Glasgow and Edinburgh: Ongoing Banter Thread VIII

[RuggerRadge2611]

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Ye Olde Banter:

https://www.606v2.com/t48240-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread
https://www.606v2.com/t51313-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread-ii
https://www.606v2.com/t53119-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread-iii
https://www.606v2.com/t54519-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread-iv
https://www.606v2.com/t55409-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread-v-the-fun-continues
https://www.606v2.com/t56913p950-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread-vi-banter-boogaloo
https://www.606v2.com/t57946-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread-vii



A. Edinburgh
   

1. League Results  

Fri 5 Sep: Munster Rugby 13 - 14 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 12 Sep: Edinburgh Rugby 13 - 14 Connacht Rugby

Sun 21 Sep: Ospreys 62 - 13 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 26 Sep: Edinburgh Rugby 20 - 20 Scarlets

Fri 3 Oct: Ulster Rugby 30 - 0 Edinburgh Rugby

Sat 11 Oct: Edinburgh Rugby 24 - 10 Newport Gwent Dragons

Fri 31 Oct: Leinster Rugby 33 - 8 Edinburgh Rugby

Sun 23 Nov: Edinburgh Rugby 28 - 13 Cardiff Blues

Sat 29 Nov: Zebre 18 - 10 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 19 Dec: Edinburgh Rugby 48 - 0 Benetton Treviso

Sat 27 Dec: Glasgow Warriors 16 - 6 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 2 Jan: Edinburgh Rugby - 20 - 8 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 9 Jan: Connacht Rugby 13 - 16 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 13 Feb: Edinburgh Rugby 24 - 16 Ospreys

Fri 20 Feb: Edinburgh Rugby 17 - 20 Ulster Rugby

Sun 1 Mar: Cardiff Blues 21 - 15 Edinburgh Rugby

Sat 7 Mar: Benetton Treviso 8 - 29 Edinburgh

Sat 28 Mar: Scarlets 15 - 26 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 24 Apr: Edinburgh Rugby 3 - 34 Munster Rugby

2. European Results  

17/10/14: Bordeaux-Begles 13 - 15 Edinburgh Rugby

24/10/14: Edinburgh Rugby 25 - 17 Lyon

7/12/14: Edinburgh Rugby 25 - 13 London Welsh

14/12/14: London Welsh 6 - 24 Edinburgh Rugby

17/01/2015: Lyon 21 - 19 Edinburgh Rugby

23/01/2015: Edinburgh Rugby 38 - 20 Bordeaux-Begles

05/04/2015: London Irish 18-23 Edinburgh

17/04/2015: Edinburgh 45-16 Dragons

B. Glasgow


1. League Results  

Sat 6 Sep: Glasgow Warriors 22 - 20 Leinster Rugby

Sun 14 Sep: Cardiff Blues 12 - 33 Glasgow Warriors

Sat 20 Sep: Newport Gwent Dragons 13 - 33 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 26 Sep: Glasgow Warriors 39 - 21 Connacht Rugby

Sun 5 Oct: Benetton Treviso 23 - 40 Glasgow Warriors

Sat 11 Oct: Ulster Rugby 29 - 9 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 31 Oct: Glasgow Warriors 17 - 9 Benetton Treviso

Fri 21 Nov: Scarlets 19 - 9 Glasgow Warriors

Sun 30 Nov: Glasgow Warriors 19 - 15 Newport Gwent Dragons

Sat 20 Dec: Glasgow Warriors 21 - 18 Munster Rugby

Sat 27 Dec: Glasgow Warriors 16 - 6 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 2 Jan: Edinburgh Rugby 20 - 8 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 9 Jan: Glasgow Warriors 22 - 7 Scarlets

Sun 15 Feb: Zebre 10 - 54 Glasgow Warriors

Sat 21 Feb: Glasgow Warriors 19 - 16 Ospreys

Sat 28 Feb: Munster Rugby 22 - 10 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 6 Mar: Glasgow Warriors 26 - 5 Zebre

Fri 27 Mar: Leinster Rugby 34 - 34 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 10 Apr: Glasgow Warriors 36 - 17 Cardiff Blues


2. European Results  

18/10/14: Glasgow Warriors 37 - 10 Bath Rugby

25/10/14: Montpellier 13 - 15 Glasgow Warriors

7/12/14: Toulouse 19 - 11 Glasgow Warriors

13/12/14: Glasgow Warriors 9 - 12 Toulouse

18/01/2015: Glasgow Warriors 21 - 10 Montpellier

25/01/2015: Bath Rugby 20 - 15 Glasgow Warriors

Hopefully this thread will keep GC off my back for a wee while...

[funnyExiledScot]

*must not make a joke about Jimbo's quoting abilities...* [/quote]

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I don't follow......

[jimbopip]

Now you've gone and upset me, RDW.
Or at least you would have if my head wasn't full with plans for where I'll watch the final on Saturday, which 23 names will erupt from the magic tombola, wondering how the new signings will cope with the pressure of being the top side in the league, considering wether we cam make three finals in a row next year.
Anyway, when my head is slightly emptier I promise I will be upset.

[RDW]

Now you've gone and upset me, RDW.
Or at least you would have if my head wasn't full with plans for where I'll watch the final on Saturday, which 23 names will erupt from the magic tombola, wondering how the new signings will cope with the pressure of being the top side in the league, considering wether we cam make three finals in a row next year.
Anyway, when my head is slightly emptier I promise I will be upset.

Hey, you're the one that mistook me for FES!

Now that is the biggest offence. I'm certainly no lawyer!

(No offence FES )

[jimbopip]

Now you've gone and upset me, RDW.
Or at least you would have if my head wasn't full with plans for where I'll watch the final on Saturday, which 23 names will erupt from the magic tombola, wondering how the new signings will cope with the pressure of being the top side in the league, considering wether we cam make three finals in a row next year.
Anyway, when my head is slightly emptier I promise I will be upset.

Hey, you're the one that mistook me for FES!

Now that is the biggest offence. I'm certainly no lawyer 100% correct!

(No offence FES )

[funnyExiledScot]

Ouch! These are personal attacks. Where's an Administrator when you need one.....

[tigertattie]

*must not make a joke about Jimbo's quoting abilities...*

I can't slag!

I've confused a ginger with a headbutting (allegedly) muppit

[Weegie Wizard]

If I thought it was possible, I would say this thread has taken a bizarre turn

[funnyExiledScot]

If I thought it was possible, I would say this thread has taken a bizarre turn

Agreed. Let's get back on track.

Cage fight. No rules. Fergus Pringle vs Al Kellock. Who would win?

[George Carlin]

If I thought it was possible, I would say this thread has taken a bizarre turn

Agreed. Let's get back on track.

Cage fight. No rules. Fergus Pringle vs Al Kellock. Who would win?

Would have to be Al. Fergus won marginally less than feck all when he was with Boroughmuir.

[tigertattie]

If I thought it was possible, I would say this thread has taken a bizarre turn

Agreed. Let's get back on track.

Cage fight. No rules. Fergus Pringle vs Al Kellock. Who would win?

Pringle would win as Big Al would provide "leadership" to proceedings

[George Carlin]

Or it would be a draw as Large Alastair would be too busy inspecting the octagon from the fringes to actually get inside.

[RDW]

Or it would be a draw as Large Alastair would be too busy inspecting the octagon from the fringes to actually get inside.

Wait, you lot can make jokes about kellock but we can't??

[George Carlin]

Or it would be a draw as Large Alastair would be too busy inspecting the octagon from the fringes to actually get inside.

Wait, you lot can make jokes about kellock but we can't??

Of course. It's like making a joke about a member of my family or about how cashmere-sodden and pretentious my small Ayrshire town was growing up.

I make take the p!ss out of them freely. But you obviously can't.

[funnyExiledScot]

Surely bets are off regarding Uncle Dougie??

[RDW]

Incredible playoff game - Worcester score last play of the game and needing a touchline conversion to win by a point - they got it.

Bristol lose the playoff again.

[TheMildlyFranticLlama]

Means Aviva premiership experience for a young Scottish coach, Simon Cross the ex-Edinburgh flanker who is defence coach for Worcester.

I just hope Worcester can be less dreary than they have been on their last few forays into the top flight. Though with Dean Ryan in charge i'm not confident.

[RDW]

Alex grove back in the premiership too.

[Majestic83]

Along with Tom Heathcote.

Slightly disappointed for Mitch eadie at Bristol. Was looking forward to seeing him being tested in the premiership as he looks a great prospect at no8. Reminds me a bit of a young ally Hogg.

[funnyExiledScot]

I thought Eadie was superb tonight. Surely one of the top flight sides will take a look?

[George Carlin]

I thought Eadie was superb tonight. Surely one of the top flight sides will take a look?

Yes, with respect to all the delights of Clifton and the molten bronze droplets of genius flowing from the Andy Robinson's rugby Pez dispensor, guys like Eadie, Morgan and Jones have to be looking for an avenue out or kiss goodbye to their international aspirations. The likes of Eadie would be a solid squad choice for a Jeff side, at least.

[MacKnocked-on]

I thought Eadie was superb tonight. Surely one of the top flight sides will take a look?

Yes, with respect to all the delights of Clifton and the molten bronze droplets of genius flowing from the Andy Robinson's rugby Pez dispensor, guys like Eadie, Morgan and Jones have to be looking for an avenue out or kiss goodbye to their international aspirations. The likes of Eadie would be a solid squad choice for a Jeff side, at least.

Inexperienced as he is of top level rugby, I actually think Eadie should be brought in to the Scotland set up as quickly as possible, he looks to have all the attributes to be a really good player; very fast, hard working etc. If he were to move to a Prem club down south and get game time then we could lose him to England, is that worth the risk? Blake was considered worth including by Cotter in the Scotland squad and he certainly hasn't more top level rugby experience than Eadie.

[tigertattie]

I thought Eadie was superb tonight. Surely one of the top flight sides will take a look?

Yes, with respect to all the delights of Clifton and the molten bronze droplets of genius flowing from the Andy Robinson's rugby Pez dispensor, guys like Eadie, Morgan and Jones have to be looking for an avenue out or kiss goodbye to their international aspirations. The likes of Eadie would be a solid squad choice for a Jeff side, at least.

Inexperienced as he is of top level rugby, I actually think Eadie should be brought in to the Scotland set up as quickly as possible, he looks to have all the attributes to be a really good player; very fast, hard working etc. If he were to move to a Prem club down south and get game time then we could lose him to England, is that worth the risk? Blake was considered worth including by Cotter in the Scotland squad and he certainly hasn't more top level rugby experience than Eadie.

He can't be selected until he has completed enough pro game time according to the FES formula

[RDW]

Eadie reminds me of Ashe - doesn't look massive but is very dynamic and pretty stocky so is a powerful carrier.

[nickj]

From a Scots perspective, promotion will be a great test for Carl Hogg and Simon Cross. I wonder if we'll see them at Edinburgh at some point? However I question whether Heathcote will be able to oust Lamb, unless its for kicking?

[RDW]

Heathcoat's kicking has been awful for Edinburgh, Ryan Lamb's kicking won them promotion yesterday!

[lostinwales]

I thought Eadie was superb tonight. Surely one of the top flight sides will take a look?

Yes, with respect to all the delights of Clifton and the molten bronze droplets of genius flowing from the Andy Robinson's rugby Pez dispensor, guys like Eadie, Morgan and Jones have to be looking for an avenue out or kiss goodbye to their international aspirations. The likes of Eadie would be a solid squad choice for a Jeff side, at least.

Inexperienced as he is of top level rugby, I actually think Eadie should be brought in to the Scotland set up as quickly as possible, he looks to have all the attributes to be a really good player; very fast, hard working etc. If he were to move to a Prem club down south and get game time then we could lose him to England, is that worth the risk? Blake was considered worth including by Cotter in the Scotland squad and he certainly hasn't more top level rugby experience than Eadie.

From an England perspective he would have to be some prospect to generate enough interest to unseat the incumbent monsters and prospects we have at 8. There are a lot of good 8s about.

[George Carlin]

I see that Tommy Spinks has signed for Jersey.

Another player who is far too good to have had the wasted year he has just had sitting on the sidelines. He would have been good enough to join a Jeff team as a squad member IMHO, but I suppose that a year out means he needs to prove himself in the Championship all over again. Pleased he will be getting to play every week, though.

[nickj]

Heathcoat's kicking has been awful for Edinburgh, Ryan Lamb's kicking won them promotion yesterday!

You're absolutely right RDW. Just checked the scores. My bad. Didn't catch the game and had a (probably) unfounded preconception that Lamb's kicking could be a bit wayward and that Heathcote's was one of his strengths - irrespective of this season. However my point stands, I'm not sure Tam will be able to dislodge the present incumbent, which is a shame.

[funnyExiledScot]

I thought Eadie was superb tonight. Surely one of the top flight sides will take a look?

Yes, with respect to all the delights of Clifton and the molten bronze droplets of genius flowing from the Andy Robinson's rugby Pez dispensor, guys like Eadie, Morgan and Jones have to be looking for an avenue out or kiss goodbye to their international aspirations. The likes of Eadie would be a solid squad choice for a Jeff side, at least.

Inexperienced as he is of top level rugby, I actually think Eadie should be brought in to the Scotland set up as quickly as possible, he looks to have all the attributes to be a really good player; very fast, hard working etc. If he were to move to a Prem club down south and get game time then we could lose him to England, is that worth the risk? Blake was considered worth including by Cotter in the Scotland squad and he certainly hasn't more top level rugby experience than Eadie.

He can't be selected until he has completed enough pro game time according to the FES formula

The only concern I'd have with Eadie would be over his size, not for club rugby but at international level. Scotland would probably play him at 7 though, so less of an issue......

[Nematode]

I feel sorry for Spinks (and Bordill).

It works well for Glasgow - good, cheap, SQ squad depth - but for the players they're just not going to get that game time they need at an important age.

Feel the SRU could use SJ's salary or find funds from elsewhere to really promote London Scottish as a breeding ground.

[Weegie Wizard]

I would prefer these guys going to LS than to Jersey or whoever else but ideally to an AP team. Obviously that is not in the control of Glasgow or the SRU though.

It seems as though Bordill is rated higher at Scotstoun than Spinks is/was but his problem is that Fusaro is unlikely to make any of the international squads so it is difficult to see where his game time will come from. He is now probably the 4th choice openside and, if he was thought to be capable for games this season, I don't think we would have brought in Favaro.

[Majestic83]

Shame Tommy hasn't made it at Glasgow.

Think he would have been better off staying at LS instead of going to Glasgow. He would have got regular game time as he was thought highly off by the LS coaches. Slightly surprised he hasn't gone back there, though I do know he has had problems with his agent and Is in the process of getting a new one.

[demosthenes]

Shame Tommy hasn't made it at Glasgow.

Think he would have been better off staying at LS instead of going to Glasgow. He would have got regular game time as he was thought highly off by the LS coaches. Slightly surprised he hasn't gone back there, though I do know he has had problems with his agent and Is in the process of getting a new one.

Is that two or three ex-Warriors over in Jersey now? Spinks and Nick Campbell - I cant remember if there is another.

[Majestic83]

Glenn Bryce had been at Jersey before he joined Glasgow. Think it will be just Campbell and spinks but could be wrong.

I spotted Tom Ryder is leaving Northampton & joining Yorkshire Carnegie next season.

[Majestic83]

Also Fiji have named their training squad for the Pacific nations and the world cup. It includes Niko, Jerry and Nakawara but no mention of Big T. Good news for Glasgow in the short term and also possibly Scotland long term.

[funnyExiledScot]

Jeez, I leave you guys for 5 minutes and you're back talking about rugby again!

[BigGee]

Glenn Bryce had been at Jersey before he joined Glasgow. Think it will be just Campbell and spinks but could be wrong.

I spotted Tom Ryder is leaving Northampton & joining Yorkshire Carnegie next season.

Didn't one of George Graham's boys go to Jersey as well?

[Imperialbigdave]

Just noticed Richard Kahui was out of contract at the conclusion of the Japanese season back in the spring, and as far as im aware hasnt been picked up by anyone yet.

Solly wants a centre...

[funnyExiledScot]

Now Kahui can play a bit. He's like Strauss except quick, with excellent balance and great handling skills. I could see Scott and Kahui getting famously.

Watched David Smith play tonight against Ireland. Very useful indeed.

[justified sinner]

Doesn't he have a dodgy injury history? We've tried crocked ex ABs before and that didn't work well.

[funnyExiledScot]

Doesn't he have a dodgy injury history? We've tried crocked ex ABs before and that didn't work well.

This raises an interesting question. Is it better to sign a good player with a bad injury record, or a bad player with a good injury record??

[Majestic83]

Glenn Bryce had been at Jersey before he joined Glasgow. Think it will be just Campbell and spinks but could be wrong.

I spotted Tom Ryder is leaving Northampton & joining Yorkshire Carnegie next season.

Didn't one of George Graham's boys go to Jersey as well?

Yeah the one that plays back row is at Jersey, Gary I think it is.

[Majestic83]

Doesn't he have a dodgy injury history? We've tried crocked ex ABs before and that didn't work well.

This raises an interesting question. Is it better to sign a good player with a bad injury record, or a bad player with a good injury record??

Look at wilkinson. His injury record was terrible at Newcastle, switched to Toulon and barely missed any games through injury. Sometimes players just need a change of scenery to get their injuries out the way.

[SirBurger]

Waratahs’ wrecking ball Taqele Naiyaravoro revealed as Fiji’s secret weapon against Wallabies!!!
As if the Taqele Naiyaravoro saga hasn’t taken enough twists and turns, we can reveal that the giant Waratahs winger will commit to Fiji for the World Cup.
Naiyaravoro has been linked to both Australia and Scotland, but he has given assurances to Fiji that he will be available to them, which means he could be lining up directly against NSW teammates and coach Michael Cheika when the Wallabies play their first World Cup match against the Flying Fijians.
Naiyaravoro showed yet again his damaging abilities last weekend by crossing for two tries against the Crusaders, which now makes him second-equal top tryscorer in Super Rugby alongside Waisake Naholo and one behind TJ Perenara.
His rival last weekend, Nemani Nadolo, is one of Fiji’s spearheads for the World Cup campaign, and had chats with Naiyaravoro prior to the match.
By playing for a Pacific Island team, Naiyaravoro’s deal with Glasgow becomes easier because he can be capped as a second-tier international, which falls under a lesser category in European clubs’ recruitment policy than those who have represented Australia, New Zealand and South Africa.
Source: Fox Sports Australia

[Majestic83]

Waratahs’ wrecking ball Taqele Naiyaravoro revealed as Fiji’s secret weapon against Wallabies!!!
As if the Taqele Naiyaravoro saga hasn’t taken enough twists and turns, we can reveal that the giant Waratahs winger will commit to Fiji for the World Cup.
Naiyaravoro has been linked to both Australia and Scotland, but he has given assurances to Fiji that he will be available to them, which means he could be lining up directly against NSW teammates and coach Michael Cheika when the Wallabies play their first World Cup match against the Flying Fijians.
Naiyaravoro showed yet again his damaging abilities last weekend by crossing for two tries against the Crusaders, which now makes him second-equal top tryscorer in Super Rugby alongside Waisake Naholo and one behind TJ Perenara.
His rival last weekend, Nemani Nadolo, is one of Fiji’s spearheads for the World Cup campaign, and had chats with Naiyaravoro prior to the match.
By playing for a Pacific Island team, Naiyaravoro’s deal with Glasgow becomes easier because he can be capped as a second-tier international, which falls under a lesser category in European clubs’ recruitment policy than those who have represented Australia, New Zealand and South Africa.
Source: Fox Sports Australia

Well it takes another twist as he hasn't been named in their World Cup training squad!

[funnyExiledScot]

I personally think Glasgow should sign him regardless. He clearly meets the quality threshold for an NSQ player, and is basically a direct replacement for DTH.

[Majestic83]

I agree, I'd still sign him even if he is capped as he is going to be a top quality player and the type of player that is going to attract fans to games.

It is pretty interesting though that Fiji haven't selected him despite the reports coming from Fiji that he was definitely going to be in their squad.

[RDW]

Agreed - he looks to be good enough player to sign regardless of whether he is a project player or not.

It still will be an unbelievable situation if he turns out for Scotland in 3 years time though - got to love the eligibility rules.

At least in Strauss and Nel's case they had pretty much accepted they wouldn't play for South Africa.

If Big T moves to Scotland and deliberately doesn't make himself available for Fiji then that is a different case altogether, and one I won't be overly comfortable with.

We don't know whether that is his plan of course...

[Nematode]

He's a great player, but not quite the finished article. He still needs to work on restarts and has only had one season of professional rugby union. Fiji are well placed in their backline so he maybe simply wasn't quite good enough.

[GLove39]

He's a great player, but not quite the finished article. He still needs to work on restarts and has only had one season of professional rugby union. Fiji are well placed in their backline so he maybe simply wasn't quite good enough.

He'll fit right in with the rest of the Scotland team then!

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