David Haye

There's whispers on social media that David Haye may be getting a shot at the WBC title, I expect Strongys head to explode

The former world cruiserweight and heavyweight champion put a photo of himself training on Twitter and said: “First session of the year, 2014 is going to be my healthiest, let’s start as we mean to go on.”

Haye came out of a so-called retirement in 2012 to stop Dereck Chisora in the fifth round, and was then set to take on Manuel Charr before pulling out with an injured left hand.

He announced a ‘Battle of Britain’ with Tyson Fury in September, before suffering a deep cut above the eye in sparring one week before it. After that bout was re-set for this February, Haye had shoulder surgery in November and ‘retired’ again.

But he has now been linked with another world-title shot, against Canadian Bermane Stiverne.

Surprise surprise, the biggest fraud in boxing. Almost despise him as much as Strongy.

He must have caught wind that Vitali was going to hang up the gloves.

If Floyd can pick and choose when to retire and then come back then no reason why Haye can't. Not the first time a boxer has done it and won't be the last. People need to show their displeasure with footfall...or in his case lack of and ensure they don't bother going to watch his fight in person or on the box.

From a career and selfish point of view he has probably done the 'smart' thing. Fight Stiverne for the title...hope that he comes off the winner then he has either a rematch with Wlad waiting or he can take on Tyson Fury and this time be in the driving seat completely at the negotiation table.

owen10ozzy wrote:If Floyd can pick and choose when to retire and then come back then no reason why Haye can't. Not the first time a boxer has done it and won't be the last. People need to show their displeasure with footfall...or in his case lack of and ensure they don't bother going to watch his fight in person or on the box.

From a career and selfish point of view he has probably done the 'smart' thing. Fight Stiverne for the title...hope that he comes off the winner then he has either a rematch with Wlad waiting or he can take on Tyson Fury and this time be in the driving seat completely at the negotiation table.

Don't agree.

He has messed people around too much. So its ol for him but other people have to see their plans flushed down the toilet. Whats Manuel Charr doing now. Had another crack at making a name for himself when he signed to fight Haye only for Haye to ''pull out''. Fury works hard to get in shape and spends a lot of money doing so and he is bumped by Hyae TWICE.

I know you are a fan of Haye owen but you cannot stick up for the guy he is too unprofessional.

What TV happen to the other thread about this?

This tablet randomly adds TV to most things I write TV.

He has brains to burn, you have to give Haye that. Fury could have pulled this off if he played the game in this shrewd manner. Haye will make an absolute fortune should he fight for and win this belt. So I am sure he won't lose any sleep when people give him a virtual castration about "faking" a shoulder injury.

3fingers wrote:This tablet randomly adds TV to most things I write TV.

Its probably from searching for TV's on those porn sites haha only kiddin!

Are the rumours that stiverne v arreola won't happen? Cause that fight is all over the WBC website.

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:

owen10ozzy wrote:If Floyd can pick and choose when to retire and then come back then no reason why Haye can't. Not the first time a boxer has done it and won't be the last. People need to show their displeasure with footfall...or in his case lack of and ensure they don't bother going to watch his fight in person or on the box.

From a career and selfish point of view he has probably done the 'smart' thing. Fight Stiverne for the title...hope that he comes off the winner then he has either a rematch with Wlad waiting or he can take on Tyson Fury and this time be in the driving seat completely at the negotiation table.

Don't agree.

He has messed people around too much. So its ol for him but other people have to see their plans flushed down the toilet. Whats Manuel Charr doing now. Had another crack at making a name for himself when he signed to fight Haye only for Haye to ''pull out''. Fury works hard to get in shape and spends a lot of money doing so and he is bumped by Hyae TWICE.

I know you are a fan of Haye owen but you cannot stick up for the guy he is too unprofessional.

Not sticking up for him to be honest ONETIME, merely saying that it's all well and good people coming on the thread and slating him, lets see how many of those same people tune in to watch the fight if and when it does go ahead.

Manuel Charr is doing nothing; precisely what he was doing before the fight with Vitali, as for Tyson Fury he got more notoriety from that whole episode than he was ever getting fighting on Channel 5! I don't think it's done him that much harm tbh...except of course keeping him out of action and he could easily have not agreed to the change of date after the first instance...he did so because he was set to lose out on £5 million a payday he isn't going to get for quite some time yet!

That being said David Haye has messed people around and it's for that exact reason I won't tune into any of his fights until he has at least shown some remorse towards the fans that he let down.

But at the same time let's not pretend he is the only one who has ever left the general public feeling shortchanged or indeed a fellow opponent!

The thing is with Haye is, despite what you think of him (and most think he rips of the fans to line his pockets and cherry picks fights more than Floyd) he is an astute business man (for this read complete bar steward who loves money) who has a following of casual fans and lights up the heavyweight division simply because of the two things he genuinely possesses: speed and power.

Exciting KOs sell heavyweight fights. All of Haye's wins bar two have come by KO and one of those was (according to a report I read) simply because he wanted to prove he could do 12 rounds (a landslide against Ismael Abdoul). He knows he has the casual fans' interest and that includes the female fanbase. He knows he can sell fights, despite what the true fan thinks of him. Ergo he is doing everything and anything he can to get that WBC title shot.

As one of the more exciting fighters in the division I believe he's a better choice to fight Stiverne than Arreola who Stiverne has already beaten in an eliminator. It's not an easy fight but one I would be more interested in seeing than a likely repeat of the previous encounter.

owen10ozzy wrote:

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:

owen10ozzy wrote:If Floyd can pick and choose when to retire and then come back then no reason why Haye can't. Not the first time a boxer has done it and won't be the last. People need to show their displeasure with footfall...or in his case lack of and ensure they don't bother going to watch his fight in person or on the box.

From a career and selfish point of view he has probably done the 'smart' thing. Fight Stiverne for the title...hope that he comes off the winner then he has either a rematch with Wlad waiting or he can take on Tyson Fury and this time be in the driving seat completely at the negotiation table.

Don't agree.

He has messed people around too much. So its ol for him but other people have to see their plans flushed down the toilet. Whats Manuel Charr doing now. Had another crack at making a name for himself when he signed to fight Haye only for Haye to ''pull out''. Fury works hard to get in shape and spends a lot of money doing so and he is bumped by Hyae TWICE.

I know you are a fan of Haye owen but you cannot stick up for the guy he is too unprofessional.

Not sticking up for him to be honest ONETIME, merely saying that it's all well and good people coming on the thread and slating him, lets see how many of those same people tune in to watch the fight if and when it does go ahead.

Manuel Charr is doing nothing; precisely what he was doing before the fight with Vitali, as for Tyson Fury he got more notoriety from that whole episode than he was ever getting fighting on Channel 5! I don't think it's done him that much harm tbh...except of course keeping him out of action and he could easily have not agreed to the change of date after the first instance...he did so because he was set to lose out on £5 million a payday he isn't going to get for quite some time yet!

That being said David Haye has messed people around and it's for that exact reason I won't tune into any of his fights until he has at least shown some remorse towards the fans that he let down.

But at the same time let's not pretend he is the only one who has ever left the general public feeling shortchanged or indeed a fellow opponent!

I bought Harrison, Chisora, Charr and Fury tickets....

I personally, will never purchase a ticket or pay PPV to watch him fight again.. Not saying I don't enjoy watching his fights, by all means the Chisora fight was an above average HW fight but I do feel incredibly let down by his actions over the past 9 months. I do feel there is a degree of fraudulent activity going on with regards to him pulling out of fights.

It's not smart, it just causes a lot of fans to turn against him.

That's the point though. He doesn't care. He knows he can get bums on seats because he's "exciting" to the CASUAL fan. And it is they who will buy the fight in their droves.

David Haye has opened a gym here in Dubai called funnliy enough 'Hayemaker Gym' (anyone interested in membership it will set you back a cool £200 per month, i think he's targeting the Corporates).

They were doing a deal in Nov of last year where you could pay £100 per month up front for the full year, considering the gym was not due to open until Jan / Feb this year i made a comment that considering Hayes previous for no shows that could be a risky move.

I then got chatting to his business partner (and apparently good friend), an English guy who you could tell had a few quid about him. He basically said the gym is 100% going ahead and he said that David Haye will fight again this year and the retirement was never permananet, it would be a lie if i said i was remotely surprised that the retirement was anything but temporary.

HOW MANY MORE TIMES??? Haye never said he was retiring, just that surgeons advised it. Your doctor advocating you stop smoking and drinking it doesn't automatically make you a non-smoking teetotaller does it? You have to do something about it as well.

Already kicked STRONGY's butt the length and breadth of the internet over this subject so don't get me started.

why are you getting so angry Dave?

The OP only stated that there are rumours about a WBC title shot. Nothing about Haye retiring or not as the case may be.

If he is in training, its no more or less than most would have suspected.

As for Haye being "unprofessional" and all the malice. In any other walk of life, he most certainly would be viewed as unprofessional. But, this is boxing and fighters frequently use spurious reasons to cancel contracted fights so they can pursue better financial or career options. Haye is no different.

I can understand ATG's grievance though, having bought tickets for the fight not to happen. Sadly, its a business and the only way to stop it happening is to hit them in the pocket and not buy them again, as he says.

Greeting from sunny Gran Canaria. Getting in a spot of winter training.

Nice to know I am being proven right about Have again.

At leat there is one thing we know about Haye and that is its highly unlikely that he's a white suprematist Nazi sympathiser.

Strongy I don't think anybody is that bothered, he's a boxer at the end of the day, hardly impacting on our lives if he retires and then makes a comeback.

It does on Strongbacks, his life revolves around whether David Haye blew his nose and was politically correct with it.

There is a weird fascination with the guy. Reputations die mightily hard. Haye is a exciting and a breath of fresh air in the same way Froch is a humble, grounded, no nonsense individual.

His stunts arent unexpected to anyone who has followed him for any sort of period of time. He is probably the most unreliable boxer out there. You have about a 50/50 chance of a fight going ahead if you buy a ticket and even a smaller chance the fight wont stink.

He wont retire because there is way too much money he can make. Like Audley Harrison its hard getting rid of him because people will keep watching him regardless of how flaky he is or how bad his fights stink.

Its funny because outside of Germany everybody wonders how the heck the Germans can enjoy the Klitschko boringness but outside Britain everybody else probably says the same about Haye.

catchweight wrote:There is a weird fascination with the guy. Reputations die mightily hard. Haye is a exciting and a breath of fresh air in the same way Froch is a humble, grounded, no nonsense individual.

His stunts arent unexpected to anyone who has followed him for any sort of period of time. He is probably the most unreliable boxer out there. You have about a 50/50 chance of a fight going ahead if you buy a ticket and even a smaller chance the fight wont stink.

He wont retire because there is way too much money he can make. Like Audley Harrison its hard getting rid of him because people will keep watching him regardless of how flaky he is or how bad his fights stink.

Its funny because outside of Germany everybody wonders how the heck the Germans can enjoy the Klitschko boringness but outside Britain everybody else probably says the same about Haye.

Haye blew it with the yanks by fighting like a wimp against Wlad.

I believe the Americans refer to Haye supporters as Britards.

Thats where you are wrong , haye has a massive fan base outside Britain especially in Germany , opinion polls show they wanted vitali next fight to be haye and at every klitschko fight/event hes name Is constantly mentioned by german media. As for the yanks , they call all British fans britards especially when hatton had big support over there.
Cant see haye getting wbc shot anyway , simply doesn't box enough and is'nt ranked high enough!

Thats where you are wrong , haye has a massive fan base outside Britain especially in Germany , opinion polls show they wanted vitali next fight to be haye and at every klitschko fight/event hes name Is constantly mentioned by german media. As for the yanks , they call all British fans britards especially when hatton had big support over there.
Cant see haye getting wbc shot anyway , simply doesn't box enough and is'nt ranked high enough!

I would guess that the Germans wanted to see Vitali fight Haye to see Haye get a beating, not because they are fans of him.

Haye is less popular in Germany than Povetkin or Adamek, so lets not exaggerate his appeal. Not that he hasn't done very well for himself. But we do tend to hear the news from our end of things over here.

Haye is a selfish man who looks out for himself. So does pretty much every other fighter and promoter out there. If they weren't interested in making as much money as possible, then you wont have heard of them. Publicity requires investment after all.

don't take it so personally Strongy. Haye is no different to Ricky Hatton.

Hatton had a career.  Haye has done virtually nothing by comparison. He unified at cruiser by beating Mormeck and Enzo.

I have been writing articles condemning Haye since before he was scheduled to fight Wlad and pulled out. I do it because he is a loathsome ba$tard in my view.  At every turn my predictions for Hayes course of action have been proven to be correct.  If he wasn't British he would be vilified on this board.

The fact that some people feel what Have does is OK and make apologies for his behaviour makes me feel sorry for them as as in life they are very misguided in their principles and thinking.

Some people may not realise as they weren't around but I consider I was the first person on the site to identify what Haye and Booth are all about. That why I chuckle now when people say  things like 'we all know what Have is like but that fair because its boxing......blah,blah,blah'.

I have no idea how Have has got as far as he has as his double dealings and underhandedness must be plain to see by everybody at this stage.

Strongy, did Haye steal your lunch money at school or something?

Your antipathy toward him is truly spectacular. I appreciate what he does isn't exactly straight down the line etc. but he isn't the first boxer (and manager/promoter) to play the crowd, make excuses to pull out of fights etc.

If you have "no idea how Haye has got as far as he has" it suggests you are commenting about something you don't have a lot of idea about. He knows what he is doing way better than you. Is that the source of your bitterness?

Give it a break mate. Its boxing. Or are you going to rant about all the theatrics around Floyd "avoiding" Manny or Ward trying to pretend it is UK scoring that leads him to stay in the US? Its all just various shades of the same game.

Happytravelling wrote:Strongy, did Haye steal your lunch money at school or something?

Your antipathy toward him is truly spectacular. I appreciate what he does isn't exactly straight down the line etc. but he isn't the first boxer (and manager/promoter) to play the crowd, make excuses to pull out of fights etc.

If you have "no idea how Haye has got as far as he has" it suggests you are commenting about something you don't have a lot of idea about. He knows what he is doing way better than you. Is that the source of your bitterness?

Give it a break mate. Its boxing. Or are you going to rant about all the theatrics around Floyd "avoiding" Manny or Ward trying to pretend it is UK scoring that leads him to stay in the US? Its all just various shades of the same game.

Thanks for the comment.I had to double check your username as I thought it was a post by Trussy.

For the record I believe Haye has considerably lowered the bar in comparison to what other fighters have done in terms of dirty tricks. The fact some people excuse Hayes behaviour says as much about them as it does about Haye. If Haye wasn't British he would be as disliked around here as Naz was at the last Froch fight.

Peter Fury said Haye and Booths antics were so transparent and seemingly naive that they would be comical if he wasn't on the other side of such a lucrative deal. He did say that in terms of deviousness Haye and booth were like a pair of alter boys compared to some of the people he had encountered in his life.

The problem with Haye is that his ego is telling him he can take a dump on the heads of fans and they are so thick they will keep coming back for more.

DAVE667 wrote:HOW MANY MORE TIMES??? Haye never said he was retiring, just that surgeons advised it. Your doctor advocating you stop smoking and drinking it doesn't automatically make you a non-smoking teetotaller does it? You have to do something about it as well.

Already kicked STRONGY's butt the length and breadth of the internet over this subject so don't get me started.

I had had to go back and look at the press releases for when the injury happned to find out if he actually did say himself that he was now retired, you're right he never actually said that he will retire.  Well i for one was duped into thinking that he had retired, not only was he advised by his surgeon after he was rushed to the surgery ward, he also offered these little titbits:


"The boxing Gods keep hinting that maybe enough is enough and that it's time to finally hang up my gloves."

"But I've been boxing for 23 years now, amateur and pro, and this has clearly taken its toll on my body"

"If I'm now destined to have won the European Championship, the Unified World Cruiserweight Championship and the WBA Heavyweight Championship of the world - with a record of 28 fights, 26 wins, 24 victories coming via knockout, and only two defeats - then so be it.

[i]"The surgery and subsequent results are a bitter pill to swallow because I truly felt I had a lot more to offer,

So yeah you're dead right, he never actually said he was going to retire, BUT, he did make it sound like the injury was so bad that it looked like he would be forced to retire,  reason being in my opinion it would be the only way he could justify pulling out of yet another fight[/i]

Hell of a misdiagnosis if he's already back in the gym.....

seanmichaels wrote:Hell of a misdiagnosis if he's already back in the gym.....

exactly

I don’t know what is worse about all this. Strongy’s ongoing and seemingly relentless ability to rupture a spleen at everything Haye does, or that Haye acting out of self interest or with not a care beyond what is best for him is still considered headline news.

Throughout Haye’s heavyweight career he has done exactly what he considers best for himself at the time. Such trivialities such as the will of the fans or contracts mean little to nothing. He was in negotiation with the Klitschko’s and dumped them the minute the easier route to a title in Valuev became available, he scoffed at the idea of fighting Audley until Sky waved a cheque in front of him, again during this period ignoring the overtures from Vitali. He dismissed Chisora as beneath him until his shameful brawl meant the fight could generate a decent pay day.

In the grand scheme of things over exaggerating the extent of an injury is a reasonably minor offence. Personally I expect little to nothing from Haye and am rarely disappointed by him in that respect.

Got to be honest, I think Haye has treated the Fury's disgracefully, because this is starting to look very strange.  In any walk of life, if you've got a contract, have the decency to uphold it.

Don't follow the story very closely, couldn't be bothered, but can someone explain why a) the fight can't now go ahead, and b) Haye shouldn't compensate Fury? Something in the contract probably but I still don't understand.

Herman, after him pulling out twice am fairly sure Fury and his team would not go near him, only so many times you will allow yourself be messed around and let’s face facts it is too short a career to wait around indefinitely.

Think with regard to the compensation folk were saying Haye insisted on there being no compensation clause in the contract. Given Haye’s willingness to change his plans depending what offers are on the table likely he would not have any such clause in his contracts.

Herman Jaggery wrote:Got to be honest, I think Haye has treated the Fury's disgracefully, because this is starting to look very strange.  In any walk of life, if you've got a contract, have the decency to uphold it.
Don't follow the story very closely, couldn't be bothered, but can someone explain why a) the fight can't now go ahead, and b) Haye shouldn't compensate Fury? Something in the contract probably but I still don't understand.

You might want to mention this to any number of professional footballers and actors who quite regularly seek to renegotiate contracts that have yet to run their course.

Noses out of joint, spleens vented, knickers badly twisted over a boxer doing nothing that hasn't been done before (however frustrating annoying or distasteful) and yet nary an eyebrow raised of the shameful antics of bankers, investors, world leaders etc etc etc (or in other words "the sh!t that really matters)

Number of people with beeding hearts over poor Tyson Fury...yet hasn't young Fury already demonstrated a willingness to avoid a fight with a natural domestic rival (the fact Price was subsequently beaten by Thompson doesn't make Fury a sage, it just means he's missed out on the ooprtunity to rid himself of rival in person and give his credibility a massive shot in the arm). He's also avoided an eliminator with Pulev to take a massive payday (and risk) against Haye and this has all been done for financial gain so unless every other fighter's behaviour is lily white and pristine, I think there are a fair few people who should belt up a bit.

Not defending Haye as I'm as frustrated as others at his reluctance to do things the right way but, as I say, he's not the only fighter at it yet seems to be getting a disproportionate amount of stick for it.

Thanks for that Jeff, one thing I do know is that I will never pay for a Haye fight ever again not that I ever have paid for one, because this one has left a very sour taste.

Herman Jaggery wrote:Got to be honest, I think Haye has treated the Fury's disgracefully, because this is starting to look very strange.  In any walk of life, if you've got a contract, have the decency to uphold it.

Don't follow the story very closely, couldn't be bothered, but can someone explain why a) the fight can't now go ahead, and b) Haye shouldn't compensate Fury? Something in the contract probably but I still don't understand.

There is a long video interview on Youtube were Peter explains his view on what happened. With his lawyer Peter said they looked for a compensation clause but Have refused. Check out the video which should be dated just after the second fight was cancelled.

Great interview that, I must admit I watched it three times. I only wish I could hate David Haye more, because it's hard to believe anyone could have the gall to show such a lack of regard to the fans and his fellow professionals alike. He's gone way down in my estimation. I could do an Adam Booth joke there but I'll refrain.

Just reading through the oft repeated but never dull Jack Johnson article and have noted, amongst other valid points, this one from Rowley

For me nobody is asking Johnson to march on Washington or petition the Senate for the end of the colour line, all anyone expected of him is for him to fight his best available opponents and not be such an objectionable idiot in his dealings with the public.

I see Haye isn't doing anything that hasn't been done for years by fighters. Real crux of the argument is that certain posters simply don't like him and fail imperiously in their efforts to be objective.

DAVE667 wrote:

Herman Jaggery wrote:Got to be honest, I think Haye has treated the Fury's disgracefully, because this is starting to look very strange.  In any walk of life, if you've got a contract, have the decency to uphold it.
Don't follow the story very closely, couldn't be bothered, but can someone explain why a) the fight can't now go ahead, and b) Haye shouldn't compensate Fury? Something in the contract probably but I still don't understand.

You might want to mention this to any number of professional footballers and actors who quite regularly seek to renegotiate contracts that have yet to run their course.

Noses out of joint, spleens vented, knickers badly twisted over a boxer doing nothing that hasn't been done before (however frustrating annoying or distasteful) and yet nary an eyebrow raised of the shameful antics of bankers, investors, world leaders etc etc etc (or in other words "the sh!t that really matters)

Number of people with beeding hearts over poor Tyson Fury...yet hasn't young Fury already demonstrated a willingness to avoid a fight with a natural domestic rival (the fact Price was subsequently beaten by Thompson doesn't make Fury a sage, it just means he's missed out on the ooprtunity to rid himself of rival in person and give his credibility a massive shot in the arm). He's also avoided an eliminator with Pulev to take a massive payday (and risk) against Haye and this has all been done for financial gain so unless every other fighter's behaviour is lily white and pristine, I think there are a fair few people who should belt up a bit.



Not defending Haye as I'm as frustrated as others at his reluctance to do things the right way but, as I say, he's not the only fighter at it yet seems to be getting a disproportionate amount of stick for it.

difference is a footballer pushing for a new contract doesn't affect me directly, his team still turn up to play the match on a Saturday

Hayes shennanigans affect the average joe who invariably ends up out of pocket

I ended up out of pocket as i planned to fly back for the 1st haye v Fury, changed flights etc (at cost) for Haye v Fury II, ended up getting cancelled so come the end of the year i ended up with a flight to the UK thaat i didn't need,


I suggested when asked by my mates wife a weekend away to watch haye fight for her husbands 40th, that also got cancelled and she ended up out of pocket, money she didn't have to lose

I'm sure there are plenty of tales were people have lost money on Hayes cancellations, not once or twice but numerous times

i find it patronising that he apologises to his fans and says its unavoidable but continues to do it, easy answer for me is never plan to attend one of his fights again and on principle i'd never PPV

irishbrads wrote:
I'm sure there are plenty of tales were people have lost money on Hayes cancellations, not once or twice but numerous times

Suspect I might win this particular competition.

irishbrads wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:

Herman Jaggery wrote:Got to be honest, I think Haye has treated the Fury's disgracefully, because this is starting to look very strange.  In any walk of life, if you've got a contract, have the decency to uphold it.
Don't follow the story very closely, couldn't be bothered, but can someone explain why a) the fight can't now go ahead, and b) Haye shouldn't compensate Fury? Something in the contract probably but I still don't understand.

You might want to mention this to any number of professional footballers and actors who quite regularly seek to renegotiate contracts that have yet to run their course.

Noses out of joint, spleens vented, knickers badly twisted over a boxer doing nothing that hasn't been done before (however frustrating annoying or distasteful) and yet nary an eyebrow raised of the shameful antics of bankers, investors, world leaders etc etc etc (or in other words "the sh!t that really matters)

Number of people with beeding hearts over poor Tyson Fury...yet hasn't young Fury already demonstrated a willingness to avoid a fight with a natural domestic rival (the fact Price was subsequently beaten by Thompson doesn't make Fury a sage, it just means he's missed out on the ooprtunity to rid himself of rival in person and give his credibility a massive shot in the arm). He's also avoided an eliminator with Pulev to take a massive payday (and risk) against Haye and this has all been done for financial gain so unless every other fighter's behaviour is lily white and pristine, I think there are a fair few people who should belt up a bit.



Not defending Haye as I'm as frustrated as others at his reluctance to do things the right way but, as I say, he's not the only fighter at it yet seems to be getting a disproportionate amount of stick for it.

difference is a footballer pushing for a new contract doesn't affect me directly, his team still turn up to play the match on a Saturday

Hayes shennanigans affect the average joe who invariably ends up out of pocket

I ended up out of pocket as i planned to fly back for the 1st haye v Fury, changed flights etc (at cost) for Haye v Fury II, ended up getting cancelled so come the end of the year i ended up with a flight to the UK thaat i didn't need,


I suggested when asked by my mates wife a weekend away to watch haye fight for her husbands 40th, that also got cancelled and she ended up out of pocket, money she didn't have to lose

I'm sure there are plenty of tales were people have lost money on Hayes cancellations, not once or twice but numerous times

i find it patronising that he apologises to his fans and says its unavoidable but continues to do it, easy answer for me is never plan to attend one of his fights again and on principle i'd never PPV

At least you've thought about it and decided not to go down the route of arbitrarily hating him because....

Anyway, are Haye fans the only only one who are losing money? What about the Kell Brook fans who've shelled out to watch their man only to end up disappointed? As I recall, at least one of those fights was cancelled due to an injury to Brook yet I'm not seeing anything like the antipathy towards Kell as there is towards Haye.

Rowley wrote:I don’t know what is worse about all this. Strongy’s ongoing and seemingly relentless ability to rupture a spleen at everything Haye does, or that Haye acting out of self interest or with not a care beyond what is best for him is still considered headline news.

Throughout Haye’s heavyweight career he has done exactly what he considers best for himself at the time. Such trivialities such as the will of the fans or contracts mean little to nothing. He was in negotiation with the Klitschko’s and dumped them the minute the easier route to a title in Valuev became available, he scoffed at the idea of fighting Audley until Sky waved a cheque in front of him, again during this period ignoring the overtures from Vitali. He dismissed Chisora as beneath him until his shameful brawl meant the fight could generate a decent pay day.

In the grand scheme of things over exaggerating the extent of an injury is a reasonably minor offence. Personally I expect little to nothing from Haye and am rarely disappointed by him in that respect.

In case anyone is wondering about my spleen there are no problems to report to date.

In terms of Haye's antics being relevant to a boxing forum I think they are. Its not like his comeback hasn't got tongues wagging in different quarters.

In terms of Haye's dishonourable behaviour still being worth talking about I point towards the number of people who defend him using the excuse 'its only boxing , anything goes'. It's this type of attitude that has led to the proliferation of organisations and belts.

People who shrug their shoulders at a person dragging the sport further into the gutter shouldn't be surprised or complain when they get very short changed by a fighter.

To me Haye and Booth's smugness and arrogance is there biggest crime. They think they can operate with impunity. I make this prediction now that someone will royally shaft Haye in the future. Its the order of the universe, what goes around comes around. For me I'd be happy if Vitali gives him an humiliating and embarrassing beat down.

People who shrug their shoulders at a person dragging the sport further into the gutter shouldn't be surprised or complain when they get very short changed by a fighter.

And people with zero influence in the sport shouldn't be surprised when nothing changes and the best they can hope for is to one day be considered a sad obsessed stalkerish little w*nker.

Congratulations by the way, you sad obsessed stalkerish little w*nker.

Just to save you time responding, I've done it for you "Blah blah blah David Haye (followed by feversh anti-Haye angry w*ank) blah blah white supremecists/Nazis (followed by feverish self righteous indignation and another angry w*nk despite the fact you don't know it's THRASH metal not TRASH) and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah (for about an hour)

To save a day of everyone's life (although I'm sure they enjoy watching you get humiliated as much as I enjoy humiliating you) I'll say now that I haven't got time to respond lad, as I'm too busy indulging in my passion for conjoined twin animal amputee dwarf porn

It's all about priorities........

Did Tyson Fury ever sign a contract to fight David Price?

Did Tyson Fury ever sign a contract to fight Pulev?

Strongback wrote:Did Tyson Fury ever sign a contract to fight David Price?

Did Tyson Fury ever sign a contract to fight Pulev?

Nope, decided to pull out of purse bids and seek a massive payday elsewhere. Struggle to see how he's a paragon of virtue when he's also all about maximising his profits without ever actually having done anything in the first place to warrant a £5million payday.

He's no more of an opportunist scumbag than Haye, riding on the coat-tails of someone else to get himself a few quid instead of getting put on his backside by blown up CW and then crowing like he'd just defeated Foreman and Frazier in the same night again.

Nice to see where you place your loyalties...firmly in the camp of man whose father gouged out the eye of another human being....over a ******* horse.

And you question me?

YSOSLW

DAVE667 wrote:

People who shrug their shoulders at a person dragging the sport further into the gutter shouldn't be surprised or complain when they get very short changed by a fighter.

And people with zero influence in the sport shouldn't be surprised when nothing changes and the best they can hope for is to one day be considered a sad obsessed stalkerish little w*nker.

Congratulations by the way, you sad obsessed stalkerish little w*nker.

Just to save you time responding, I've done it for you "Blah blah blah David Haye (followed by feversh anti-Haye angry w*ank) blah blah white supremecists/Nazis (followed by feverish self righteous indignation and another angry w*nk despite the fact you don't know it's THRASH metal not TRASH) and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah (for about an hour)

To save a day of everyone's life (although I'm sure they enjoy watching you get humiliated as much as I enjoy humiliating you) I'll say now that I haven't got time to respond lad, as I'm too busy indulging in my passion for conjoined twin animal amputee dwarf porn

It's all about priorities........

The only person getting angry around here is you. You are also the man who fires personal insults around like confetti.

That might be due to you spending all those lonely nights in your parents box room head banging and playing air guitar, particularly given you were pushing 40 at the time.