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Post by Jermaine2015 Mon 04 Jul 2016, 10:56 am

Seems as though the IBF/WBO unification fight between Brook and Vargas could be off. Both have been trading insults on social media. Vargas claims to be fighting Bradley instead now.


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Post by hazharrison Mon 04 Jul 2016, 12:43 pm

I'm hoping Hearn will get it over the line. It does appear (from the outside looking in)as though he's prioritsed Eubank vs Golovkin.

You can understand that but I imagine Team Brook will be furious if this one slips away (they seem to me to be cheesed off with the way he's been matched of late).

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Post by bellchees Mon 04 Jul 2016, 1:09 pm

A Kell Brook fight falling through? Now I've seen it all.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 04 Jul 2016, 1:28 pm

Three stiffs in a row has lowered interest in Kell....Which is a shame because I think he would fight anyone..

Good manager is Hearn but he needs to up his game with Brook..


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Post by hazharrison Mon 04 Jul 2016, 2:02 pm

I think we'll see this one finalised this week.

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Post by aja424 Mon 04 Jul 2016, 2:04 pm

Style wise, Brook is my favourite British fighter right now. So frustrating that he has left it to his 30's to be fighting at this level (if he does).

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Post by Guest Mon 04 Jul 2016, 2:07 pm

aja424 wrote:Style wise, Brook is my favourite British fighter right now. So frustrating that he has left it to his 30's to be fighting at this level (if he does).
Not that I can stand the guy but I think Mayweather matured as a fighter in his 30's. Like Brook, he doesn't ship too much punishment and I think Kell's career still has some way to go although cynics would suggest it simply means another 5 years of doing nothing.

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Post by hazharrison Mon 04 Jul 2016, 2:12 pm

I think Brook can round out his career against some big names. I wouldn't be surprised to see Thurman after Vargas.

Calzaghe was still fighting at European level (in all but name) at Brook's age. A final flourish to his career solidified him as a great fighter (for many).

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Post by aja424 Mon 04 Jul 2016, 2:16 pm

I'm hoping for the above. Suppose we'll just have to wait and see.

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Post by Guest Mon 04 Jul 2016, 3:18 pm

A small part of Brook will be hoping Eubank gets beaten because if he wins he leapfrogs Kell for a place in Eddie's affections

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Post by BoxingFan88 Mon 04 Jul 2016, 5:54 pm

DAVE667 wrote:A small part of Brook will be hoping Eubank gets beaten because if he wins he leapfrogs Kell for a place in Eddie's affections

Don't think he needs to be hoping anything, GGG will smash him

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Post by Guest Fri 08 Jul 2016, 5:20 pm

Kell Brook vs Gennady Golovkin

Wow

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Post by ShahenshahG Fri 08 Jul 2016, 5:25 pm

Laugh Khan to fight Kovalev next.

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Post by Jermaine2015 Fri 08 Jul 2016, 5:27 pm

So after Abel Sanchez slated Oscar and Alvarez for fighting Khan, his 'fearless prizefighter' is now also dipping his bread against a much smaller fighter...

GGG ruins Brook inside 6

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Post by kingraf Fri 08 Jul 2016, 5:31 pm

This is literally the funniest thing I've read today. Can actually imagine Brook saying to his camp "If Khan can do it so can I!" while everyone was trying to get him to see reason
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Post by Kareem61 Fri 08 Jul 2016, 5:32 pm

How is Brook a much smaller fighter? He's a massive welter and GGG isn't exactly a huge middleweight. Don't make such ridiculous statements. Nothing brooks shown to suggest he gets 'ruined".

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Post by kingraf Fri 08 Jul 2016, 5:36 pm

Yeah To be fair, Brook's the #1 man at 147lbs while Khan has never won a belt past 140lbs. He's also a bit taller than Khan etc.. But being real... He's getting iced
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 08 Jul 2016, 5:42 pm

Eubank would stop Brook...

Not even worth thinking about...

I'd buy GGG v Eubank but not this slaughter..

Won't happen..

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Post by mobilemaster8 Fri 08 Jul 2016, 5:45 pm

To be fair, i think Brook is a fantastic talent, decent power at Welter, good boxing ability, but hasnt beat that "Name" in the ring to expose his ability.

I just cant see anyone beating GGG. Maybe the home support upsets him for a few rounds, but he just tends to be able to do anything whether its box behind a jab, go to war, move....plus freakish power.

GGG to stop a brave and determined Brook in 10 and then will see Brook vs Khan next May.


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Post by BoxingFan88 Fri 08 Jul 2016, 5:53 pm

This fight is even more stupid than Canelo vs Khan

Its a monumental mismatch in which Kell Brook is going to take some serious damage, boxing commissions should intervene and stop this ludicrous mismatch

Kell has absolutely no chance and GGG will end it whenever he feels necessary

Anyone who thinks Kell goes past 6 is because GGG lets him

Style is a nightmare for Brook a pressure fighter (Carson Jones)

His arms are too short so he is going to have to step into GGG's range and GGG's jab will kill him

GGG obliterates middleweights, what is he going to do to a blown up welterweight

Shame on Hearn, GGG and Brook for this ludicrous fight, I heavily criticized Canelo and I will heavily criticize GGG

Its so obvious its for a good pay day for both of them and GGG deserves a good pay day with everyone ducking him, but not like this

Hopefully the commission throw it out if they have a shred of decency

Absolutely fuming

WEIGHT CLASSES EXIST FOR A REASON

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Post by spencerclarke Fri 08 Jul 2016, 5:55 pm

Big balls from Brook if this happens.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 08 Jul 2016, 5:56 pm

He isn't going to last 10...He's a welterweight that gets hit too much..

He went life and death with Porter...and struggled with Carson..

He's too small..

One has to remember GGG is in his mid 30s...when spouting he's unbeatable..

Also factor in he hasn't been tested..

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Post by kingraf Fri 08 Jul 2016, 5:57 pm

You can't seriously believe that the BBBofC are gonna even consider not sanctioning this?
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Post by Ronikara Fri 08 Jul 2016, 5:58 pm

This is insane. It looks like Chris Eubank Jr bottled it! And after all the crap he's been talking, he will be laughed out of the U.K.

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Post by spencerclarke Fri 08 Jul 2016, 6:01 pm

Can't imagine the Eubanks being happy.

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Post by bellchees Fri 08 Jul 2016, 6:05 pm

I wonder if GGG is testing the water at a lower weight limit in preparation to fight Canelo for the undisputed 155lb title? Have they said anything about the weight class yet? I'd be very surprised if this is at the full middleweight limit.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 08 Jul 2016, 6:05 pm

BBBC do what they are told....

Won't happen anyway....All talk to probably smokescreen a couple more stiffs for Brook..

Six years of stiffs and posters are salivating over a welterweight for GGG..

Gotta laugh

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Post by BoxingFan88 Fri 08 Jul 2016, 6:07 pm

bellchees wrote:I wonder if GGG is testing the water at a lower weight limit in preparation to fight Canelo for the undisputed 155lb title? Have they said anything about the weight class yet? I'd be very surprised if this is at the full middleweight limit.

Interesting take on it

But if Canelo wants to be a chicken his PPV sales are going to be affected, so he will soon have to come out of hiding, why not wait

Why bow down to a divas demands

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 08 Jul 2016, 6:07 pm

bellchees wrote:I wonder if GGG is testing the water at a lower weight limit in preparation to fight Canelo for the undisputed 155lb title? Have they said anything about the weight class yet? I'd be very surprised if this is at the full middleweight limit.

GGG fans are as thick as Pig crap..

Money for old rope is a price he has to pay for a cunning Canelo plan..

Bless him.

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Post by Guest Fri 08 Jul 2016, 6:08 pm

GGG has fought nobody, Martin Murray went 10 rounds & Brook is only stepping up one weight division, whereas Khan went up two & was small, whereas Brook is a big welter.

Closer than you think this.

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Post by bellchees Fri 08 Jul 2016, 6:10 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:BBBC do what they are told....

Won't happen anyway....All talk to probably smokescreen a couple more stiffs for Brook..

Six years of stiffs and posters are salivating over a welterweight for GGG..

Gotta laugh

Is anyone Salivating over this? Can't see anyone picking Kell Brook to survive let alone win.

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Post by ShahenshahG Fri 08 Jul 2016, 6:11 pm

bellchees wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:BBBC do what they are told....

Won't happen anyway....All talk to probably smokescreen a couple more stiffs for Brook..

Six years of stiffs and posters are salivating over a welterweight for GGG..

Gotta laugh

Is anyone Salivating over this? Can't see anyone picking Kell Brook to survive let alone win.

The post prior to yours Laugh

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Post by bellchees Fri 08 Jul 2016, 6:13 pm

ShahenshahG wrote:
bellchees wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:BBBC do what they are told....

Won't happen anyway....All talk to probably smokescreen a couple more stiffs for Brook..

Six years of stiffs and posters are salivating over a welterweight for GGG..

Gotta laugh

Is anyone Salivating over this? Can't see anyone picking Kell Brook to survive let alone win.

The post prior to yours Laugh

Yeah I saw that after I posted, this will be very one sided and a poor fight really for Golovkin.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 08 Jul 2016, 6:17 pm

I apologise if I've been rude....

I remember the crap Floyd got for Alvarez and Manny...

Amuses me the double standards...

Time for this guy to take on a Degale or a 168 champ and do what Oscar..Roy..Floyd and Manny did and move up and test himself..

Had enough easy pay days now....We'll give him middleweight. .

Have a good weekend..

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Post by kingraf Fri 08 Jul 2016, 6:18 pm

Apparently Eubank missed the deadline so Hearn decided to throw GGG a bone (almost literally really). Comical
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Post by Coxy001 Fri 08 Jul 2016, 6:40 pm

Khan vs Ginger boy.

This one takes the biscuit. And at least junior can take a shot.

Talk about oneupmanship. Brook has won that by a mile now.


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Post by ShahenshahG Fri 08 Jul 2016, 6:47 pm

Depends if he makes it past the first round.

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Post by Coxy001 Fri 08 Jul 2016, 7:06 pm

I actually give him a shot. Not much of one but it's a better fight on paper than you think..

£1000 Brook UD

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Post by Rowley Fri 08 Jul 2016, 7:29 pm

Will never slag a guy off for testing themselves against the best so fair play to Brook. Truss is right though, a little disappointing from GGG, if a top tier middle cannot find challengers at his own weight I'd prefer him to look north rather than south.

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Post by hazharrison Fri 08 Jul 2016, 7:51 pm

Fair play to Brook - he's proven a lot of people wrong in taking this fight.

Disappointed with the fight and with Golovkin. I wanted GGG vs Canelo and Brook vs Khan rather than a pair of mismatches.

I think Brook is a far livelier underdog than Khan, but unfortunately for him, he's in with a much tougher favourite.

The fight is 160 by the way - no catchweight.

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Post by Guest Fri 08 Jul 2016, 7:55 pm

I am wondering how many rounds Kell Brook will last. I reckon he will make it to ten ... seconds.

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Post by Herman Jaeger Fri 08 Jul 2016, 8:00 pm

I actually quite like this fight and Brook has got balls, but this has been very embarrassing from the Eubanks. No reason to chide Golovkin as this is a live opponent imo. I'll stick with this, he has no reason to move up till he's unified at middle.

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Post by milkyboy Fri 08 Jul 2016, 8:35 pm

I'd have given brook a shot at Alvarez and Alvarez a shot at golovkin... But brook golovkin?

It's like brook's looked at Khan and thought, his rep is still intact, mine will be too. What he needs to worry about is whether his head is still intact. Khan had already been knocked out before, brook might in principle still have those big fights available at welter... But will he still have the belief to win any of them. He's thinking its a no lose money maker. I think he has more to lose than he realises.

Very brave, very admirable, equally foolhardy, and completely unnecessary.

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Post by Dipper Brown Fri 08 Jul 2016, 8:47 pm

Didn't see this coming, but I can guess how it will end.

Comparisons with Khan? Khan won 3 or 4 rounds before being knocked out cold. Dont see any way Brook picks up rounds. Just a one sided beating however long it lasts.

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Post by Rowley Fri 08 Jul 2016, 8:58 pm

Whilst the circumstances make comparisons with Khan Alvarez inevitable I am not sure they are too instructive. Khan has one fundamental flaw in his arsenal, he has, to be blunt, no chin and so against a guy two divisions up with decent power it was always a question of time. 

Whilst Golovkin hits harder than Alvarez it seems pretty clear Brook has a decent set of whiskers, only time he has really been in trouble was against Jones and that was a lack of fitness and ill discipline outside the ring that caused his issues. 

That is not to say he will win this, but there is no guarantee this fight is just a matter of how long it takes GGG to to land, which was always the case in the Khan fight.

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Post by Guest Fri 08 Jul 2016, 9:15 pm

Boxers with a weak chin tend to avoid brain damage and associated effects. As soon as they get hit with a good shot they go down, lights out.

It is those with a good chin that get brain injuries. It is the volume of concussive punches that does the damage. That said I would be surprised if Brook doesn't get knocked out on the first clean good punch that GGG lands.

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Post by milkyboy Fri 08 Jul 2016, 9:16 pm

... He was wobbled by senchenko. I think his whiskers are fine, but that's against Welters and he's never fought a noted banger. If his chin doesn't go his ribs will.

'Everyone knows I'm a big welter' Kel brook July 2016

'Everyone knows I'm only a welter' Kel brook Sept 2016.

By the way, I don't blame him for taking the money... Just don't see how he's competitive. I like brook as a fighter and the Carson Jones quips are irrelevant as he was a slacker then... But he's not powerful enough to keep golovkin honest nor elusive enough to avoid the artillery.

Hope I'm wrong.

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Post by bellchees Fri 08 Jul 2016, 10:24 pm

I think the big difference between this and the Khan vs Alvarez fight is that if Khan and Alvarez were the same size you'd probably make Khan a favourite, would Brook be a favourite against Golovkin if he wasn't giving up the size advantage? I don't think he would be. Style wise I think Golovkin is all wrong for him and just flat out better than him. Add to it he's a naturally bigger guy and Brook gets flattened here.

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Post by Mr Bounce Fri 08 Jul 2016, 10:56 pm

This is a "Me too, Amir" exercise for Brook and a "gimme" for Golovkin. 

Nothing but a cynical money making show. Are there really that few opponents at middle or welter? Am disappointed with both camps. There are better fights out there for both, and I  cannot see anything but a painful loss for Brook.

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Post by milkyboy Fri 08 Jul 2016, 11:18 pm

Coxy001 wrote:Khan vs Ginger boy.

This one takes the biscuit. And at least junior can take a shot.

Talk about oneupmanship. Brook has won that by a mile now.


Yep, when he's lying in a crumpled heap on the floor, he'll be thinking 'anything you can do, Amir...'

kel will get the last laugh though. Khan thought he could fight Alvarez and still get brook... brook has outmanoeuvred him by taking a potentially career-ending early fight.

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