Ongoing NFL Discussion Thread V

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

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Time for Carolina to pull out some starters me thinks

[Number-25]

I'll argue the positives of that game if I ever find any.

One thing I will say, I saw that flag on Norman for the hands to the face. he err brushed Bryant's facemask. How can you be so picky about that and not flag the blatant hits to the helmet Newton suffered last week? Seems we are in for another inconsistent season from the refs again.

Yeah, don't look too hard skins... there are no positives. Unless you regard Dustin Hopkins still being a good Kicker and Tress Way still being a good Punter as positives??

[skins4ever]

The NFL has always been reactionary on stuff like that. Hits to the head became a talking point so they cut it down.

But that's my point. There are helmet hits going on and NOT getting flagged when they should, and the give a ticky tacky call for brushing the facemask with your open hand? If you are going to call everything, and if you are going to allow judgement, try to be consistent. Seems too random still.

[Lowlandbrit]

Browns are down another QB, Cody Kessler will be starting Sunday. Kind of want to see them start a different QB every game.

[skins4ever]

Odds are the Browns lose another QB during their bye week...

[skins4ever]

Josh Gordon's now had an arrest warrant issued against him for failure to take a court mandated paternity test. Are the Borwns cursed or something?

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Yes

Corey Coleman broke his hand as well

[Pr4wn]

Poor Browns fans. Honestly, that is such a brutal start to the season for them.

[skins4ever]

Things can't be all that bad for them though - they haven't signed Mark Sanchez...

[Pr4wn]

Yet.

They could pay us a king's ransom for Mike Glennon though, if they want.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Julian Edelman backup QB

What a time to be alive

[GSC]

Who knew giving 72m to a QB who got benched for a QB who throws as hard as I do was a bad idea.

[Pr4wn]

It seems everyone except the Texans knew that Osweiler wasn't that good.

[GSC]

Wondered at the time, what made Brock Osweiler a major improvement over Brian Hoyer.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

He isn't good, but he wasn't helped by the most conservative gameplan/play calling I've seen in a long time

It's the Patriots defence - not the 85 Bears Bill O'B

Those 3rd and 7/8 runs were abhorrent when you have Hopkins pretty much catching everything within a five mile radius of him

[Pr4wn]

Just shows a total lack of faith in a QB that you just paid $72m.

[GSC]

Yeah they ran it because they flat out didn't want to put the ball in his hands.

[Pr4wn]

Anyone for the chat box?

[Lowlandbrit]

Vikings have nothing but punting and defense and are only two down to the Panthers. This is all set to be the most 'what if?' season any team's ever had.

[crazy_dave23]

Seems like everyone is missing XPs today

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Minnesota's defence is really bloomin good

[Number-25]

Is there any actual point anymore to the NFL's instant replay system? It just seems to be a system these days that is used to confirm the ruling on the field even if that ruling is wrong.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Just end the Jaguars and Titans already

[Lowlandbrit]

Dolphins heading to OT with the Browns.

[crazy_dave23]

The Browns may still be the Browns...

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Just end both the Dolphins and Browns for the good of football

[Number-25]

Well I'm very pleased with that one... not least because the Redskins season was on the line tonight but also cos the Giants player's have been running their mouths off about us for 2 weeks now and it's always extra satisfying to shut any team up when they've been doing that.... especially when means winning in NY.

Defense came up huge in that 4th quarter... although you always fancy your chances of INT or 2 when Eli is around.

[Lowlandbrit]

Full list of coaches that were in charge for at least 40 games and have a worse win% than Gus Bradley: Steve Spagnuolo, Rod Marinelli, Bert Bell (Eagles 1936-41).

[skins4ever]

Is there any actual point anymore to the NFL's instant replay system? It just seems to be a system these days that is used to confirm the ruling on the field even if that ruling is wrong.

If you are talking about the incomplete pass in the EZ that should have been a pick, definitely. Can't see what angel they had that ruled him OOB, but ball never hit the ground so he definitely had possession. Be nice if they explained why it was confirmed instead of just leaving us bemused.

At least it was a win, and barring the last play of the 1st half (and frankly, I'd have kicked the FG there as the Giants were always going to blitz), Cousins seemed to be much more in synch. No INT's.

Bit of a bitch about Hall though and hope Breeland isn't hurt bad.

On another note, do the entire Browns team have money on them going 0-16, or is this the result of RGIII walking into the locker room and them deciding they need to draft a QB next year?

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Carson Wentz is really good

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Russell Wilson refusing to slide finally catching up with him

[GSC]

Wilsons one of the best at protecting himself to be honest.

[skins4ever]

Carson Wentz is really good

He's good, but they are giving him a scheme that works well for his lack of playbook knowledge, and the Steelers secondary should have been shredded by now. Not knocking him, but wait until he comes up against a D like the Hawks or Broncos. Then we'll see if he's the real deal. He definitely worries me when the Skins play them. We've got injuries in the secondary like the Steelers and Barner could have a field day against our run D.

I'd also say the Eagles D is playing well which is probably helping keep the pressure down on the rookie. Right now they have to be favourites for the NFC East.

[GSC]

He's using the whole playbook Sam Bradford would've been using...

Personally I won't buy in until he beats the 07 Patriots left handed.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

What team doesn't have a scheme that doesn't suit their QB?

[GSC]

I'm loving the goal post moving. The Steelers were supposed to be his welcome to the NFL moment.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

He's got it all - cannon arm, but can also throw touch passes and anticipate throws. Making pre snap adjustments in and out of plays, and the thing I've been most impressed by is his pocket presence. He just looks so at home there.

Early days obviously but he looks the real deal. Obviously the browns passing on him means he's destined for greatness too

[JDizzle]

What team doesn't have a scheme that doesn't suit their QB?

The Tennessee Titans.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

What team doesn't have a scheme that doesn't suit their QB?

The Tennessee Titans.

I kinda admire the Titans - for 58 minutes a week they stubbornly play against their strengths to see if they can pull it back in the final two minutes playing to their strengths.

Mike Mularkey a step ahead of the curve on this one imo

[TM Moot]

Side issue, but what's happened to red button option to watch Red Zone on Sky Sports?

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

It's on that Sky Sports Mix channel instead now

[Number-25]

Wasn't there a guy called Foles had a great season in Philly once? What's he up to these days??

Great result for the Eagles last night... NFC East has been everyone's favourite division to bash for a few years now so it's nice to see one of the team's dish out a beating to one of the "big" teams.

[GSC]

Clearly Doug Pederson's scheme is too hot for the league to handle.

[GSC]

Thought it was time for the Saints to move on from Payton this offseason and start grooming a serious successor behind Brees. Mickey Loomis is lucky he's in big with the Owner as he's been consistently one of the worst GMs in the league.

The magics gone in NO. There's just an awful defense and a lot of empty yards left. The Superdome used to be a fortress, nobody is scared to go there anymore.

[GSC]

Warning to Romo about the dangers of rushing back from a back injury

[skins4ever]

I'd warn Romo not to return at all, but he'd ignore good advice. That ever elusive SB ring...

[skins4ever]

Kiss of death stat:

Wentz joins Mark Sanchez as the only rookies in NFL history to start and win each of his team’s first 3 games of a season. The 2009 Jets went 9-7 and lost in AFC Championship Game.

[Number-25]

I'm looking forward already to Wentz's first butt-fumble...

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Thought it was time for the Saints to move on from Payton this offseason and start grooming a serious successor behind Brees. Mickey Loomis is lucky he's in big with the Owner as he's been consistently one of the worst GMs in the league.

The magics gone in NO. There's just an awful defense and a lot of empty yards left. The Superdome used to be a fortress, nobody is scared to go there anymore.

The problem for the Saints is now the super dome is a hinderance. It's great for their offence to play there cos it makes them faster, but it makes opposing offences pretty much impossible to face.

Then when they go on the road their offence is crap cos they can't play outdoors, yet the defence plays better outdoors

End the franchise already

[crazy_dave23]

End the franchise already

Somewhat of a draconian approach...

[GSC]

The defense doesn't play well anywhere. They have crap players.

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