Ongoing NFL Discussion Thread V

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

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Time for Carolina to pull out some starters me thinks

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Utterly ridiculous contract - they have sooooooo many holes on that roster how he can justify that for a decent young pass rusher with potential to be very good is beyond me

[Number-25]

Aren't the Giants supposed to be one of those much lauded "build through the draft" teams?? I guess those days are over.

They're a bunch of desperados now.

[Pr4wn]

Some ludicrous money given out yesterday, not least by my Bucs.

I don't mind the money for Martin, he's a proven runner and the fans love him. But all that cash for JR Sweezy? It smack of the ridiculous deal Zane Beadles got from Jacksonville.

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Sweezys good for a highlight reel block every so often. Pretty raw player but he has the attributes.

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Moves I liked:

Jeff Allen to Houston: Brandon Brooks went elsewhere, Allen signed for less to replace him immediately.
Mitchell Schwartz to KC: Clevelands line got decimated yesterday. Mack is kinda overrated and overpaid, Schwartz is a big get.
JPP too the Giants. This is a win win for both sides.
Travis Benjamin to SD: Wanted him, great deep threat.

Moves I didn't like:

Chris Ivory to Jacksonville: Good for a beast mode run or two a season, not that effective outside of that and injury prone.
Brock Osweiler to Houston: 7 mediocre starts, dont think he's actually any better than Hoyer.
Vernon and Harrison to the Giants: Neithers a bad player, but giving their money to Malik Jackson and Robert Ayers is a much more balanced and dangerous line Imo.
Coby Fleener to the Saints: He just isnt that good.

[Pr4wn]

Buccaneers having a good look at Ayers. Would like to have him on the squad for the right price. Solid player.

[GSC]

Yeah hes a good 2nd guy.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Trevathan to the Bears my best move of yesterday

Quality LB at a very reasonable price

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Forgot Bruce Irvin.

Terribad move.

[TM Moot]

Trevathan to the Bears my best move of yesterday

Quality LB at a very reasonable price

damn, was hoping he'd end up in Green Bay

[Number-25]

I don't find myself looking enviously at any of the deals made so far in free agency and wishing my team had got any of the players.

Redskins have Vernon Davis in today.... I'm super-excited about that

[twelve283]

I don't find myself looking enviously at any of the deals made so far in free agency and wishing my team had got any of the players.

Redskins have Vernon Davis in today.... I'm super-excited about that

Same as every year, 90% of FA's get paid more than they should.

49ers did well to sign Williams for $27.5/5 when Harrison was given $46/5 (basically the same player) and the Bears got a good deal for Trevathan.

Patriots had interest in Sanu ($32.5M/5) Matthews ($15M/3) and Forte ($12M/3) so I'm glad we didn't get them at that price.

Would like us to look at Kearse or Mariani (watched him in college, good ST player, cheaper version of Amendola) and I like Wisniewski on the OL.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Chris Hogan, James Starks, Bennie Cunningham, Rod Streater and Clay harbor all visited the pats today

[twelve283]

So much for us avoiding bad contracts, we just offered Chris Hogan $12M/3. Would have preferred Jermaine Kearse at $13.5M/3.

[Number-25]

Nooooo!!! Mark Sanchez to Denver!!!

Also, RG3 is visiting the Jets. I mean, Griffin in the glare of the NY media..... what could go wrong??

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

So much for us avoiding bad contracts, we just offered Chris Hogan $12M/3. Would have preferred Jermaine Kearse at $13.5M/3.

The hogan contract is a bit strange, but whenever I saw him play for buffalo against us he was decent and basically screamed future Patriot.

Expecting former sodhat favourite Rod Streater to sign as well. Appears we are approaching WR like we did CB last off season - sign a bunch of vets, probably draft a couple too and let them battle in camp

[mikeygnfl]

Nooooo!!! Mark Sanchez to Denver!!!

Also, RG3 is visiting the Jets. I mean, Griffin in the glare of the NY media..... what could go wrong??

It looks like Mark Sanchez got a bit lucky... Unless he loses out to some rookie like Paxton Lynch.

[mikeygnfl]

Hopefully awaiting news that Colin Kaepernick has been traded to the Browns... That said I could see Chip Kelly bringing in Johnny Manziel to compete with Blaine Gabbert and possibly Jared Goff.

[Number-25]

NFL competition committee is looking at ways of further protecting QBs. Yeah why not? Let's just make any contact at all with the QB illegal. In fact, we could just do away with offensive and defensive lines altogether and have a guy standing around chucking a ball to wide receivers that defensive backs aren't allowed to touch either.

[Pr4wn]

Eric Weddle said that he wanted to join a Superbowl contender in a city that was nice for his kids to go to school in.

So he signed with the Baltimore Ravens.

Money talks.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Forte did the same thing basically

It's all talk - they're gonna go where they get paid most

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So Chandler Jones to Arizona for a 2nd round pick and a horrible bust guard.

Nice one Bill

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Basically pretty much he wasn't going to 're-sign him and wanted to get something above a comp pick in return

Jones is a very good player, but he's had injury issues throughout his career effecting his play making him inconsistent. Be interested to see where he fits in the Arizona defence, being a 4-3 DE

[twelve283]

Basically pretty much he wasn't going to 're-sign him and wanted to get something above a comp pick in return

Jones is a very good player, but he's had injury issues throughout his career effecting his play making him inconsistent. Be interested to see where he fits in the Arizona defence, being a 4-3 DE

If BB knows for sure he's not going to re-sign him then I like the move, gives us some cap space, 2nd round pick and Scar gets to kick the tyres of a former first round OL. I like Sheard to be a able to step in for Jones.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

You saw what Vernon got, Jones is better than him for sure and there's no way we'd have been able to go anywhere near that figure

It's typical Belichick - selling a year before and being early rather than leaving it too late

What's the draft like for DE's this year?

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What if he plays well and wants to be paid accordingly? Seems like a real problem.

[TM Moot]

You saw what Vernon got, Jones is better than him for sure and there's no way we'd have been able to go anywhere near that figure

It's typical Belichick - selling a year before and being early rather than leaving it too late

What's the draft like for DE's this year?

Supposedly quite deep for big guys upfront.

[Pr4wn]

I'd say it's a bit more even than that. Jones is a quality edge rusher, probably better than anyone the Pats could get at the bottom of the second round. And Cooper has been a big, fat bust so far.

[GSC]

We just saw Denver win the SB with 4 alpha dogs up front that can all kick ass. And another 2 edge rushers that came off the bench.

Doesn't really make sense to me when Brady has a shrinking window to win another ring to trade your best pass rusher who is entering his prime for a late 2nd and a crappy guard. Barring injury you're likely getting a season of high production from Jones. Nothing is guaranteed from a draft pick, and nothing is expected of Cooper.

Belichick is an all time great, but sometimes he tries for a smartest guy in the room style move.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

He's doing what's kept us in contention for 15 years and got us to five straight AFC title games - always looking ahead. He's always one to let somebody go a year early than keep them a year too long.

It'll hurt us for sure, but Ninkovich/Sheard are good starters, Long could be decent backup and they must like Grissom/Flowers who they drafted last year.

Big move for the Arizona defence though - potentially pushes that unit over the top if Markus Golden continues to progress too

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That logic really doesn't work as well for a guy who just turned 26.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Marty Bennett and a 6th rounder for a 4th round pick

Tidy

[Pr4wn]

That would be the same Martellus Bennett who is said to be a locker room cancer.

Chicago did better out of that trade. They got rid of him and got Zach Miller who is an upgrade, at least on recent form.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I would agree about the locker room cancer thing if he was going to like Cleveland or something

Hes a seriously talented TE if he's got his head on right - which again they'll think he can do

Either way he can't be worse than Scott chandler was

[Pr4wn]

And hopefully he doesn't murder anyone.

[Number-25]

Martellus Bennett = overrated

Talking of TEs, I'm loving the sound of Baylor's 400lb TE LaQuan McGowan. Would be so much fun watching a 400lb TE running over the top of a 190lb DB.

[Lowlandbrit]

Here's this year's coaches photo from the NFL annual meeting:


Unfortunately Andy Reid and his Hawaiian shirts were among the no-shows this year. I also have to admit that even though I probably know all the names, I'd be happy if I could correctly identify more than half those people without help.

[Number-25]

Jeff Fisher looks like he's feeling John Fox's arse

[Number-25]

Good luck Cleveland

[crazy_dave23]

Good luck Cleveland

What could possibly go wrong...

[Number-25]

Redskins, of course, play Cleveland in Washington in this upcoming season....... Gulp.

[Fernando]

Thursday night games will be streamed on twitter for free.

[Pr4wn]

Too bad they're usually terrible.

[Lowlandbrit]

Too bad they're usually terrible.

Supposedly they'll all have the Color Rush uniforms everyone hated so much too.

[TM Moot]

Too bad they're usually terrible.

Supposedly they'll all have the Color Rush uniforms everyone hated so much too.

yep, was optional last year, going to be mandatory from now on

[Lowlandbrit]

D’Brickashaw Ferguson is retiring. Here's the only snap he wasn't on the field for in his entire career with the Jets:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVKxyBazlhw

[Fernando]

Former New Orleans Saints Player Will Smith has been shot dead in a road rage incident. He got rear-ended confronted the guy and they pulled out a handgun and shot him.

[Pr4wn]

Very sad news, that.

Americans...

[crazy_dave23]

This a new one that I couldn't have seen coming...
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15185642/suspended-josh-gordon-cleveland-browns-fails-drug-test

[Number-25]

Distinct lack of Draft chat on here this year... usually we have entire threads devoted to it. Anyone excited about it yet? It's only 2 weeks away now.

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