them. Not saying it's impossible, but don't see the sway that he'd have with them to be put straight in as a title challenger.

He'd probably generate bigger sanctioning fees than everyone else. That's all the alphabets care about.

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Post by Guest Tue 07 Jan 2014, 10:29 am

hazharrison wrote:
jimdig wrote:I just don't see the WBC angle for haye, he's not ranked by them. Not saying it's impossible, but don't see the sway that he'd have with them to be put straight in as a title challenger.

He'd probably generate bigger sanctioning fees than everyone else. That's all the alphabets care about.

Nail hit firmly on head. The WBC will have seen the money Haye generates and it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they installed Haye as challenger knowing that should he prevail, they can grant Tyson Fury number one contender status thus capitalising on their previous bad blood.

All these people claiming they'll never go see Haye fight again will then sell their gran to see him hopefully get beat in a World title fight even if it's just to say they were there.

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