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Post by George Carlin Fri 6 Apr - 3:42

First topic message reminder :

Rumours are that I want to move to another company because my boss is an @rse.

And there's something to those rumours, I can assure you.
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Post by mikey_dragon Fri 1 Jun - 5:59

geoff999rugby wrote:Carbery to Munster for 3 years seems to have some legs

Why not Ulster? They’ve let go of a fly-half where as Munster are just stocked up with average ones.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Fri 1 Jun - 7:14

mikey_dragon wrote:
geoff999rugby wrote:Carbery to Munster for 3 years seems to have some legs

Why not Ulster? They’ve let go of a fly-half where as Munster are just stocked up with average ones.

I presume Carberry fancied playing behind the Munster pack more than the Ulster one. Will a Munster flyhalf head north?

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Post by Welly Fri 1 Jun - 7:17

Keatley is rumoured up north.

JJ also rumoured to france.

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Post by Fluxy Mon 4 Jun - 21:19

Andries Coetzee about to sign up for Toulon.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Mon 4 Jun - 23:00

Fluxy wrote:Andries Coetzee about to sign up for Toulon.

Ouch. The Lions being burgled this summer. Won't have a team soon.

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Post by Fluxy Fri 8 Jun - 20:45

Nizaam Carr heading back to the Ricoh next season.

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Post by Bathite Sat 9 Jun - 16:04

Massive signing. Him Hughes and Shields is a decent back row

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Post by yappysnap Sat 9 Jun - 17:44

Carr is quality, where was he at?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 9 Jun - 18:53

Stormers??

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 9 Jun - 22:47

Bathite wrote:Massive signing. Him Hughes and Shields is a decent back row

I imagine it'll be two of the three combining with Thomas Young. Need an openside with the way Wasps play.

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Post by RiscaGame Sun 10 Jun - 1:13

Anybody heard that Bath are trying to sign Josh McInally?

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sun 10 Jun - 22:46

I suspect that would depend on the future of Attwood. His loan deal is done so you'd assume he'd return to Bath and join Stooke, Charteris and Ewels which is a good combination in options.

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Post by SirBurger Mon 11 Jun - 4:39

RiscaGame wrote:Anybody heard that Bath are trying to sign Josh McInally?

They can seriously do one.

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Post by Hazel Sapling Tue 12 Jun - 21:14

https://www.planetrugby.com/news/northampton-snap-up-waratahs-wing/

Kellaway to Northampton.

Took 2 of the Waratahs back 3. Folau next?

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Post by formerly known as Sam Wed 13 Jun - 2:36

Saints do need a fullback with Foden gone. Doubt they've got funds for Folau.

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Post by propdavid_london Wed 13 Jun - 3:26

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/44456070

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Post by thebandwagonsociety Wed 13 Jun - 4:59

Leinster sign Joe Tomane from Montpelier(?)
Strange signing, I'd have thought there was enough depth in the centres and the potential to bring through some of the academy lads.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Wed 13 Jun - 7:13

thebandwagonsociety wrote:Leinster sign Joe Tomane from Montpelier(?)
Strange signing, I'd have thought there was enough depth in the centres and the potential to bring through some of the academy lads.

Experienced player that won't disappear on international duty. Can play centre and wing. Isa Nacewa covered a lot of positions for the entire season. Tomane has a good record with try scoring. I think a few teams would have liked to be able to add him to their squad.

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Post by Fluxy Wed 13 Jun - 8:04

Falcons have signed England U20 player Josh Basham from Irish

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Post by Welly Wed 13 Jun - 8:17

Is that confirmed?

I heard he's going to Durham but also heard he is doing uni full time.

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Post by Margin_Walker Wed 13 Jun - 8:32

Not confirmed on Basham.

More a case of the Rugby pass writer trying to put 2 and 2 together with no definitive inside knowledge. Good chance of being right, but wouldn't bet the house on it.

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Post by George Carlin Wed 13 Jun - 19:59

I see that Danny Wilson has turned down a coaching job with Wasps to join the Scotland team as the new forwards coach.
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Post by formerly known as Sam Wed 13 Jun - 21:32

George Carlin wrote:I see that Danny Wilson has turned down a coaching job with Wasps to join the Scotland team as the new forwards coach.

Yep and just as that is confirmed Wasps also confirm the signing of Brookes. That's a double smack in the mouth for Wasps fans then...

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Post by WELL-PAST-IT Wed 13 Jun - 22:17

formerly known as Sam wrote:
George Carlin wrote:I see that Danny Wilson has turned down a coaching job with Wasps to join the Scotland team as the new forwards coach.

Yep and just as that is confirmed Wasps also confirm the signing of Brookes. That's a double smack in the mouth for Wasps fans then...

Certainly is if he plays, or more to the point doesn't play like he has for Saints this last year or so. Having said that, the last few times I saw him play he did improve and looked to be getting back to his old self, ball in hand anyway.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 14 Jun - 0:35

Brookes was fantastic for Falcons (for around 50mins a game anyway). He was in great shape and seemed genuinely up for it, it's off that he's struggled at every other club. I don't know if he needs to be a big fish or perhaps managed in a particular way to get the best out of him.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Thu 14 Jun - 2:17

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Brookes was fantastic for Falcons (for around 50mins a game anyway). He was in great shape and seemed genuinely up for it, it's off that he's struggled at every other club. I don't know if he needs to be a big fish or perhaps managed in a particular way to get the best out of him.

I think the industrious pack let him get away with being a one in three player (takes part in one in every three phases). At a Saints team in need of players to stand up and be counted his work rate was found dead wanting and at Tigers when we had a decent pack his workrate was simply miles behind the likes of Cole and Castro. Plus his scrummaging has always been open to exploitation by technically strong looseheads. His ball carrying was always his big strength and Falcons were probably the best club at giving him a platform to use that.

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Post by Welly Thu 14 Jun - 5:04

Brookes biggest achievement whilst at Tigers was eating a 4500 calorie Breakfast.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Thu 14 Jun - 6:02

Welly wrote:Brookes biggest achievement whilst at Tigers was eating a 4500 calorie Breakfast.

In a record time. They changed the name of the challenge in his honour.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 14 Jun - 15:19

formerly known as Sam wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:Brookes was fantastic for Falcons (for around 50mins a game anyway). He was in great shape and seemed genuinely up for it, it's off that he's struggled at every other club. I don't know if he needs to be a big fish or perhaps managed in a particular way to get the best out of him.

I think the industrious pack let him get away with being a one in three player (takes part in one in every three phases). At a Saints team in need of players to stand up and be counted his work rate was found dead wanting and at Tigers when we had a decent pack his workrate was simply miles behind the likes of Cole and Castro. Plus his scrummaging has always been open to exploitation by technically strong looseheads. His ball carrying was always his big strength and Falcons were probably the best club at giving him a platform to use that.

His work rate was excellent at Falcons, as was his scrummaging. He was never such a huge ball carrier though, not with us anyway. A team like Falcons (especially at the time) cannot afford to carry a player and we didn't with Brookes. You don't work your way through the Saxons into the England 23 by being lazy and having a low work rate.

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Post by propdavid_london Fri 15 Jun - 2:43

Rowntree parts ways with Harlequins - very sad!
I presume that Adam Jones will probably step into that Forwards/Scrum Coaching role now.

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Post by George Carlin Mon 18 Jun - 22:58

Danny Wilson to Scotland as forwards coach has now been confirmed. 

Good piece of business by the SRU, that. He and Townsend get on very well indeed.
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Post by Fluxy Mon 18 Jun - 23:03

Julian Savea to Toulon confirmed.

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Post by LondonTiger Mon 18 Jun - 23:27

propdavid_london wrote:Rowntree parts ways with Harlequins - very sad!
I presume that Adam Jones will probably step into that Forwards/Scrum Coaching role now.

I guess Wasps have a vacancy now.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Tue 19 Jun - 1:54

LondonTiger wrote:
propdavid_london wrote:Rowntree parts ways with Harlequins - very sad!
I presume that Adam Jones will probably step into that Forwards/Scrum Coaching role now.

I guess Wasps have a vacancy now.

The commute from Hinckley to Coventry is pretty close.

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Post by LondonTiger Tue 19 Jun - 2:43

Yup

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Post by Fluxy Fri 22 Jun - 1:41

The Bears have signed George Smith on a six month contract for next season.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Fri 22 Jun - 5:52

Fluxy wrote:The Bears have signed George Smith on a six month contract for next season.

Mainly to cover injuries. Great experience to have around the place and someone to add to the leadership group.

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Post by Geordie Fri 22 Jun - 21:28

That's quality having someone like Smith around.

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Post by Fluxy Tue 26 Jun - 19:40

Bath lining up Vermeulen supposedly.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Tue 26 Jun - 22:01

Fluxy wrote:Bath lining up Vermeulen supposedly.

In more realistic news Brendan Macken considering offers from Bristol and Tigers.

Tigers also linked with Tongan prop currently playing in France.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Wed 27 Jun - 0:59

Johan Van Rensburg signs for Sale on three year deal. Tasty looking backline at Sale for next season with de Klerk, McGinty, Yarde, Van Rensburg, James, Solomona and O'Connor. Just need to sort out the tight five.

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Post by marty2086 Wed 27 Jun - 1:29

formerly known as Sam wrote:
In more realistic news Brendan Macken considering offers from Bristol and Tigers.

Baffles me that Ulster haven't made a move for him especially now given they will have maybe 3 options available to start the season at centre

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Post by George Carlin Wed 27 Jun - 1:56

formerly known as Sam wrote:
Fluxy wrote:Bath lining up Vermeulen supposedly.

In more realistic news Brendan Macken considering offers from Bristol and Tigers.

Tigers also linked with Tongan prop currently playing in France.
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Post by Welly Wed 27 Jun - 3:12

marty2086 wrote:
formerly known as Sam wrote:
In more realistic news Brendan Macken considering offers from Bristol and Tigers.

Baffles me that Ulster haven't made a move for him especially now given they will have maybe 3 options availabl to start the season at centre

Couldn't see him moving to Ireland anyway.

He's EQP now which doesn't mean much for his international chances, but it does mean he is worth even more as a player in the Premiership.

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Post by Guest Wed 27 Jun - 7:26

Contepomi to Leinster from Argentina XV/Jaguares as backs coach.

The Jaguares is essentially the Argentina national team and they didn’t look too good in the backs in the recent summer series. Any worries Leinster fans?

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Post by formerly known as Sam Wed 27 Jun - 18:58

The Oracle wrote:Contepomi to Leinster from Argentina XV/Jaguares as backs coach.

The Jaguares is essentially the Argentina national team and they didn’t look too good in the backs in the recent summer series. Any worries Leinster fans?

Same players different coaches isn't it, which I imagine is probably the issue.

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Post by Rugby Fan Wed 27 Jun - 20:08

Ashton to Sale

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/ashton-nearing-dramatic-premiership-return

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Post by thebandwagonsociety Wed 27 Jun - 21:21

The Oracle wrote:Contepomi to Leinster from Argentina XV/Jaguares as backs coach.

The Jaguares is essentially the Argentina national team and they didn’t look too good in the backs in the recent summer series. Any worries Leinster fans?

It has the look of Felipe looking to build back up his CV. He was talking about Lancaster in the interviews and there will be exposure to Schmidt, Farrell and Easterby through the national coaching ticket interactions.
Wouldn't be surprised if he ends up doing a bit of a post-grad while over here as well cos he got his medical qualification when he was playing here before.

He was a mercurial sort of player and hopefully gives expanded options to players in his approach (time will tell). Lancaster will continue with his calm in chaos routine and Cullen will try and keep the hardened edge in the pack. It will be an interesting dynamic (to think the Sexton rein effectively began when Felipe blew out his knee in that '09 semi final).

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Post by SecretFly Wed 27 Jun - 22:56

Contepomi might prove an addition to the coaching unit and then again, it might be the coaching position where he proves he's not good enough for this Leinster side, with all their vaunted ambitions to stay close to the top.  So it's a risk for Contepomi as Leinster have exacting standards (Mr O'Connor we're looking at you Wink )..and of course a risk for Leinster.

The coach I'll be interested in keeping tabs on is the coach that left, Girvan Dempsey.  Going by his coaching career to date, it might seem that he is one of the less personally ambitious coaches out there - forever the hidden man operating behind the coaching 'stars'.  And perhaps that's what has finally prompted him to move to Bath.  He might have realised that all his good work was potentially getting clouded out by the heaps of praise being put on Lancaster's shoulders for the rejuvenation of Leinster.

I'd probably simply think that Leinster needed a few years to suck up the new regimes both at Pro12/14 level and at European Levels.  They worked through their processes, worked out their coaches and players and steadily brought the ship back to full speed through the few years.  Lancaster has played his part but maybe his part is oversold a tad given that Leinster didn't exactly fall asunder in their 'down' period, even when he wasn't there.

So I'll be watching Girvan Dempsey to see how much of Leinster attack was him and how much was Lancaster.  It might prove painful watching if it's the former given we have Bath in the European pool Whistle

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Post by thebandwagonsociety Wed 27 Jun - 23:26

SecretFly wrote:Contepomi might prove an addition to the coaching unit and then again, it might be the coaching position where he proves he's not good enough for this Leinster side, with all their vaunted ambitions to stay close to the top.  So it's a risk for Contepomi as Leinster have exacting standards (Mr O'Connor we're looking at you Wink )..and of course a risk for Leinster.

The coach I'll be interested in keeping tabs on is the coach that left, Girvan Dempsey.  Going by his coaching career to date, it might seem that he is one of the less personally ambitious coaches out there - forever the hidden man operating behind the coaching 'stars'.  And perhaps that's what has finally prompted him to move to Bath.  He might have realised that all his good work was potentially getting clouded out by the heaps of praise being put on Lancaster's shoulders for the rejuvenation of Leinster.

I'd probably simply think that Leinster needed a few years to suck up the new regimes both at Pro12/14 level and at European Levels.  They worked through their processes, worked out their coaches and players and steadily brought the ship back to full speed through the few years.  Lancaster has played his part but maybe his part is oversold a tad given that Leinster didn't exactly fall asunder in their 'down' period, even when he wasn't there.

So I'll be watching Girvan Dempsey to see how much of Leinster attack was him and how much was Lancaster.  It might prove painful watching if it's the former given we have Bath in the European pool Whistle

It will give plenty of extra intrigue to the pool games between the two sides.

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