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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 9 Feb 2016 - 12:48

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The ICC have run some poor events in yesteryear but this is already taking the biscuit


No tickets on sale still, reports Delhi are pulling out as a host and Pakistan might not even be allowed to play. Oh and Australia have already announced their squad

But everything is "progressing smoothly" according to the latest ICC press release...

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Post by alfie Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 15:06

Olly wrote:England's fielding has been absolute sh1te all winter

Unfortunately they have a few in this outfit who aren't much good in the field. Can't pick a team just for their third discipline skills - or you'd end up with a collection of Jordans Smile
...but going forward i think they have to take it into consideration a lot more.

This game is over , by the way. Nothing to stop SA short of 220 ; and England aren't getting that. Frankly they look shot - have done since the first four overs.
At least they'll have to just come out swinging from the off so it might produce some entertainment.


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Post by VTR Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 15:11

Is this the worst England seam bowling attack of all time in any format? Not knee-jerking it really is awful

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Post by alfie Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 15:21

Topley back for the nineteenth. ghost

6 6

Oh dear. He will be worrying it might just be his last in an England shirt.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 15:22

Reece Topley is crap
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Post by alfie Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 15:25

Jordan now with the last. Six Yorkers needed...

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 15:29

This should be the last time we see Chris Jordan and Reece topley in an England shirt
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Post by alfie Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 15:30

229 it is.

Suppose it could have been worse after the power play Smile

I am now questioning the sense of sitting up in the small hours in Melbourne to watch limited over cricket...but at least tomorrow is Saturday.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 15:35

Alfie you're mental - it's got 133 all out after 17.5 overs written all over it
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 15:36

Well that was embarassing. Yes good batting, but utterly clueless bowling from England. Let's feed them a steady diet of wide half-volleys in the PP, that'll work. Pulled it back a bit in the middle with the spinners and Willey doing a decent job, but last few overs were dreadful again. Fielding woeful too, two dropped catches, both should have been taken comfortably, and a couple of awful misfields.

Will take something special from the batting to get close...

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Post by alfie Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 15:37

Olly wrote:This should be the last time we see Chris Jordan and Reece topley in an England shirt

I do think Willey is the one I'd be looking to go forward with...those two are simply not consistent enough for mine ; so I would be looking for alternatives. Though England rarely dump bowlers as suddenly as that...took a lot to get rid of Dernbach Smile

The home ODIs this summer present an opportunity to try some new talent so I suspect we will see a new face or two.

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Post by guildfordbat Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 15:40

For all the considerable failings of England's bowling and fielding, thought it was very good batting by de Kock to set South Africa up so well. As well as power and placement, he displayed fine awareness of where the fielders were and weren't.

On Alfie's point about potential England players who can actually field, I would give a shout to Ansari. Fine fielder both close in and on the rope. Unfortunately, he's still crocked from when his thumb was splattered last summer.

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Post by alfie Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 15:41

Olly wrote:Alfie you're mental - it's got 133 all out after 17.5 overs written all over it

Well yes. ... But it didn't start until 1am so I napped earlier in the day. Damage is done now I'm wired on coffee Smile

My attempts at mixing subtle hexes with serious comment in that innings came to nothing ( where is Trebell when we need him?) so I might as well go into full Duty mode and hope for a Buttler and Stokes miracle...

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Post by Duty281 Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 15:44

I think England will just make it - 230/7.

What's that? It's not a fifty over game? Well that shucks.

All out for 81.

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Post by alfie Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 15:44

guildfordbat wrote:For all the considerable failings of England's bowling and fielding, thought it was very good batting by de Kock to set South Africa up so well. As well as power and placement, he displayed fine awareness of where the fielders were and weren't.

On Alfie's point about potential England players who can actually field, I would give a shout to Ansari. Fine fielder both close in and on the rope. Unfortunately, he's still crocked from when his thumb was splattered last summer.

Yes we should not forget to praise the excellent SA batting. It was outstanding - even if some of it resembled School Bully versus first formers...

Ansari taking a long time to mend ?

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 15:45

Time for a Roy special? If ever we need Stewart's talk of him batting 16 overs winning us the game it's today Wink



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Post by alfie Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 15:49

Roy starts with a four ...two of them in fact.

Ahead of the rate Smile

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Post by guildfordbat Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 15:53

Mad for Chelsea wrote:Time for a Roy special? If ever we need Stewart's talk of him batting 16 overs winning us the game it's today Wink


12 overs is the Stewart line but, yes, you're right there. Roy and wides get us to 21 off the first over - I'll stick with that! Wink

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 15:54

That Roy straight drive was pure sex
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Post by alfie Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 15:54

21 from the over...

RRR now down to just 11 per over from here Smile

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 15:58

WHAT IS GOING ON
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Post by alfie Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 16:00

Wonder if there is any rain about ...and what the Duckworth Lewis is after five...

'cos they surely can't keep going like this ? And they don't ...Hales lbw.
48/1

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Post by Duty281 Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 16:04

Ben Stokes in at 3? 56 off three overs?

England, my darling, this is not like you. Please stop it.

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Post by guildfordbat Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 16:08

Whatever happens from now, pleased at least that Roy is showing some of the ability I've been boring the Surrey boys here about for years! His highest t20 international score in this knock.

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Post by alfie Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 16:15

guildfordbat wrote:Whatever happens from now, pleased at least that Roy is showing some of the ability I've been boring the Surrey boys here about for years! His highest t20 international score in this knock.

Was quite an innings. Unfortunately one too many funky shots sees him out...seven overs too early Smile

At least his onslaught has brought the chase back to the realms of the possible. With a deep batting lineup and several powerful bats to come , England can see a path to success now.

Still going to be very difficult...with Tahir looming as the big obstacle.

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Post by jimbohammers Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 16:19

Class stuff from Roy.

Root in ahead of buttler? Madness

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Post by guildfordbat Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 16:22

Alfie - I fear wickets more likely from here than 10 an over being scored off the next 14 overs but let's see ....

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Post by alfie Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 16:28

Well yes ...three wickets fallen already and you're probably right , guildford : more will likely fall.

But if England can keep it ticking over for the next few overs and Buttler gets off to a good start ...you never know.

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Post by guildfordbat Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 16:35

We need boundaries off a ''making up the numbers'' bowler like Duminy rather than singles.

And now he gets Morgan!

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Post by alfie Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 16:36

Morgan out.

Bit disappointed in his effort today...needed to be more pro-active against the spinners , I reckon. Too much fiddling about when a couple of big hits might have set SA back on their heels. As it is the spinners have dragged England right back.

Leaving a lot of work for Buttler

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 16:37

Need a Jos Buttler special here....

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 16:39

Why is Jos Buttler coming in at 6 when we're chasing 230?

Like seriously
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Post by alfie Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 16:46

Olly wrote:Why is Jos Buttler coming in at 6 when we're chasing 230?

Like seriously

Well in fact ; if Buttler plays one of his "specials" , they have ample time to do it from this position. So I can't be too critical of what they've done.
They have actually got ahead of SA at this stage...and Buttler is the best "finisher".

It may not work ; but hard to fault the tactics.

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Post by guildfordbat Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 16:48

At last we get on top of Duminy. Good over that for England. I would have ''banked'' Duminy after his first couple of overs and settled for his return from those then.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 16:52

alfie wrote:
Olly wrote:Why is Jos Buttler coming in at 6 when we're chasing 230?

Like seriously

Well in fact ;  if Buttler plays one of his "specials" , they have ample time to do it from this position.  So I can't be too critical of what they've done.
They have actually got ahead of SA at this stage...and Buttler is the best "finisher".

It may not work ; but hard to fault the tactics.

Hmm I'd have wanted to give him as many balls as possible
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Post by alfie Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 16:54

guildfordbat wrote:At last we get on top of Duminy. Good over that for England. I would have ''banked'' Duminy after his first couple of overs and settled for his return from those then.

I know Duminy is only a part timer : but all the evidence today is that the quicker bowlers are the ones to target...

Not surprised SA used him for perhaps one too many - it gives them just a little flexibility. Which they might need with Steyn going round the park .

These two scoring at 12 per over and it's under ten per now...

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 16:57

South African commentators doing their best to jinx it - boy I'll be glad when I don't have to listen to these buffoons anymore
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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 16:57

Required run rate sticking at around 10 atm. That's OK providing England don't lose wickets for several more overs.

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 17:00

SA conceded 18 in wides so far. That could make a big difference.

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Post by GSC Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 17:03

What an incredible game this can be at times. SA desperate for a wicket. Wide number 19
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Post by alfie Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 17:03

Only just above nine per over now...

A lot can go wrong in five overs though. Tahir into his last - important over.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 17:04

This Tahir over is crucial
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 17:06

Oh no
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Post by GSC Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 17:06

Buttler stumped. The game swings again.
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Post by alfie Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 17:07

Damn !

Buttler gone...Tahir the Destroyer of English Hope.

Not that it's dead , exactly : but if they'd stayed in that over , England would have been strong favourites.

All to do now...

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 17:08

If they don't bring willey in ahead of Rashid Jordan etc I'm gonna cry
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 17:09

Buttler was actually out caught as well - good keeping by De Kock
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Post by temporary21 Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 17:09

Whatever happens, fair play to England, they've given this a real go

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Post by guildfordbat Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 17:10

Shouldn't the ball that dismissed Buttler also have been signalled a wide?

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 17:10

Big over that for SA. A wicket and only 5 off the over. RRR climbs to over 10. Crucial that Root stays calm and sees England home.

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Post by guildfordbat Fri 18 Mar 2016 - 17:12

See that catch by the security guard - sign him up!

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