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Post by AdamT Fri 17 Apr 2015, 11:46 am

“I don’t look at a man who’s expert in one area as a specialist,” the UFC featherweight contender told Esquire. “I look at him as a rookie in ten other areas. If you can box, what happens if I grab hold of your legs? If you put me face-to-face with Floyd Mayweather — pound-for-pound boxing’s best — if I fought Floyd, I would kill him in less than thirty seconds. It would take me less than thirty seconds to wrap around him like a boa constrictor and strangle him.”

No s..t Conor.

Think Nadal would beat Rory Mcilory in tennis as well.

Seriously just because both are fighting sports you get idiots like this trying to steal spotlight by comparing themselves to boxers.

This is something like school kids come out with.

Yes I am bored on a Friday and I thought I would try and discuss a rather pointless topic.

I await your comments/insults! Cool

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Fri 17 Apr 2015, 11:52 am

The time of the brilliant technicians in UFC is long gone, it has for quite some time been a jack of all trades sport where they would almost to a man lose in every discipline that they train at any decent level. Mcgregor is a tool of the highest order and I can't wait to see Aldo shut him up for good.

Will add that Georges Saint Pierre was a master in full contact Karate but he was very much the minority, none of the current exponents of BJJ can hold a candle to the Gracies for instance.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 17 Apr 2015, 11:54 am

"What happens If I grab hold of your legs"

You can keep your UFC...

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Post by Derbymanc Fri 17 Apr 2015, 11:55 am

Had this elsewhere already, it's absolutely ridiculous to even try and compare the 2 as it's different sports.

Boxers or MMA fighters coming out with this guff sound like little kids screaming 'look how hard I am'

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 17 Apr 2015, 11:57 am

Derbymanc wrote:Had this elsewhere already, it's absolutely ridiculous to even try and compare the 2 as it's different sports.

Boxers or MMA fighters coming out with this guff sound like little kids screaming 'look how hard I am'

The only person I want to see wriggling around on the floor is Meg Ryan..

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Post by AdamT Fri 17 Apr 2015, 11:59 am

Yeah derby it's a childish thread but every were I go, you get half wits with ufc gear thinking they have done a couple grappling classes and suddenly they can take on any boxer.

Bit classless from Mcgregor.

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Post by Adam D Fri 17 Apr 2015, 12:01 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Derbymanc wrote:Had this elsewhere already, it's absolutely ridiculous to even try and compare the 2 as it's different sports.

Boxers or MMA fighters coming out with this guff sound like little kids screaming 'look how hard I am'

The only person I want to see wriggling around on the floor is Meg Ryan..
Is that after you broken in and tazered her?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 17 Apr 2015, 12:04 pm

AdamT wrote:Yeah derby it's a childish thread but every were I go, you get half wits with ufc gear thinking they have done a couple grappling classes and suddenly they can take on any boxer.

Bit classless from Mcgregor.

Everybody calls people out I wouldn't take it personally........

Remember Alfonso ratcliff's "I'm going to turn the little child into a man"!!........... Before he fought Tyson..........

He was like a Zebra running from a lion when the bell went...

Talk is cheap ....Forget about it..

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Post by Guest Fri 17 Apr 2015, 12:20 pm

AdamT wrote:Yeah derby it's a childish thread but every were I go, you get half wits with ufc gear thinking they have done a couple grappling classes and suddenly they can take on any boxer.

Bit classless from Mcgregor.
Sorry, I forgot we were talking about Floyd Mayweather, the living embodiment of the word "humility"

Pointless argument but McGregor annihilates Floyd. McGregor for all his bluster and bullsh!t is on a tear at the minute. Aldo will have his hands full in July and if he wants to keep his belt and his head, he'd better be prepared to put in a superhuman effort. Can't say I'm a fan of McGregor's babble but he's a good fighter to watch and always give value for money (might even be the first entertaining fight Floyd's been in!!!!!!)

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Post by AdamT Fri 17 Apr 2015, 12:23 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
AdamT wrote:Yeah derby it's a childish thread but every were I go, you get half wits with ufc gear thinking they have done a couple grappling classes and suddenly they can take on any boxer.

Bit classless from Mcgregor.
Sorry, I forgot we were talking about Floyd Mayweather, the living embodiment of the word "humility"

Pointless argument but McGregor annihilates Floyd. McGregor for all his bluster and bullsh!t is on a tear at the minute. Aldo will have his hands full in July and if he wants to keep his belt and his head, he'd better be prepared to put in a superhuman effort. Can't say I'm a fan of McGregor's babble but he's a good fighter to watch and always give value for money (might even be the first entertaining fight Floyd's been in!!!!!!)

I enjoy watching McGregor and am a fan, just thought was a bit stupid. Though he achieved headlines and has idiots like me bringing it up so good on him.

Not sure how McGregor v Aldo will play out. Conor is a great fighter to watch, very little wrestling from him.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 17 Apr 2015, 12:29 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
AdamT wrote:Yeah derby it's a childish thread but every were I go, you get half wits with ufc gear thinking they have done a couple grappling classes and suddenly they can take on any boxer.

Bit classless from Mcgregor.
Sorry, I forgot we were talking about Floyd Mayweather, the living embodiment of the word "humility"

Pointless argument but McGregor annihilates Floyd. McGregor for all his bluster and bullsh!t is on a tear at the minute. Aldo will have his hands full in July and if he wants to keep his belt and his head, he'd better be prepared to put in a superhuman effort. Can't say I'm a fan of McGregor's babble but he's a good fighter to watch and always give value for money (might even be the first entertaining fight Floyd's been in!!!!!!)

I'd pick most kung fu experts to annihilate Floyd..........

I'd also pick a guy with a gun to beat a guy with a knife...........

Just as relevant..

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Post by Dipper Brown Fri 17 Apr 2015, 12:59 pm

Yeah pointless statement from McGregor. Sounds like a bit of a mug, always giving it the biggun but utterly charmless and humourless.

Shares a lot in common with Mayweather himself in that regard. I think someone on the podcast was commenting the other day how boring they find the money character. Couldn't agree more.

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Post by Guest Fri 17 Apr 2015, 1:04 pm

Dipper Brown wrote:Yeah pointless statement from McGregor. Sounds like a bit of a mug, always giving it the biggun but utterly charmless and humourless.

Shares a lot in common with Mayweather himself in that regard. I think someone on the podcast was commenting the other day how boring they find the money character. Couldn't agree more.
Ironic that McGregor is MMA's version of Floyd what with his obsession with money.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 17 Apr 2015, 1:08 pm

There isn't an MMA version of Floyd...

Just a bunch of girly boys kicking people and love-biting eachother on the ground...

If you can't box try MMA..

Anyone remember Pele Reid ??? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Fri 17 Apr 2015, 1:20 pm

The world kick boxing champion before he turned professional as a boxer?

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Post by AdamT Fri 17 Apr 2015, 1:20 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:There isn't an MMA version of Floyd...

Just a bunch of girly boys kicking people and love-biting eachother on the ground...

If you can't box try MMA..

Anyone remember Pele Reid ??? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

He knocked out Vitali, didn't he Cool

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Post by Valero's Conscience Fri 17 Apr 2015, 1:31 pm

It really annoys me when this stupid argument always comes up and boxing fans are 99% of the time the disrespectful ones. Yeah sure, most of MMA fighter's striking is much below pro boxer but it should be. Many of the guys would never done any striking until their late teens/early twenties as they come from another discipline.

McGregor is a pantomime character who is cashing in on his antics, fair play to him but he is disrespectful.

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Post by AdamT Fri 17 Apr 2015, 1:33 pm

I like McGregor but perhaps he should stick to his sport for now. Bit early for him to trash talk a fighter who has been top of his game for the best par of 15-20 years.

Definitely enjoy watching Conor fight. Unorthodox,classy striker. Fun to watch.

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Post by Guest Fri 17 Apr 2015, 1:36 pm

AdamT wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:There isn't an MMA version of Floyd...

Just a bunch of girly boys kicking people and love-biting eachother on the ground...

If you can't box try MMA..

Anyone remember Pele Reid ??? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

He knocked out Vitali, didn't he Cool
Talking about the loudmouthed obnoxious money obsessed persona....BTW, lest we forget, if MMA was so easy, James Toney wouldn't have been choked out by that girl boy Randy Couture, would he?

As for Pele Reid, irrespective of his martial arts background, he was always going to be shyte, but then Vitali made a successful transition from one to the other but fair play if you want to dismiss it out of hand entirely.

However, maybe McGregor's just thinks that if Mayweather is getting $180 million then maybe he should try having a real fight (or something)

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Post by Dipper Brown Fri 17 Apr 2015, 1:36 pm

I don't mind trash talk, don't expect fighters to be the most respectful characters. Some of them are believable, genuine and interesting, some are contrived and boring.

McGregor, Mayweather definitely the latter.

I like MMA, can't abide by these people walking around with pot bellies in garish 'TAPOUT' T shirts though. May as well carry a sign saying 'I like fighting!'.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Fri 17 Apr 2015, 1:36 pm

He has a point tho.

but if they faced each other in a boxing ring Money would win.

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Post by Guest Fri 17 Apr 2015, 1:37 pm

Mayweather KO'd the Big Show, surely 5'5", 9 stone dripping wet McGregor should be a walk in the park!!!!!!!!!

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Post by kingraf Fri 17 Apr 2015, 1:57 pm

Thought this was a result of a rather demeaning statement Floyd about MMA? Someone should tell this guy that this isn't a Japanese movie with honour, and bad dubbing. Boxing and MMA are sports, the participants athletes... Why would Bolt train to do the long jump, just because a decathlete can? In any case UFC is a long way away from the Vale Tudo origins of MMA, where the best combatants could make a legitimate case to be the best fighter in the world.

That said, though amusing, these MMA cats. McGregor could very well beat Floyd in a MMA fight, but he's kidding himself if he thinks a boxer with Floyd's handspeed couldn't do serious damage if you handed him 4oz gloves and a guy who lunges in like he does.
Rousey also said she could thrash Floyd, so I'm just assuming Dana White is trying to get some press off the biggest martial art event for a generation
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Post by kingraf Fri 17 Apr 2015, 2:04 pm

Interesting you bring up Toney-Couture - Can't understand how a former world champion beating a 40-something year old man three or four weight divisions past his best proves anything.
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Post by Hammersmith harrier Fri 17 Apr 2015, 2:06 pm

I do find it bemusing and comical that Dana White is trying desperately to make out as if Rousey could hack it against men.

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Post by Coxy001 Fri 17 Apr 2015, 2:16 pm

UFC will drop off the radar once the American's aren't all holding the belts. As soon as the superior foreign fighters start flooding the market they won't give two s***ts as they can't support anyone who doesn't bark to their drawling tone.


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Post by AdamT Fri 17 Apr 2015, 2:18 pm


However, maybe McGregor's just thinks that if Mayweather is getting $180 million then maybe he should try having a real fight (or something)[/quote]

To be fair why would he have a real fight for a million, when he can make $180?


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Post by Valero's Conscience Fri 17 Apr 2015, 2:20 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:I do find it bemusing and comical that Dana White is trying desperately to make out as if Rousey could hack it against men.

It is over the top, she would alw3ays have a chance to submit someone but pure power and strength alone she'll get KO'd.

She is becoming a cross over star now so adding to the hype.

Note: Bob Arum confirmed Rousey was the only person to get a free ticket to the Mayweather/Manny fight!

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Post by kingraf Fri 17 Apr 2015, 2:23 pm

I do love Rousey. I'd love to get rowdy with Rousey...
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Post by Guest Fri 17 Apr 2015, 2:25 pm

kingraf wrote:Interesting you bring up Toney-Couture - Can't understand how a former world champion beating a 40-something year old man three or four weight divisions past his best proves anything.
I bring it up become certain posters seem to think that the boxing/MMA argument only goes one way. Toney thought it was a piece of p!ss and found out it's f*cking difficult. BTW, Couture was several years past his prime when he fought Toney as well.

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Post by Guest Fri 17 Apr 2015, 2:27 pm

Coxy001 wrote:UFC will drop off the radar once the American's aren't all holding the belts. As soon as the superior foreign fighters start flooding the market they won't give two s***ts as they can't support anyone who doesn't bark to their drawling tone.

Yup, that's why they hate Fedor, Cro Cop, Silva etc.....oh dear!!

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Post by kingraf Fri 17 Apr 2015, 2:34 pm

How about Anderson Silva gets in the ring with Vitali? Of course it's difficult, but it's a sport, not some ultimate fighting machine finding talent competion. Boxers aren't gonna switch to MMA, why would they? Chris Algieri makes more in a fight than your average MMA main eventer.

If Coutore wanted to challenge a fighter, he would have looked better challenging Vitali. Six world Titles in two fighting disciplines and a mind which has played a chess grandmaster to draw. Beating a has been in a division he picked because he can't be arsed to do any road work isn't definitive...

The question is never gonna get answered because no top boxer in his prime is going to to UFC to fight for $50k + $10k.
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Post by Coxy001 Fri 17 Apr 2015, 2:38 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
Coxy001 wrote:UFC will drop off the radar once the American's aren't all holding the belts. As soon as the superior foreign fighters start flooding the market they won't give two s***ts as they can't support anyone who doesn't bark to their drawling tone.

Yup, that's why they hate Fedor, Cro Cop, Silva etc.....oh dear!!

You ignored the point. The Americans have dominated the belts/title fights. Once the foreign fighters take over they won't give two craps.

Ryder Cup viewing figures are down because they get their arses kicked each time. They view the UFC as an American brand with American fighters dominating the divisions.




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Post by Hammersmith harrier Fri 17 Apr 2015, 2:42 pm

Coxy001 wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
Coxy001 wrote:UFC will drop off the radar once the American's aren't all holding the belts. As soon as the superior foreign fighters start flooding the market they won't give two s***ts as they can't support anyone who doesn't bark to their drawling tone.

Yup, that's why they hate Fedor, Cro Cop, Silva etc.....oh dear!!

You ignored the point. The Americans have dominated the belts/title fights. Once the foreign fighters take over they won't give two craps.

Ryder Cup viewing figures are down because they get their arses kicked each time. They view the UFC as an American brand with American fighters dominating the divisions.




Aldo, GSP and Silva are three of the four longest reigning champions Coxy, all three of them were also champion at the same time.

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Post by Guest Fri 17 Apr 2015, 2:43 pm

Coxy001 wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
Coxy001 wrote:UFC will drop off the radar once the American's aren't all holding the belts. As soon as the superior foreign fighters start flooding the market they won't give two s***ts as they can't support anyone who doesn't bark to their drawling tone.

Yup, that's why they hate Fedor, Cro Cop, Silva etc.....oh dear!!

You ignored the point. The Americans have dominated the belts/title fights. Once the foreign fighters take over they won't give two craps.

Ryder Cup viewing figures are down because they get their arses kicked each time. They view the UFC as an American brand with American fighters dominating the divisions.



I haven't ignored the point, I just don't agree with it. A lot of the MMA attendees are knuckle dragging cretins who don't care what language you speak as they're only interested in highlight reel KO's and as long as a fighter delivers those, they'll be happy (much like a number of boxing fans). There are some excellent technical wrestlers and many of the beered up "fans" sit there booing and basically missing the whole point of MIXED martial arts.

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Post by Coxy001 Fri 17 Apr 2015, 3:11 pm

Dave not discounting the skill level, it's just an each to their own on enjoying MMA though. That and boxing could learn a lot from the one divisional title holder, better ranking system and so forth.

Just can't see it as a sustainable business model. The guys you mentioned have personalities and seem a bit oblivious to the pittance they get paid compared to how much the business itself turns over, it's only a matter of time before there are a load of UFC level business with the best fighters fighting across different organisations. Much like we have with boxing with the belts etc.


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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 17 Apr 2015, 3:12 pm

Coxy001 wrote:UFC will drop off the radar once the American's aren't all holding the belts. As soon as the superior foreign fighters start flooding the market they won't give two s***ts as they can't support anyone who doesn't bark to their drawling tone.


Boring...

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Fri 17 Apr 2015, 3:24 pm

Coxy001 wrote:Dave not discounting the skill level, it's just an each to their own on enjoying MMA though. That and boxing could learn a lot from the one divisional title holder, better ranking system and so forth.

Just can't see it as a sustainable business model. The guys you mentioned have personalities and seem a bit oblivious to the pittance they get paid compared to how much the business itself turns over, it's only a matter of time before there are a load of UFC level business with the best fighters fighting across different organisations. Much like we have with boxing with the belts etc.


There already are various different organisations such as Pride, M-1, Strikeforce, Affliction etc. Without doubt the top MMA Heavyweight of the last decade Fedor Emilianenko has never fought under the UFC banner.

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Post by Rowley Fri 17 Apr 2015, 3:28 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Coxy001 wrote:UFC will drop off the radar once the American's aren't all holding the belts. As soon as the superior foreign fighters start flooding the market they won't give two s***ts as they can't support anyone who doesn't bark to their drawling tone.


Boring...

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Post by Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake Fri 17 Apr 2015, 3:50 pm

And Tiger Woods would beat MacGregor at golf, which is about as relevant a comparison.

Don't read too much into it, it's just MacGregor trying to build his hype.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 17 Apr 2015, 3:54 pm

As long as we beat the Yankees..........

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Post by Rowley Fri 17 Apr 2015, 4:03 pm

As long as everyone beats the Yankees Truss.

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Post by Rodney Fri 17 Apr 2015, 4:05 pm

Coxy001 wrote:UFC will drop off the radar once the American's aren't all holding the belts. As soon as the superior foreign fighters start flooding the market they won't give two s***ts as they can't support anyone who doesn't bark to their drawling tone.


Disagree, Americans like excitement and big events like everyone else.. 51000 turned out to see Pacquaio vs Clottey a Filipino v Ghana nan .

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Post by Guest Fri 17 Apr 2015, 4:10 pm

Rodney wrote:
Coxy001 wrote:UFC will drop off the radar once the American's aren't all holding the belts. As soon as the superior foreign fighters start flooding the market they won't give two s***ts as they can't support anyone who doesn't bark to their drawling tone.


Disagree, Americans like excitement and big events like everyone else.. 51000 turned out to see Pacquaio vs Clottey a Filipino v Ghana nan .

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 17 Apr 2015, 4:11 pm

Maybe she's related to Hopkins ??

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Post by Rodney Fri 17 Apr 2015, 4:53 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
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Coxy001 wrote:UFC will drop off the radar once the American's aren't all holding the belts. As soon as the superior foreign fighters start flooding the market they won't give two s***ts as they can't support anyone who doesn't bark to their drawling tone.


Disagree, Americans like excitement and big events like everyone else.. 51000 turned out to see Pacquaio vs Clottey a Filipino v Ghana nan .

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F*ck me Rodders, I know people accuse Manny of cherry picking but to suggest he'd deliberately fighting old African women is a bit strong

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Rodney wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
Rodney wrote:
Coxy001 wrote:UFC will drop off the radar once the American's aren't all holding the belts. As soon as the superior foreign fighters start flooding the market they won't give two s***ts as they can't support anyone who doesn't bark to their drawling tone.


Disagree, Americans like excitement and big events like everyone else.. 51000 turned out to see Pacquaio vs Clottey a Filipino v Ghana nan .

Cheers, Rodders
F*ck me Rodders, I know people accuse Manny of cherry picking but to suggest he'd deliberately fighting old African women is a bit strong

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looks like she's already got her gumshield in

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 17 Apr 2015, 5:11 pm

Pick her to beat Gavin...

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Think I've seen her on a couple of Warren cards recently

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Fri 17 Apr 2015, 6:54 pm

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Derbymanc wrote:Had this elsewhere already, it's absolutely ridiculous to even try and compare the 2 as it's different sports.

Boxers or MMA fighters coming out with this guff sound like little kids screaming 'look how hard I am'

The only person I want to see wriggling around on the floor is Meg Ryan..

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