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Post by hazharrison on Thu 06 Apr 2017, 3:46 pm

Off to Manchester to watch this one on Saturday. Who wins?

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Post by Derbymanc on Thu 06 Apr 2017, 5:12 pm

Not a scooby, just hope it's a cracking night for you (for any forces/ex forces, tickets for troops have got a couple of tickets left for this)

Just remember all you smokers, you can't leave the MEN once your in there and pints are a fiver (although Wetherspoons in the printworks is cheaper if your not going in straight away :-)

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Post by AdamT on Thu 06 Apr 2017, 7:55 pm

I haven't seen a lot of Williams, but he has a nice aggressive style and good ability.

I don't know who I pick. In a close fight like this, perhaps experience counts. Smith has good timing and is a very good boxer. Can't fault him too hard for Canelo, who is a top guy at 160, never mind 154/55.

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Post by hazharrison on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 6:48 am

Canelo is a top guy at 160, even though he's never fought at the 160 limit (or fought a natural 160 pounder)?

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Post by BoxingFan88 on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 8:08 am

I just think Smith is too good

But I'll be rooting for Williams

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Post by Rodney on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 9:28 am

I've picked Williams by stoppage , isn't much between these two guys but I think Williams has more in his arsenal. Smith adopts the same Joe Gallagher style - feet are set and slow with high guard, If Williams can use his head and not get carried away he could score decent damage and stop him late on.

Enjoy mate - should be a good bill - I like nights at the MEN, Nynex whatever you call it nowadays.

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Post by Derbymanc on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 9:37 am

Rodney wrote:I've picked Williams by stoppage , isn't much between these two guys but I think Williams has more in his arsenal. Smith adopts the same Joe Gallagher style - feet are set and slow with high guard, If Williams can use his head and not get carried away he could score decent damage and stop him late on.

Enjoy mate - should be a good bill - I like nights at the MEN, Nynex whatever you call it nowadays.

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Post by AdamT on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 9:55 am

hazharrison wrote:Canelo is a top guy at 160, even though he's never fought at the 160 limit (or fought a natural 160 pounder)?  

Of course he is. Imo he beats everyone in the division. In time he will be number one in the division. Anyway the thread is about this fight, not about Canelo, so we will leave that discussion for another day.

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Post by Rodney on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 11:14 am

AdamT wrote:
hazharrison wrote:Canelo is a top guy at 160, even though he's never fought at the 160 limit (or fought a natural 160 pounder)?  

Of course he is. Imo he beats everyone in the division. In time he will be number one in the division. Anyway the thread is about this fight, not about Canelo, so we will leave that discussion for another day.

Thought Canelo got lucky against Cotto in my opinion very little in the fight and Lara definitely beat him.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 11:19 am

Rodney wrote:
AdamT wrote:
hazharrison wrote:Canelo is a top guy at 160, even though he's never fought at the 160 limit (or fought a natural 160 pounder)?  

Of course he is. Imo he beats everyone in the division. In time he will be number one in the division. Anyway the thread is about this fight, not about Canelo, so we will leave that discussion for another day.

Thought Canelo got lucky against Cotto in my opinion very little in the fight and Lara definitely beat him.

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You don't like Canelo...

Me I thought they were both close fights and Canelo nicked both..........But as I'm not arsed about Canelo I can be objective.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 12:13 pm

I don't think the Cotto fight was particularly close, I thought Alvarez won it quite comfortably whereas the Lara fight was a case of what you like.

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Post by hazharrison on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 12:31 pm

I can't remember how I had the Cotto fight but it was a sterling effort from Cotto. I thought he proved he was the better all-round fighter of the two - he just wasn't the better 155 pounder. Canelo was too big.

Anyway, Smith vs Williams: potential domestic FOY?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 12:46 pm

hazharrison wrote:I can't remember how I had the Cotto fight but it was a sterling effort from Cotto. I thought he proved he was the better all-round fighter of the two - he just wasn't the better 155 pounder. Canelo was too big.

He lost...........It's a funny way of proving you're better than someone..

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 12:48 pm

I'm pretty sure that Roman Gonzalez is a better P4P boxer than Leo Santa Cruz but that wouldn't mean a thing in an actual fight, we should all applaud moral victories.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 12:48 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:I'm pretty sure that Roman Gonzalez is a better P4P boxer than Leo Santa Cruz but that wouldn't mean a thing in an actual fight, we should all applaud moral victories.

Don't be rational......

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Post by hazharrison on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 12:52 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
hazharrison wrote:I can't remember how I had the Cotto fight but it was a sterling effort from Cotto. I thought he proved he was the better all-round fighter of the two - he just wasn't the better 155 pounder. Canelo was too big.

He lost...........It's a funny way of proving you're better than someone..

Point.......phew......right over your head.....

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 12:56 pm

hazharrison wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
hazharrison wrote:I can't remember how I had the Cotto fight but it was a sterling effort from Cotto. I thought he proved he was the better all-round fighter of the two - he just wasn't the better 155 pounder. Canelo was too big.

He lost...........It's a funny way of proving you're better than someone..

Point.......phew......right over your head.....

Bless you.........You can't help yourself.

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Post by hazharrison on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 1:02 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
hazharrison wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
hazharrison wrote:I can't remember how I had the Cotto fight but it was a sterling effort from Cotto. I thought he proved he was the better all-round fighter of the two - he just wasn't the better 155 pounder. Canelo was too big.

He lost...........It's a funny way of proving you're better than someone..

Point.......phew......right over your head.....

Bless you.........You can't help yourself.

Pointing out ignorance? Yeah, big problem of mine. Still, ten more steps comrade.

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Post by hazharrison on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 1:05 pm

Smith vs Williams anyone? Williams now a slight favourite.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 1:12 pm

Rodney wrote:I've picked Williams by stoppage , isn't much between these two guys but I think Williams has more in his arsenal. Smith adopts the same Joe Gallagher style - feet are set and slow with high guard, If Williams can use his head and not get carried away he could score decent damage and stop him late on.

Enjoy mate - should be a good bill - I like nights at the MEN, Nynex whatever you call it nowadays.

Cheers

I think Gallagher fighters spend too much time being taught to block rather than avoid.............Quigg and Crolla being two prime examples..

However we don't really know how much potential they had before he starting working with him...So there is a tendency to be a little harsh on Joe...

But I agree with your post about the style..

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Post by hazharrison on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 1:19 pm

Rodney wrote:I've picked Williams by stoppage , isn't much between these two guys but I think Williams has more in his arsenal. Smith adopts the same Joe Gallagher style - feet are set and slow with high guard, If Williams can use his head and not get carried away he could score decent damage and stop him late on.

Enjoy mate - should be a good bill - I like nights at the MEN, Nynex whatever you call it nowadays.

Cheers

Great Arena (fancy it may be a bit quieter than usual the rate they're giving tickets out - I won mine).

Grand National, sunshine. Should be a great day.

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Post by Derbymanc on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 1:20 pm

How did you win em Haz?



On another note, tickets for troops has 2 tickets per person for A New Era (manchester Sat 08th Apr)
Beautiful Brutality (Liverpool, 22nd Apr)
Burns vs Indongo (Glasgow 15th Apr)

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Post by hazharrison on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 1:34 pm

Derbymanc wrote:How did you win em Haz?



On another note, tickets for troops has 2 tickets per person for A New Era (manchester Sat 08th Apr)
Beautiful Brutality (Liverpool, 22nd Apr)
Burns vs Indongo (Glasgow 15th Apr)

Comp. on Twitter (possibly through BoxNation). To be honest, I don't remember entering. Shame I missed top prize: 2 x £500 tickets, free bar, canapes, waitress service, the lot.

Still, can't grumble. I'll be "warm" by the time I get off the train!

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Post by Mr Bounce on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 10:04 pm

Smith hasn't made weight. Shockingly poor preparation.

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Post by BoxingFan88 on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 11:51 pm

Really poor from Smith

Also he thought he had 1 hour instead of two?

I know the Mc messed up but surely they know the rules???

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Post by Derbymanc on Sat 08 Apr 2017, 9:20 am

One thing that really annoys me is them missing weight, shouldn't be happening at all in this day and age

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Sat 08 Apr 2017, 7:51 pm

Even stevens

They're both 10/11 with Paddy Power, Smith was 5/6 overnight:


https://sports.paddypower.mobi/#sport/15/Popular

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Sat 08 Apr 2017, 9:49 pm

Smith got problems here

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sat 08 Apr 2017, 9:51 pm

The Williams jab dominating so far.

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Sat 08 Apr 2017, 9:55 pm

Smith is taking a pasting. Have him losing everything.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sat 08 Apr 2017, 10:03 pm

Managed to get £10 on a Williams stoppage win at 3/1 after the 3rd which is looking decent right now.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sat 08 Apr 2017, 10:10 pm

Balls, looks like Williams is blowing hard now.

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Sat 08 Apr 2017, 10:13 pm

Unsatisfactory finish

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sat 08 Apr 2017, 10:14 pm

That's very poor from Lockett; Nick Blackwell has finished him as an effective corner man.

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Sat 08 Apr 2017, 10:16 pm

Had to be stopped

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Sat 08 Apr 2017, 10:17 pm

Wow. Firstly....Stopped on a cut from a head clash....It happens.....But secondly....1 point up?! What?! No chance. Absolute no chance. He was at least 3-4 up!! Smith just walked forward with no head movement.

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Post by Steffan on Sat 08 Apr 2017, 10:17 pm

Haven't felt this bad since Wales lost to England last year in the Euros

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Sat 08 Apr 2017, 10:18 pm

Now for the Flanagan hype train.....

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sat 08 Apr 2017, 10:22 pm

Williams coming across far better than Smith in the post fight interview; still think that's very poor by Lockett and doesn't happen before Blackwell.

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Sat 08 Apr 2017, 10:24 pm

Williams came across very well in the post fight

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Sat 08 Apr 2017, 10:24 pm

Head caused the cut for me

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Post by Steffan on Sat 08 Apr 2017, 10:25 pm

Ah well to be fair no one gave the little Taffy a chance against the mighty Englishman. I thought Lockett could have kept him in for the remaining rounds. The Welshman was wining. Rematch I hope

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Sat 08 Apr 2017, 10:25 pm

Yeh agree Hammer to an extent. He will always feel that pressure going forward. Don't think he should actually work the corner going forward like you say.

A rematch is needed here. Williams will win handily.

That it was pretty bad though.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sat 08 Apr 2017, 10:36 pm

It was a decent fight either way and a rematch is definitely needed.

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Sat 08 Apr 2017, 10:43 pm

On another note, and I'm trying very hard not to come across as sexist, but this Nicola Adams fight is the first woman's boxing match I've watch. It's absolutely ridiculous. It just looks out of place and odd. Sorry. Women shouldn't be in the ring.

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Sat 08 Apr 2017, 11:06 pm

If Terry O'Connor thought it was a punch then I hope the boxing board review it and call it a no contest

Smith coming on though would have been a great finish

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Post by spencerclarke on Sat 08 Apr 2017, 11:19 pm

Shame about the stoppage I was enjoying the fight and it was just turning into a barnstormer.

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Sat 08 Apr 2017, 11:42 pm

Flanagan is sooooooo poor.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sat 08 Apr 2017, 11:45 pm

He's a usual southpaw that looks worse than he is, sums it up when the undercard fight was more interesting than the world title fight.

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Post by spencerclarke on Sat 08 Apr 2017, 11:55 pm

This is terrible. I always want to really like Terry but it's hard to with these styles of fights

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