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Post by hazharrison on Fri 14 Apr 2017, 9:22 am

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AdamT wrote:I don't care about him calling out Floyd lol. He can't move up a division, but will move down to fight a smaller man.

You all cream yourselves over him, so yes that suggests you think he is great.

Who "creams themselves" over him? Do you have any examples of this gushing praise? Any articles claiming he's "top ten definitely" etc.?

Ward and Hopkins both called Floyd out, too. It's because they'd make a fortune to fight a guy who couldn't pop a balloon.


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Post by milkyboy on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 12:59 pm

I'm not a fan of ward's style and would be perfectly happy if kov wipes the smug grin off his face hermy.

I hope it's a fair fight and will take a view afterwards on how fair the ref was and the scoring is, if judges are needed.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 1:21 pm

Carry on defending the racist scum if you want, like minded people tend to stick together.

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 1:37 pm

From the man who defends woman beaters and pimps

Why can't I just defend him because I want him to win?

Why do you have to lower the tone hammer?

This is a classy forum keep it classy please Cool

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 1:44 pm

You are what you are Herman.

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 1:46 pm

Just keep it classy and then we can all enjoy the fight

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 1:58 pm

Looking forward to this one - think I had Ward winning the last one by max 2 rounds but could see why it was classed as a bit "ropey". Was a good solid fight.

This one should be better - bit more emotion involved and a bit of of a heated build up.

Think Ward will scrape past again in a tough fight - but wouldnt be surprised to see Kov win to set up a trilogy - especially given Stevenson has absolutely no intention of fighting anyone.

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Post by AdamT on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 6:06 pm

I've seen the weigh in. Was leaving to Kovalev, but I think Ward wins this. Tough, but clear decision.

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 7:34 pm

Will Kovalev tire again or will the extra conditioning see him home?

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Post by Muscular-mouse on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 9:13 pm

what time is kick off?

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Post by TheSquaredCircle on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 9:37 pm

I think Kovalev will make some adjustments. I wonder whether he will try walking ward down more this time.

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 10:55 pm

TheSquaredCircle wrote:I think Kovalev will make some adjustments. I wonder whether he will try walking ward down more this time.


He knows Ward can't hurt him so he may go out there and chuck the kitchen sink

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Post by Guest on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 3:17 am

The absolute f**kery after this Rigondeaux fight is embarrassing.

The ref doesn't even know what day it is. Paulie's commentary is superb in all of this.

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Post by alanqlm on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 3:32 am

Really wish Rigo could land a decent promoter who could get him out regularly. Imagine the star he'd be by now if he was British and had Hearn and Matchroom behind all that talent.

The ending there was a farce though. Absolutely spot on about Paulie possibly the best in the business behind the mic already.

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Post by owen10ozzy on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 4:18 am

Kovalev takes the 1st for me...busier fighter and straight away unlike last time he is throwing punches on the inside..

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Post by owen10ozzy on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 4:23 am

Two rounds to zip...beautiful jab working for Kovalev...Ward looks perplexed right now..

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Post by owen10ozzy on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 4:27 am

Very impressed by Kov so far,pacing himself and picking the right moments to attack...when he isn't he is just popping off the jab to stop Ward from working, actually making it look easy at the moment...3-0.

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Post by Guest on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 4:29 am

Ward is all over the shop.

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Post by owen10ozzy on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 4:31 am

Best round for Ward so far, landed the more hurtful shots and timed the Kovalev jab much better..3-1 Kovalev

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Post by owen10ozzy on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 4:35 am

Very tight round to score...10-10 for me but the 1 big shot came from Ward and that's probably enough for him to shade it with the judges..49-47 Kovalev for me atm

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 4:36 am

Have 4-1 Kovalev. Started a lot better than I thought.

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Post by owen10ozzy on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 4:40 am

Good combination at the end of that round from Ward, but wasn't enough to take it in my opinion. Kovalev back on top with the jab and 2 lovely over the top rights. 59-56

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 4:40 am

Kovalev 3 up through 6 for me

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Post by owen10ozzy on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 4:43 am

Ward again closing the round better but just isn't doing enough throughout first 2 and half...Kovalev is winning the battle of the jabs...69-66..

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 4:44 am

Kovalev up by 4

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Post by owen10ozzy on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 4:46 am

WTF.....What just happened..

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 4:48 am

I'm done with boxing

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Post by Guest on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 4:48 am

Gritty by Ward.

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Post by owen10ozzy on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 4:49 am

Ward just won a fight by basically punching his opponent in the man sausage!

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Post by Guest on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 4:49 am

Lower than a snake's belly.

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 4:50 am

So headbutts and low blows. What. Not sure what plant boxing is on these days.

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Post by owen10ozzy on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 4:54 am

Wow Kellerman absolutely licking Ward's backside!

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Post by Guest on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 4:57 am

AJ getting a mention over Wilder in regards to heavyweight boxing, there!

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Post by Guest on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 4:58 am

They look bloody low to me.

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 4:58 am

What is Weeks doing should have given Kovalev time to recover from low blow

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Post by owen10ozzy on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 4:58 am

Hahaha...Max Kellerman 'it looked borderline to me'...right after a clear replay showing a punch well below the belt. He basically uppercutted his man sausage off lol!

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Post by Guest on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 5:00 am

Kellerman has an agenda now he's debating Stephen A Smith everyday.

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Post by owen10ozzy on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 5:01 am

I had Kov 3 rounds up at the time of stoppage, though no denying Ward was having a big round! However the man just lacks class in the ring, such a dirty fighter. Even before the 3 low blows that stopped the fight he had caught Kov twice with such punches in the earlier rounds.

I'll tell you one thing, his faith in god definitely gets repayed, the man upstairs tuning in and lending a helping hand when he can clearly!

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 5:06 am

Absolute joke Weeks

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Post by Guest on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 5:09 am

It was worth staying up just for Paulie's mic work.

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Post by hazharrison on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 7:32 am

Had Kovalev up 4-2-1 but Ward was winning the 8th big. The finish was a shocker - you have to give top fighters the opportunity to fight back. Ward backers will argue it was academic and he'd have won anyway. Certainly looked that way but even if that finishing punch wasn't low (it was, and Ward should have had a point off) you can't stop fights of this magnitude like that.

Disappointing.

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Post by AdamT on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 8:17 am

Shambles! Kov was winning for sure. Ward was coming on strong, but we will never know if he could of stopped him clean, or even dominated the remaining rounds.

The low blows at the stoppage were real obvious.


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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 8:29 am

Nicely done Andre, now onto bigger and better things.

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Post by hazharrison on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 8:58 am

AdamT wrote:Shambles! Kov was winning for sure. Ward was coming on strong, but we will never know if he could of stopped him clean, or even dominated the remaining rounds.

The low blows at the stoppage were real obvious.


Ward was surely going to win going away down the straight but the stoppage really cocked things up. This is the same division that Yaqui Lopez fought Saad Muhammed!

If you stop every fight between top fighters the moment one looks hurt for the first time, guess what? No more great fights.

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Post by milkyboy on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 10:12 am

I haven't seen it yet, but sounds like hermy was right to have concerns about weeks... fair play fella.

As for fights where one guy looks like he's on top and surely going to pull away? We only have to look back to josh klit... even brook spence to a degree to know you can't do that. Second winds, fights changing on one punch etc.

Seems a shame that that clear result we were hoping for didn't happen.

Also interesting from reports that kov looked the boxer and Ward the banger... volume of jabs v power shots in terms of what you want to score

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Post by hogey on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 10:32 am

Disgusting refereeing, Ward should have been Disqualified not allowed to walk away with the belts. That's has left a very bad taste in my mouth.

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Post by AdamT on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 10:42 am

I agree Hogey. If not disqualified, at least a point or two taken off. Kovalev should of been allowed to recover from the fouls.

I've always backed Ward. He's an excellent fighter but he's dirty!

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 10:48 am

The better man won, get over it people.

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Post by melv500 on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 10:49 am

If the better man leads with his head up close and throws loads of illegal punches then yeah he did.

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Post by BoxingFan88 on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 11:12 am

Ward wasn't even half as dirty as he was in the first fight

It was a series of low blows that ended the fight

However the punch that marked the beginning of the end was a cracking right hand that was picture perfect in timing technique and accuracy

It was only going to be a matter of time in my opinion and had that fight gone a few more rounds ward would have got the tko

I was very impressed with both Ward and kovalev and that fight was much better than the first imo

Ward put on a performance worthy of a p4p king

Well done to him and he is #1 for me

Rigo also looked good in the short time I saw him

Not so sure about the shot after the bell it was very marginal and I'm pretty sure he would have koed him anyway sooner or later the skill gap was ridiculous and chucky telegraphed his intentions so badly

I'm also not sure about the ko If it was faked or not to try and get a dq?

Paulie had a sensational performance behind the mic I wish we could steal him from showtime one of the best in the game for sure

Rigo destroyed a top 5 guy and ward koed the best light heavyweight

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 11:13 am

Just watched it back again to make sure my eyes actually weren't lying to me.

How the feck has Ward got away with that? I had him again 3-4 rounds down at the start of the 8th. He had already landed 2-3 solid low blows with warning earlier on...then landed an absolute hail Mary ball bag uppercut to stop Kovalev and then he smashed him with a lead right followed by 3 unanswered low blows that were not borderline...they were big time low...the ref runs over and just stops it no count.

Absolutely horrific fight. Have to say, not a fan of Ward and has attitude at all after tonight. Really has left a dark smudge on the sport.

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